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12) JULY 24,1971: 71 CONVENTION:
THE CHURCH IS THE BODY OF YAHSHUA
by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley
Beverly Hills Hilton, Beverly Hills, California
reel recording received from Kenneth Haverly
audio cassette recording received from Beverly Allen and Lamar Greer
one 90 minute and one 60 minute audio cassette tapes
Catalog #: 71.0724
1996: pages 1 - 26:
transcribed by Shannon Brewster
proofread by Geraldine Rothstein, Susan Ameigh, and Michael Rothstein
proofread and approved by the International Public Relations Committee: 1996
1997: pages 19 - 34:
transcribed by Gerry Rothstein
first proofreading: Michael Rothstein
second proofreading: Susan Ameigh
third proofreading: Gerry Rothstein
proofread and approved by the International Public Relations Committee: 1997
Dr. Kinley spoke twice during the 1971 International Convention. His first lecture of this convention is dated July 23, 1971 and titled "Here I am," and is contained in the previous transcript book, 27 Dr. Kinley Transcripts. In it he states, "... And lo I am with you alway even unto the end of the age. Now what I want to say is: here I am. Believe it or not I'm here. And I want to let you know that I know what my purpose is. That's right I knew it back in the realm of eternity and declared the end from the beginning and I've been right along all the time. .... Now we're gonna get into some of these things tomorrow and we'll talk with you about it, and so that you can see for yourself whether it is true that I did receive a vision, tell you the truth about that thing. I just may decide to tell you the truth about that tomorrow. Been away and ____ ____ so you can understand. Now the real facts in the cases are these: I received Yahshua the Messiah who is in the Father. Now that's what I, now that's what I really received. And it was Him in me that's revealing that to you. .... But I wanna let you know, I died once, hanging out there on the cross. Now it's my turn. .... We'll talk to you more about this thing tomorrow."
This transcript is of the next day's class, July 24, 1971.
Scripture reading: 1 John 4
Moderator: Those of you who are what might be called regular members of the school can well appreciate that when I say it gives me pleasure to introduce the founder of our school, you know whereof I speak. There are a number of us who are conscious that within that physical body is the spirit that Yahweh has sent into this world, in this age, to edify those of his choice. And it does indeed, give me great pleasure to introduce the founder of our school, Dr. Henry C. Kinley.
Student Body: APPLAUDS
Dr. Kinley: Thank you ever so much. I'm always happy and glad to testify in the behalf of our brethren and Savior, Yahshua the Messiah. Now I don't mean to stand up here and say that because that Yahweh is in me, that He's not in you, I don't mean to say that, because Yahweh is made manifest in all of us. Now there's some things that I wanna call your attention to in particular. And we have kinda routined down specifically for this special meeting. Now we're gonna call it special, and we're going to ask for, as has already been stated, your undivided attention, and you try to pay attention. Now, one of the reasons why that we have been so specific in making those statements is because there are so many erroneous doctrines out in the world, until the people actually, really do not know which way to go or what to do, and who's right and who's wrong. And you must always remember that you have an adversary: the devil, and he's trying to play every note or every tune that he can to lure you in to some of his, his church. Now, it seems to be a pretty tough thing to stand up here and say that all the churches is wrong, and I don't think anybody oughta do that, unless they have or possess the ability to prove it.
Now, first of all, what is the church? Now, here in Colossians, I'm not gonna ask you to read all of these scriptures, I'll tell you which ones to read. They say that the church or the congregation or assembly is the body of Yahshua the Messiah. Now, do you understand that? Well now, somebody might get up and read that out of the Bible and still miss the boat. Now you, all of you that have the spirit in you, you are the body of the Messiah. Now we're gonna go right back and have repeated what we just had Dr. Traynham to read as a scripture lesson. I do want you to get some identification out of this, so that you will understand, better understand, then I will comment on it. Would you mind please, the microphone and read the first few verses of the fourth epistle of John. And you pay strict attention to what is said here.
Reader: Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of Yahweh:
Dr. Kinley: Now just a minute. It says beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirit whether they are of Yahweh. Now, bear this in mind: John is writing to those that possess the spirit. Now if you don't possess it, you don't have nothing to try it with. I'm trying to make this thing clear to you as possible, because a lot of 'em will sit back and read that and say that we, that we are the church or we are the body of, of, of Christ and, and all so, and make statements like that and deceive and fool the people. But if you don't have the Holy Spirit, you're incapable of judgement because you must have the judge in you in order to be the judge. Now does that make it clear? Alright now. It said don't believe every spirit, but try the spirit. Now if you're gonna try it, you must have it. Now, if you have it, then you're capable of discerning which spirit it is speaking, and then in that way you won't be led astray. Now, if you pay strict attention, you'll find some conviction down here. Alright, read.
Reader: Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of Yahweh:
Dr. Kinley: Now, try 'em, whether they are of Yahweh. Now, you have in your King James Version of the Bible, 'whether they are of God.' Now God is a title. And God being a title and not a name. And I'll also, also mention here that Lord is a title also, and that is not a name. Alright. Read on.
Reader: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Dr. Kinley: Now, listen here. Now, a lot of people wanna go back and say that he's talking about when Yahshua the Messiah come in the world. Now that's not what John is talking about. He's talking about the thing as it is since the day of Pentecost, not before, when He was walking around here on the face of the earth in a physical body. Alright, read.
Reader: Hereby know ye the spirit of Yahweh:
Dr. Kinley: Now wait just a minute. Now this is what they go by. And hereby know ye the spirit, now right by this. Repeat.
Reader: Hereby know ye the spirit of Yahweh:
Dr. Kinley: Now hereby know ye the spirit of Yahweh. Now right by this. Alright, read.
Reader: Every spirit that confesseth that Yahshua the Messiah is come
Dr. Kinley: Now every spirit that testifies that Yahshua will soon be home.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: Now you see the difference?
Student Body: Yes.
Dr. Kinley: Now everybody is looking for Jesus or looking for Yahshua the Messiah. Now every spirit that testifies that it is come, which is present tense, is of Yahweh. Now is that clear? Everywhere you go the people are looking for Him to come, not recognizing the fact that He has come, come already. And everyone of them that's saying that He is coming, that's satanic. You get that? Now I didn't say that, the apostle John said it. Alright, read on.
Reader: And every spirit that confesseth, confesseth not that Yahshua the Messiah is come in the flesh is not of Yahweh:
Dr. Kinley: Every spirit that testifies not that Yahshua is come in the flesh, it is not of Yahweh. Now is that clear to you? Now you do some thinking about that. Alright, read on.
Reader: and this is that spirit of anti-messiah,
Dr. Kinley: Now this is that spirit of anti-messiah. Now that's the spirit of your adversary, and it is not of Yahweh. Read a little further.
Reader: whereof ye have heard that it should come;
Dr. Kinley: Now John is saying, 'whereof you have heard that it should come.' Read.
Reader: and even now already
Dr. Kinley: And even now, at that time back there, and if you look at the chronology at the top of the page, you will find when he wrote the epistle, and it was already in the world at that time. You see that now? Alright.
Reader: and even now already is it in the world.
Dr. Kinley: And even now is it already in the world. Read on.
Reader: Ye are of Yahweh,
Dr. Kinley: Ye are of Yahweh,
Reader: little children,
Dr. Kinley: little children.
Reader: and have overcome it:
Dr. Kinley: And have overcome it.
Reader: because greater is he that is in you,
Dr. Kinley: That, for greater is He that is in you.
Reader: than that which is in the world.
Dr. Kinley: Than that which is in the world. That will do with that. Now I want read, over there in John, I gave you the verse in the same epistle.
Reader: 1 John the third chapter, first and second verses.
Dr. Kinley: Now you listen close at this. Read.
Reader: Behold, what manner of love
Dr. Kinley: Behold, what manner of love
Reader: the Father hath bestowed upon us,
Dr. Kinley: the Father hath bestowed upon us,
Reader: that we should be called the sons of Yahweh:
Dr. Kinley: That we should be called... Now I want you to let this soak in, because it will help you. That we should be called saints.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: That we should be called Christians.
Student Body: No sir.
Dr. Kinley: That we should be called Roman Catholics.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: That we should be called Protestants.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: Maybe you didn't read it right Doc, try it again.
Reader: Behold, what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon us,
Dr. Kinley: Um hum.
Reader: that we should be called the sons of Yahweh:
Dr. Kinley: That we should be called the sons of Yahweh. Now I wanna tell you why I had that read that way. It's because... Now when Yahshua the Messiah, who Yahweh acknowledged to be His Son, now you are a son of Yahweh just now as He was then. Now if you let that soak, it'll help you. Then, if you be a son of Yahweh, then Yahweh is in you, and you in Him, and Yahshua the Messiah in you. Now do you follow what I'm talking about? Now you just simply have not been taught that out there in the world. You have been taught that Jesus is coming. Is, is that right? Now, since we've got the true names now, somebody will be saying Yahshua is coming. But now, I wanna make this real good and clear to you, so you don't make a mistake. Now that makes me have to go to the 14th chapter of Saint John, which is the same man writing, and the 26th verse. I think about the 26th verse. And I want you to pay attention to every, everything I call attention to, and then, that, and that only is the only way that you can be helped. Alright, read.
Reader: But the comforter,
Dr. Kinley: But the comforter.
Reader: which is the Holy Spirit,
Dr. Kinley: Which is the Holy Spirit.
Reader: whom the Father will send in my name,
Dr. Kinley: Now listen. Whom the father will send in my name. Did you get that? So now that's why we say it's Yahshua in you, because you have received the Holy Spirit, whom Yahweh has sent in the name of Yahshua. I don't mean gonna send, I mean already sent. Read on.
Reader: shall teach you all things,
Dr. Kinley: Shall teach you some things.
Student Body: No. All.
Dr. Kinley: A few things.
Student Body: No, sir.
Dr. Kinley: Shall teach you all things. Read.
Reader: and bring all things to your remembrance,
Dr. Kinley: and bring all things, not just some things. From the time that He chose his disciples, and for three and half years as He taught, He knew that they were not gonna remember everything. He knew that. So therefore He said when the comforter is come. First above there He said, 'I will not leave you comfortless.' And now He's telling the comforter will come, whom the Father will send in My name. And when He is come, then what?
Reader: he shall teach you all things.
Dr. Kinley: Now we're telling you this: my earthly name is Henry Clifford Kinley. Is that clear to you? Just like Moses' name, given to him and any of the rest of 'em, John and everybody else: those are earthly names. Now it doesn't say anything at all about Moses teaching anybody. It doesn't say anything about the apostles teaching anybody. But now the comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, He will teach you all things, not some. Right?
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Is that plain to you? Now it behooves you then, whoever is in the book, for you to pay strict attention and recognize the fact that no man has the ability to teach you the purpose of Yahweh, he just don't have it. His mental faculties and his make up is inadequate without the Holy Spirit. And I said that to let you know that Yahshua the Messiah, whom the, Yahweh has sent in His name, or the comforter. Now that's who the teacher is around here; it is not Henry Clifford Kinley, cause I don't know nothing to teach you and neither does anybody else. Now that necessitates me to have the comforter, and then for me to keep my big mouth shut and for you to keep your big mouth shut and let the comforter to do the teaching. Now is it clear? Now that will save a whole lot of our self exaltation. You see through what I'm talking about? Alright. Read.
Reader: and bring all things to your remembrance
Dr. Kinley: And said He would bring all things to your remembrance. Is that right?
Reader: whatsoever I have said unto you.
Dr. Kinley: Whatsoever I have said unto you. Now let me ask you a question. Do you know the reason why He said that? That's something to think about. Now why did He say that? Well, I'm gonna tell you why He said it. Do you remember that when He come to His disciples, He told them that, John and the rest of 'em, that He had come to fulfil. Now since He come to fulfill, going through three and a half years that He was along with 'em, with them fulfilling what was written in the Law and in the Prophets. He knew that they were incapable of retaining in them what was written in the Law and in the Prophecy. Now follow what I mean. Now when He was along with Moses, everything He said to Moses, Moses didn't remember. And those teachers that were along with those tribes, they didn't remember everything. I'll give you an instance. They said to him, said to Moses, said, 'now if in the event that we have touched a dead man during the time of the passover, 'said, 'now, can we eat the passover?' You know what Moses said? Said, 'I don't know, I'll have to ask Him.' So he went to Joshua, in your book, and asked Him. And He told him, 'no, you don't eat the passover until 30 days hence.' You see what I mean? And other things that Moses missed, but he had Him right along with him. I'll give you another instance so that you can see that. If you look down through the 1st chapter of Genesis about the creation of heaven and earth. Moses saw that the second time that he was in the mountain. Now the first time, I should tell you this way: now the first time he was in the mountain, Yahshua told him to tell the children of Israel to clean up themselves and gather up around the mountain; and not a beast nor a man or nothing was to touch that mountain, Mount Sinai, and that He would speak to them from the mountain. Well, Moses, he did that. And then He told Moses to come up in the mountain and He would give him tables of stone. Now I don't have time to go through everything, but I'm trying to show you now why Yahshua the Messiah said what he just, what he just read, to his disciples. Alright now, while Moses was up in the mountain, in the first chapter of Genesis, in verse 27, Moses said that, think you better read.
Reader: So Elohim created man in his image,
Dr. Kinley: So Elohim created man. Now up above that it says that, let us make man in our own likeness and in our image. Right? And so now he's saying, so what?
Reader: So Elohim created man in his image,
Dr. Kinley: And Elohim created man in His image.
Reader: in the image of Elohim created he him;
Dr. Kinley: in the image of Elohim created he him;
Reader: male and female created
Dr. Kinley: male and female
Reader: created he him
Dr. Kinley: Created He him. Now look, it didn't say a thing about what He created him out of. You see that? Not a thing. Nothing. So now the third time when he went up in the mountain to take up where he left off at. What'd He say then doc? He's bringing it back to his remembrance now.
Reader: Genesis 2nd chapter, 4th verse, Holy Name Version. And Yahweh Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
Dr. Kinley: That's right.
Reader: and man became a living soul.
Dr. Kinley: Now you see that? Now Moses, he didn't put that down in the 6 days right there. The second time that he went in the mountain, he didn't say it. But He's calling it to his remembrance now, that He did create him from the dust of the earth. Now Moses put that in there, calling it back to his remembrance what he saw in the vision. So that is why, so that is why that Yahshua the Messiah, after they had followed him through seeing Him fulfill what was in the Law and what was in the prophecy. He knew that they wasn't gonna remember all of it. So He telling 'em now that all things when the comforter is come, which is me, and I'll be right with you and I'll call your attention to these things and I'll do the preaching through you. Now is that clear? That had to be fulfilled too. A lot of things that they didn't understand, they actually they didn't get the understanding of it until after He come in the Holy Spirit. They didn't understand a lot of things that He was doing, and asked Him about it. You follow me now? Now that's why it's so necessary for you to have the Holy Spirit. Do you see what I mean? Do you understand? Now I'm trying my best to make things clear to you what's going on in this school. Now that's the best I can do is to clarify everything. That's our goal, so that you will not make so many blunders and errors, and so you will be able to identify the anti-messiah and the false prophets and the false teachers. No flesh has any right to boast in His sight. Nobody. Thank you Dr. Harris for that at the present time.
Now we want to call attention to other things that we have put down here. Now one, some of 'em we didn't put 'em down on this paper. So I'm gonna call attention to it and tell you what was said, and if you don't think it was said, then I'm gonna read that to you of their, their books. Now my job is showing up the devil. Now that's what my job is, and I told you that that was what I was sent in the world for. So I'm gonna make that clear to you.
Now Jehovah's Witnesses is wrong. And even if they had said they was Yahweh's Witnesses, they're still wrong. That's right. Doesn't make any difference whether they said they was Yahweh's Witnesses or Jehovah's Witnesses, they're still wrong. Now here's why, here's how they're wrong: first, they don't believe in a vision. And everybody that was a witness, they had to see Yahweh Elohim in a vision, just like Moses looked right at Yahweh Elohim create Adam in a vision. All of the prophets, they saw a vision, every last one of 'em, and if they had not seen one, they could not say that they were His witnesses. Now Isaiah 43:12, in your book, Yahweh said, you better read it.
Reader: Isaiah 43:12. I have declared, and have saved, and I have showed, when there was no strange El among you: therefore ye are my witnesses,
Dr. Kinley: Um hum
Reader: saith Yahweh,
Dr. Kinley: Um hum.
Reader: that I am El.
Dr. Kinley: Um hum. Now this is Isaiah, in the book of Isaiah, but this is not Isaiah talking, it is Elohim through Isaiah, Yahweh Elohim through Isaiah. Now nobody that had ever, that hadn't seen no vision or nothing had been revealed to 'em through a vision, he could not be Yahweh's witness. That's a matter of impossibility. Even if you went to court, if you got up there and they asked you to get up on the witness stand, one of the first things they're gonna ask you what your name is and did you see whatever it was that you're in court for. And if you say, 'no I didn't see anything,' you're, you're, you're not a credited witness. They'd chase you from the court. Now if man has got that much sense, we oughta have better sense than to think that these people going around calling theirselves Jehovah's Witnesses or Yahweh's Witnesses... It had to be revealed back there in the Law and in the Prophecy. Now I did not say over in what you call the New Testament. Now He has two witnesses. Now read that Dr. Harris.
Reader: Revelations 11th chapter and the 3rd verse. And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophecy a thousand two hundred and three score days (1260), clothed in sackcloth.
Dr. Kinley: My two witnesses. You follow? Well now, what are His two witnesses? Read.
Reader: These are the two olive leaves, trees,
Dr. Kinley: That's right.
Reader: and the two candlesticks standing before the Elohim of the earth.
Dr. Kinley: Now you see what it is? Now that's why we tell you to go to the law and go to the testimony because everything that Moses said in the law had to be confirmed by the prophets. Clear? To both the law and the prophets, there's just two witnesses, and that was expounded what was revealed to him, to them by the Holy Spirit, to the prophets what Yahweh revealed to them. Now if they don't believe in a vision, and they don't think anybody had one, more particular in these last days, there's no possibility of them being any kinda of a witnesses for that matter, do you follow? Now on top of all that, they say that the spirit is not any, in any man. I don't know whether you know that or not. You're out of that Dr. Dennis, do they say that?
Dennis Droulard: Yes sir.
Dr. Kinley: But they say it's a vital force upon him, that the Holy Spirit is not in any man, but it is a vital force upon him. Now what it's just done was called Yahweh a liar. Now you can't be a witness and a liar all at the same time. Now I'm gonna prove to you that Yahweh did say that He was going to put His spirit within the man. Ezekiel 36 and 25.
Reader: Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you
Dr. Kinley: Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you. Now hold it right there while you got that. And just to show you how the devil sneaks around and fools folks. Now the Methodists, they use this as a mode of baptism and they put a collar around your neck, and a little sprinkling of water and so also don't the Roman Catholics. They do. But now you try reading that again.
Reader: Then will I sprinkle
Dr. Kinley: Now wait a minute. Who said that?
Reader: Then will I
Dr. Kinley: Now Yahweh's gonna do this. Now then, here they are doing what Yahweh said He was gonna do. Are you following? Alright.
Reader: Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean
Dr. Kinley: Ye shall be clean:
Reader: from all your filthiness
Dr. Kinley: From all your filthiness.
Reader: and from all your idols,
Dr. Kinley: And from all your idols.
Reader: will I cleanse you.
Dr. Kinley: Will cleanse you.
Reader: a new heart also
Dr. Kinley: A new heart also.
Reader: will I give you
Dr. Kinley: will I give you,
Reader: and a new spirit
Dr. Kinley: And a new spirit.
Reader: will I put within you.
Dr. Kinley: Now wait a minute, Doc. You oughta read that right. Here you're a medical doctor and you can't read it as a vital force upon somebody. Are you following? Yahweh said He was gonna put it within you. He said a new heart. And He would wash or sprinkle you with clean water and wash you from all your idols. Now remember, these things have to be fulfilled because this a prophecy. So when Yahshua the Messiah was the Word made flesh, in order to fulfill that, you gotta take the basin and wash the disciples feet. And Moses back in the law now, he had to take Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu to the door of the tabernacle and wash them in the laver and anoint them with oil. Now what Yahshua the Messiah is doing, He's fulfilling these things, because what He said He was gonna do, and they twisted that all up. Once all the churches did this. He said that He come to fulfil. They said, 'no, you're wrong.' They don't even know that, that they're calling Him a liar, because they said He come to institute. Now all these things were instituted was in two places, let me put it that way. The end was declared from the beginning, and with Israel who had, now listen, I didn't say Jew or Gentile, never said a thing about it. They're the ones that had the law contained in the ordinances and with diverse washings and so forth and so on, given from Mount Sinai to the Jew and to the Jew only. Now He's gonna come and fulfill that, 'no, ' they say He's instituting. The world has this book turned upside down and all messed up every kinda way. And they have called Yahweh a liar, they have called Yahshua the Messiah a liar. And Yahshua the Messiah called the devil a liar and they're trying to twist it around and make Yahweh and Yahshua to be the devil or the liar by refuting and disputing what He said. Alright, read this other verses that I gave you on the paper. Now wait a minute, read, better read that over again, somebody might go away and not see that.
Reader: A new heart also will I give you,
Dr. Kinley: Now when Moses broke that first tables of stone that was supposed to be laid in the ark, there wasn't no ark, and Yahweh knew what he was gonna do. Now somebody says, 'well, Moses was the first one to break the commandments.' I beg your pardon, he broke the tables of stone and I'll have you know that they had commandments written and that was the first book of Moses, not Genesis, before Moses went up in the mount, because when Yahweh spoke those commandments from the mountain, Moses recorded 'em. And then he took, (I'll just cut this up short) then Moses took the blood of sacrificial animals (now listen at what I'm saying) and he sprinkled the book and also the people and said, 'this is the covenant which Yahweh thy Elohim has enjoined unto you.' Now he did that before he went up in the mountain. Then after he went up in the mountain, before he got back down to break up the tables of stone, they done builded the golden calf down there, which they were told not to do. Now then when Moses broke that tables of stone, then he had to go down and hew out some stones hisself, which symbolizing you taking your old stony heart and he's gonna give you a heart of flesh, that's what this prophet is talking about. Now let me say this, ____ real ____, you know what it's all about or you understand what it's really all about, when Moses come down out of that mountain and broke those tables of stone, (I'm cutting this up short) he gave them instructions how to build the tabernacle. They started on the ark of the covenant first. So when he took them tables of stone back up there the last or the third time, when he came back down he had somewhere to put 'em. Now somebody that didn't believe or don't think you know what you're talking about, that tabernacle is symbolical of your body. Now we have a medical doctor setting right here in our midst that will confirm what I am saying. When a child is conceived in the womb, the head is formed first. Now I mean by that that the ark of the covenant is formed first. So that you'll have some place to lay and that is symbolical of your brain that Yahweh is gonna put His spirit in you, a new heart, a heart of flesh. Are you all following me?
Student Body: Yes.
Dr. Kinley: Alright. Read it again Doc and see if that's the way it reads.
Reader: A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you.
Dr. Kinley: That's right. And a new spirit will I put within you and here's what I was telling you. Now if you can see Moses laying them second tables of stone in the ark of the covenant, you wouldn't be running around here talking a whole lotta fool talk about, did he put it within you. See how you get tricked when you don't know what it's all about. Now those folks out there selling books, and they swear about all that's holy, and you couldn't tell a one nothing to save your life, that they're right and that they are Jehovah's Witnesses. Well, they may be Jehovah's Witnesses, but Jehovah is really not His name, and neither is Allah. Are you following? His name is Yahweh. Now do you see where He said He was gonna put it within. Now let's see whether He done it or not. 2nd chapter of Acts of Apostles and let's cut this up short and have to move fast.
Reader: And when the day of Pentecost was fully come,
Dr. Kinley: But now when the day of Pentecost was fully come.
Reader: While they were all with one accord in one place.
Dr. Kinley: That's right.
Reader: Suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and filled all the house where they were sitting.
Dr. Kinley: Now a lotta people don't even know why that was.
Dr. Kinley: You won't go back to the law and you won't go to the prophecy. And you think you're reading over in the New Testament and that's not so, cause the New Testament is not written with pen and ink but it's written in the heart and the mind. And all these old erroneous doctrines that are spread throughout the world is as wrong as they can be, but you're gonna have to have (listen at this) you're going to have to have Yahweh Elohim or in other words you're gonna have to have Yahshua the Messiah in a body to do some teaching, I didn't say me. You follow what I, what I say to you cause I'm fully aware and conscious of what I am saying. Now if you are a son, not a saint, not a Christian, not a Baptist, not a Methodist, not a Roman Catholic, none of that, but if you are a son of Yahweh as Yahshua the Messiah said that He was, and He was acknowledged at the River of Jordan when He said and John's baptizing, 'this is My beloved son.' Now that's what you're gonna have to have in you now. Now He went to prepare a place for you. Now somebody thought that, 'well, He's gone on into heaven now, and He's gonna prepare a place for us and after a while He's gonna come back and escort us there to our apartment because He said in My Father's house is many mansions.' Well, He was His Father's house and in it was many mansions. I just got through telling you we are all the family of Yahweh, and we are the Son as He was then, and what He said to 'em, said, 'if I go, I'll come again and receive you unto myself.' Now listen at this statement, 'where I am,' where He was standing right there then in the flesh, He was a Son of Yahweh Elohim. Now you, you following that? Now where He was at that time is where you're supposed to be now, and that's the place that He prepared for you. You wanna test the authenticity of that? Now you, you do? Turn over there in Matthew and I'll show you what's, whether, whether that's so or not. Where He's dividing the sheep from the goats, and let's see what happens. See if He's gone off somewhere to fix up something up above the sun, moon, and stars. If that's what He meant. Matthew 25, I think it's 34 or 35 or something like that, where He's dividing the sheep from the goats.
Reader: When the Son of man shall come in his glory,
Dr. Kinley: When the Son of Man shall come in His glory.
Reader: and all his holy angels with him,
Dr. Kinley: And all of His holy angels with Him.
Reader: then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Dr. Kinley: Then shall He set upon the throne of His glory.
Reader: And before him shall be gathered all nations;
Dr Kinley: And before Him shall be gathered the jews.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: Now how about that. All nations. Alright, read.
Reader: and he shall separate them one from another,
Dr. Kinley: Now he shall separate them one for, from another.
Reader: as a shepherd divideth his sheep
Dr. Kinley: As a shepherd divideth his sheep.
Reader: from the goats:
Dr. Kinley: From the goats.
Reader: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand,
Dr. Kinley: Now He shall set the sheep on His right hand.
Reader: but the goats on the left.
Dr. Kinley: But the goats on the left.
Reader: Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand,
Dr. Kinley: Then shall the King say unto them.
Reader: on his right hand,
Dr. Kinley: On His right hand.
Reader: Come, ye blessed of my Father,
Dr. Kinley: Come, ye blessed of My Father.
Reader: inherit the kingdom
Dr. Kinley: In... Now wait a minute, just a minute now, let's get this thing easy. Inherit the kingdom, come ye blessed of my father and inherit the kingdom which Jesus went to prepare.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: Well now, I wanna find out about it.
Reader: and inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Dr. Kinley: Now you see that? It was prepared way back yonder. What would He look like creating a man with a belly and an appetite and have to be fed and then he got to go out there and plant some seed in the ground and grow up some trees in the Garden of Eden before he had anything to eat. Do you see, do you understand what I'm talking about? What would a mother look like having a child and she ain't got nothing for him to eat? You see what I'm talking about? You see how stupid we can get because we don't know the purpose. Now I want to put this in there. If you'll notice that He said there, read that over again Doc.
Reader: Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Dr. Kinley: from the foundation of the earth. Well now, what's He going to prepare, that's already been prepared, so He wasn't going away to prepare one, it's already prepared. He's going to prepare a place for you, and the place that He's prepared for you is for you to be where He was when He said that. Somebody said, 'Well, where's that?' That when you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, stand in the Holy Place, whoso readeth, let him understand. And the most of us don't even know where that was, we didn't know that was even in the Book, cause we don't know nothing about the pattern, nobody told us nothing about it. We got a long ways off from what I intend to.., but I'm just trying to show you how stupid. Then, while we're on that, but since we were talking about Jehovah Witnesses. let me show you this. Now all around they got what they call Kingdom Hall that they have builded up, and they're premillenium. Now they look for Yahshua the Messiah to come down through the sky and set up a kingdom on this earth, not realizing, not understanding that He sent His disciples out and told them to tell the people that the kingdom of heaven is nigh. Well now, it was 2000, almost 2000 years off, it wouldn't be very close to you, wouldn't you think? Now what is the Kingdom of God, or the Kingdom of Yahweh? What is it? Romans 14:17.
Reader: For the kingdom of Yahweh is not meats and drinks
Dr. Kinley: Now, for the kingdom of Yahweh, now let's get this straight. Now I, I don't, I don't have time to do a whole lot reading cause I have a lot of ground to cover here but I'm trying to point it out to you so that you can see. Now the first covenant with Israel stood only in meats and drinks and diverse washings and carnal ordinances imposed on the Jew or on them until the time of the reformation. And Yahshua the Messiah had to come to fulfil all of those carnal ordinances and footwashing, water baptism, and all those carnal.., that was given to them, and Yahweh, they called Him a liar on that. He said He was not gonna make another covenant, Jeremiah 31:31, like He did in the days when He took Israel by the hand and led them out into the wilderness, led them out of Egypt. He said He wasn't gonna do it. Now then, some of these stupid preachers say, 'well, water baptism was brought over from the other age, foot washing was brought over from the other age, Lord's supper was brought over from the other age.' Now this is what Yahshua the Messiah said about it. He said, 'verily, verily I say unto you that one jot or one tittle of the law,' it means that's a jot and a tittle, 'shall not pass until they all be fulfilled.' And when He had fulfilled the law it was nailed out there on the cross. We are not dealing with the flesh no more. We're dealing with the spirit, not the flesh. Now the kingdom, it's a spiritual kingdom. And let me get this over to you too cause.., I, I hope you get a chance to read. Now in the kingdom of Yahweh. Now Dr. Harris read it awhile ago (which we just can't set up here and continue to repeat these things over and over) that when He would come with His mighty angels. Now these mighty angels are in that kingdom prepared for you before the foundation of the world. They're in there. Somebody might say, 'well now look, I don't believe that, what you just read it. Then if you went into the sanctuary (somebody run up there right quick), if you went into the sanctuary, you would find Michael and (better look at the big one over there, they can't see that too well.) Now that's the interior of the tabernacle or the sanctuary. And if you notice on the veils and all around the walls, there are angels in it. Now that is a figure of heaven. Now all you have to do to find out what's there is to look in the sanctuary in heaven. Alright, read.
Reader: For the kingdom is not meats
Dr. Kinley: Now it's not meats.
Reader: and drinks
Dr. Kinley: And drink.
Reader: but righteousness, peace
Dr. Kinley: But it is, now this is what it is. It is righteousness
Reader: and peace,
Dr. Kinley: And peace.
Reader: and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Dr. Kinley: And joy in the Holy Spirit. Now that's what the kingdom of Yahweh is and that's what He sent His disciples out to tell the people that it was at hand. And the other covenant had to be moved out of the way before the.., or a New Covenant could come of effect or the Holy Spirit within you. Do you understand now? Now that's clean, that's clear, that anybody that understands what it's all about. Now if you would go into Solomon's Temple you would find that the interior of that temple had angelic figures on it and it had pomegranate trees and it was gold, overlaid with gold and pressed into those figures which signified the new earth state. Now these people running around talking about the kingdom and Yahshua the Messiah coming back setting up a kingdom on the earth; it's foolish, nothing else but foolishness. It's already set up and it is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. And Yahshua the Messiah taken off the flesh, come back in the spirit in the Father's name and is in you, the tabernacle, just like He dwelled in that tabernacle back with Israel. That's why the apostle said, 'don't you know,' the sixth chapter of 1 Corinthians, 'don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit? of which temple you are, for you are bought with a price' (get this straight) 'and you are not your own.' People looking at one another, they think they got a body, they don't have no body. The body belongs to Him, and He's just manifesting through you, that's all; and not only you, the earth is the, Yahweh and the fullness thereof, and everything in His temple says glory to the Father, but with a carnal mind you can't see off of the end of your nose. And the devil is doing nothing else but tricking you and fooling you. Alright. Now go back and get those scriptures that I had in the beginning.
Reader: 14th chapter of Revelations
Dr. Kinley: 14th. Now here's something else Jehovah's Witnesses teach. They say that there is a 144000 of the earth class going to heaven and the rest of 'em be bound to hell on earth. Now that's not so. Now here's where they get it at. Read.
Reader: And I looked, and lo a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
Dr. Kinley: And I looked and lo a lamb stood on mount Sion.
Reader: and with him
Dr. Kinley: And with him.
Reader: a hundred, forty and four thousand (144,000),
Dr. Kinley: With Him a hundred and forty and four thousand (144,000).
Reader: having his name and his Father's name
Dr. Kinley: Having His name and their Father's name.
Reader: written in their
Dr. Kinley: Hold it. Now His name and His Father's name is not Jehovah, not Jehovah God as they say. Having it written in their forehead. Now let me give you a little symbolical illustration of that. I'll do it real quick. The high priest when he put on the miter or the bonnet, it had two strings that went around and tied in the back, and it had this insignia on it: 'Holiness unto Yahweh.' Now that's what it had on, signified that His name would be in their foreheads. Alright, read.
Reader: having his name
Dr. Kinley: Having His name.
Reader: and his father's name
Dr. Kinley: And His Father's name.
Reader: written in their foreheads.
Dr. Kinley: Written in their foreheads.
Reader: And I heard a voice from heaven
Dr. Kinley: And I heard a voice from heaven.
Reader: as a voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder, and I heard the voice of harpers, harping with their harps:
Dr. Kinley: That's right. Now get in the 7th chapter where he heard the number.
Reader: 7th chapter and the 4th verse.
Dr. Kinley: 7th chapter, 4th verse.
Reader: of Revelations
Dr. Kinley: Of Revelations.
Reader: And I heard the number of them which were sealed:
Dr. Kinley: I heard the number of them which were sealed.
Dr. Kinley: And there were sealed
Dr. Harris: a hundred and forty and four thousand (144,000)
Dr. Kinley: a hundred and forty four thousand (144,000)
Dr. Harris: of all the tribes
Dr. Kinley: of all the tribes
Dr. Harris: of the children of Israel.
Dr.Kinley: Of the children of Israel. Now somebody go to the chart. Now, when the children of Israel come out of the land of Egypt, see, he's pointing to it, went through the Red Sea, and went in the Wilderness of Sinai, they're, they're pointing every which a way, cause that's what these charts was drawn for. Yahweh ordered me to draw these charts and I have de.., definitely decided I will not make no more charts and if you can't get it from here, shame on you.
Student Body: Alright.
Dr. Kinley: Now, when Israel come up out of Egypt, went through the Red Sea, went in the Wilderness of Sinai, and then stayed there 40 years, one day for a year, and all of 'em died in there except Eleazar, I mean that come out of Egypt, Eleazar, Phineas, and Caleb. No, I didn't say that. I didn't say Joshua. No indeed, I did not say that. Now the reason why I didn't say that, He wasn't born down in Egypt. Yahweh just took on that body down there in Egypt, He's the son of Nun. No, 'What are you talking about?' None of the twelve tribes of Israel or the twelve sons of Jacob. And He's still the son of none after the flesh. Alright. Now, how many, Doc, according to Numbers, how many was it that come out a there and all of 'em died in the Wilderness with him? He's including Moses and Aaron, except Phineas or finish.
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: You got that? Eleazar, that's Aaron's son, and Phineas. Got Phineas and Eleazar and Caleb. Now those three men had to come out of there and make it to Canaan's Land. Now there was a reason for that: in the mouth of two (2) or three (3) witnesses every word has got to be established. And you got Yahweh, Elohim, and Yahshua the Messiah. Don't you have that? Then you got to have that same thing going into Canaan's Land that come up out of Egypt. Alright, but how many was there, Doc?
Dr. Harris: 603,550 souls.
Dr. Kinley: Where do you find that at?
Dr. Harris: over in
Dr. Kinley: Now somebody's gonna run one of these tapes.
Dr. Harris: Numbers 1:49.
Dr. Kinley: Numbers 1:49. How many?
Dr. Harris: 603,550
Dr. Kinley: 603,500 and what?
Dr. Harris: 50
Dr. Kinley: 50. Now how did it, how did he get the count? Moses told them in the 25th chapter of Exodus, that each one of 'em from 20 years old bring an offering to build that tabernacle out of the substance which they brought up out of Egypt. And as they brought it they were numbered. Right?
Student Body: That's right.
Dr. Kinley: You got a record of it there, haven't you? But those that were born in the Wilderness and went across the River of Jordan to fight and to.., the conquest of Canaan of able bodied men, Joshua had took a count of 'em, but nobody knew nothing about how, how many there was, cause you don't have no record back over there. You just read the record of how many come out of Egypt there didn't you?
Dr. Harris: That's right. Numbers 1:46
Dr. Kinley: Numbers 1:46. But now when Joshua, he counted, now they was never supposed to be counted without the shekel of the sanctuary. They already had the sanctuary, so if Joshua had counted 'em, it must have been for another purpose. The able bodied men that was able to go to war, now, how many of 'em it was, he didn't say. It's not written. Now here's John out on the Isle of Patmos. He said he heard the number called. So it is Yahshua through Yahweh, out on the Isle of Patmos with John. After he had ascended into heaven, listen now, and after they had con.., the conquest of Canaan's Land was finished, and that tabernacle and all was set up there, how many of 'em was it? No record. But John said, 'I heard the number called, 144,000.' Jehovah's Witnesses say there's a hundred forty four thousand of the earth class going to heaven. That happened way back there, and that was 144,000. But now since that time, there's been many that was born in Canaan's Land and come all the way down to Yahshua the Messiah and on down to Cornelius's house and on past, that made up that... Read about that multitude John said he looked and he saw.
Dr. Harris: These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whither, wherever, wherever he goeth.
Dr. Kinley: That's right. There's another number there. There's a great multitude that no man could number there, either in the 7th or the 14th chapter of Revelations.
Dr. Harris: Seventh chapter and ninth verse. After this I beheld, and lo, a great multitude, which no man could number
Dr. Kinley: which no man could number
Dr. Harris: of all nations
Dr. Kinley: of all nations
Dr. Harris: and kindreds
Dr. Kinley: and kindreds
Dr. Harris: and peoples and tongues
Dr. Kinley: and peoples and tongues,
Dr. Harris: stood before the throne.
Dr. Kinley: Now just hold it, just a minute. You remember that Yahweh told Abraham that He would multiply his seed as the sand of the sea and He told Abraham to look up and count the stars? Now here's this whole multitude that John is seeing out there on the Isle of Patmos. Even the Gentiles were grafted in, and they made up that great multitude which no man could number. And they, too, was out there on Mount Sion. Now some of 'em would come along and say, 'Well look, you're wrong about that, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't understand what you're talking about.' Now I'm gonna let you read, where'd you say they was?
Dr. Harris: On Mount Sion
Dr. Kinley: On Mount Sion. Now let's see whether what we're saying is so or not. 12th chapter of Hebrews. Now Hebrews are Jews. And let's see whether what I just said is so or not. Alright read.
Dr. Harris: For ye are not come
Dr. Kinley: Where you reading?
Dr. Harris: Hebrews 12:18
Dr. Kinley: Hebrews 12:18. Look in your Book in Hebrews 12:18. Alright read.
Dr. Harris: For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched
Dr. Kinley: You are not come unto the mount that might be touched
Dr. Harris: and that burned with fire
Dr. Kinley: And that burned with fire
Dr. Harris: nor unto blackness
Dr. Kinley: Nor unto blackness and darkness
Dr. Harris: and darkness, and tempest
Dr. Kinley: And tempest
Dr. Harris: and the sound of a trumpet
Dr. Kinley: And the sound of a trumpet
Dr. Harris: and the voice of words
Dr. Kinley: And the voice of words
Dr. Harris: which voice they that heard entreated
Dr. Kinley: Which voice they that heard entreated
Dr. Harris: that the word should not be spoken to them anymore
Dr. Kinley: That the word should not be spoken to them anymore
Dr. Harris: For they could not endure that which was commanded
Dr. Kinley: Because they could not endure that which that they
Dr. Harris: was commanded
Dr. Kinley: was commanded
Dr. Harris: And if so much as a beast touched the mountain
Dr. Kinley: And if so much as a beast touched the mountain, that's Mount Sinai back there.
Dr. Harris: it shall be stoned or thrust through with a dart.
Dr. Kinley: It shall stone through with a dart.
Dr. Harris: And so terrible was the sight
Dr. Kinley: And so terrible was the sight
Dr. Harris: that Moses said
Dr. Kinley: That Moses... Now you got it now, that Moses said
Dr. Harris: I exceedingly fear and quake
Dr. Kinley: 'I, I'm trembling myself.' Moses, the man that Yahweh spoke to at the burning bush and sent him down into Egypt and brought 'em out, he said, 'I'm, I'm exceedingly afraid, too.' And he stood there and trembled and so also did Mount Sinai rock. Alright read.
Dr. Harris: But
Dr. Kinley: Uh oh. Now you got a but. Now anybody in here that's ever been to school knows that and, but, if and for and therefore are conjunctions that join together two complete thoughts. Now you're not come to Mount Sinai, but you are come... Now wait a minute. Read that over again.
Dr. Harris: But
Dr. Kinley: But
Dr. Harris: ye are come unto
Dr. Kinley: No, no, no, no. We ain't gonna have it like that. There ain't but a hundred forty four thousand of the earth class going. Now here's Paul saying, 'We are come.' Already come. That's past tense. Not going. Are you following me now? But ye are come, to what?
Dr. Harris: unto Mount Sion
Dr. Kinley: Unto Mount Sion. Didn't you say that here they saw a hundred forty four thousand standing out there on Mount Sion and he saw another number? Didn't you say that? Well now here's Mount Sion. And now Paul said you are come, and Jehovah's Witnesses are saying only a hundred forty four thousand of the earth class going. Now you see? Now are you reading out of the Bible?
Dr. Harris: Yes I am.
Dr. Kinley: Alright read.
Dr. Harris: But ye are come
Dr. Kinley: But ye are come. Already come. Read.
Dr. Harris: unto Mount Sion
Dr. Kinley: unto Mount Sion
Dr. Harris: and unto the city of the living Elohim
Dr. Kinley: and unto the city of the living Elohim
Dr. Harris: the heavenly Jerusalem
Dr. Kinley: Now listen, not the earthly Jerusalem over here, but the heavenly Jerusalem. Now that almost makes me have to stop right there and run you over here in Galatians the fourth, 4:26. And I'm just showing you how a carnal mind get the thing all messed up, all twisted up, and these satanic spirits incarnated in a physical body. Now my point here now is, you just got through reading, you are come to the heavenly Mount Sion and the heavenly Jerusalem. Is that what you read? Alright, now let's see.
Dr. Harris: Galatians 4:26
Dr. Kinley: Galatians 4:26. Now back to Jerusalem there.
Dr. Harris: but Jerusalem which is above
Dr. Kinley: But Jerusalem which is above
Dr. Harris: is free
Dr. Kinley: is free
Dr. Harris: which is the mother of us all.
Dr. Kinley: Is the mother of us all. Do you see that now? Another thing I wanted to say: but is the mother of both the Jew and the Gentile. The mother of us all. Now did you just say Jerusalem above? Did you just say you are come to Mount Sion and to Jerusalem above? Is that what you said? Notice, now, it didn't say the Vatican. It didn't say Rome. It didn't say Rome above. It said Jerusalem above, which is the mother of us all. Now Roman Catholics claim that they are the Mother Church. Can't be anything else other than the mother of harlots, because Jerusalem above is our mother.
Now all them kinda things is why they're running around looking for me, trying to get a crack at me, trying to.., you know the carnal minded... I'm a Jew inwardly, so don't feel bad when I say the carnal minded Jew and the Roman Catholics and the Protestants are the satanic spirits incarnated in physical bodies with a carnal mind, and are dead, and they don't know what it's all about. And they just got the whole thing all churned and all mixed and messed up and out there teaching every kind of erroneous doctrine you can think of. Now alright, read.
Dr. Harris: and ye are come to an innumerable company of angels.
Dr. Kinley: Now wait just a minute, Doc. Wait just a minute. Now it didn't say you are gonna come. Now some idiot'll come along, say, 'How many members you got in your church? Oh, there's so many thousands of us, not a handful of folks you got. You wouldn't.., if you was preaching the right thing, you'd have a whole lot of I 'em.' No, I beg your pardon, you got it backwards, because there isn't gonna be but a remnant go over from this age, as there was a remnant come over from the ark and as there was a remnant come over from Yahshua the Messiah to this Present Age. Now ye are come to an innumerable company of angels. Don't you remember a little while ago I told you them angels was in this? Alright.
Dr. Harris: to the general assembly
Dr. Kinley: And to the general assembly. Now hold that just, just a minute. Now this is Paul talking. Now when Yahshua the Messiah appeared or was revealed to John out in the Isle of Patmos, He told him to write what he saw and heard and send it to the Vatican to be imprimatured.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: How about that? Now anything that isn't imprimatured by Roman Catholics or the Holy See ____ and Curia and Pope, the Jesuits, is not genuine. So He didn't tell him. They say that Dominican, which was a Roman ruler banished John to the Isle of Patmos. So if he banished him to the Isle of Patmos, it would seem like that his communication would have been with Rome, but He didn't tell him to do that. But He said, 'Send it to the seven churches,' or assemblies, 'which were in Asia: Philadelphia, Laodicea and so forth and so on. Now look, now all of them, just like our schools are everywhere that we operate, they all speak the same thing and they're all perfectly joined together and as far as the earth plane is concerned, we're all in the same place, so it's the general assembly. Alright read.
Dr. Harris: and church of the firstborn
Dr. Kinley: and congregation, or assembly of the firstborn, of the firstborn. Read.
Dr. Harris: which are written in heaven
Dr. Kinley: Which are written in heaven
Dr. Harris: and to Yahweh, the judge of all
Dr. Kinley: No, no, Doc. You just can't read right. You can't read right. Medical doctor setting up in here and he can't even read it right. Been to college and got his degrees, been practicing medicine, and studied anatomy and physiology, and psychology and philosophy and every other kinda thing, and now he can't read. You wouldn't like to have a doctor like that to come around and give you ____.
Student Body: No. (LAUGHS)
Dr. Kinley: Do you see through what I mean? No, he's reading out of the Book. He's reading what the Book says, not what Jehovah's Witnesses say or somebody else. You see the point? Now you have come to Yahweh. Yahweh is everywhere; He is the sum total of everything that exists. And it is in Him that we live and we move and we have our being. Now when I said the sum total of everything, I do mean the vegetation, the man, the beast of the field, everything that is in existence, or let me reach down, lotta times they scold me about using words, every so called inanimate and animate object and thing, individuals and persons in the earth plane and also in the heavens above, including the incorporeal as well as the corporeal. Now that's who He is. He's the Father, listen, we have it said every time we come to school, He is the source, and He is the substance, He is the limits and the bounds; no way to get outside of Him and look back at Him. And no man has seen Him with these physical eyes. You just have to see Him manifested in a body and in nature because He's the sum total of everything, and He's the essence. He's the substance of everything. Now did you follow me? Did you understand? Now if we'd believe that, we'd behave ourselves one towards another. The black folks wouldn't be running around hollering around about black power. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) The white folks about white supremacy. The Jews, they're segregated and separated. Now get this one. The yellow folks, they say, which is the Chinese, race. Did you ever hear such a mess as that? A Chinese, a yellow race.
Now while I'm on that, I wanna tell you this. Don't you be deceived. Now I told you who I was. I told you that I was a Jew inwardly and not one outwardly, and I also told you that I was a Son of God, not a Roman Catholic or a Protestant, and I am not a communist. And when you come right down to the thing that's what we're.., all of us got: communist, just common, just common folks (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) filled with the Spirit of Yahweh. That's it. Now I'm not taking it as they define it to be. Now they say, the devil said this, the Roman Catholic Church, they put that score on the communists. They said they were atheistic inclined. That's what they say, but I wanna let you know there's a Roman Catholic Church in Russia. I wanna let you know that there's a Baptist Church in Russia, I wanna let you know that the Russian Orthodox Church is in Russia. And I wanna let you know that the Russian people believe in Yahweh, but they don't believe in this degregational foolishness that the Roman Catholics have screamed to the wind because they would not let them rule the world and dictate to the Kremlin. They gobbled up all the land and everything.
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Dr. Kinley: They won't stand for it. (MICROPHONE SQUEAKS) Is that somebody ringing on me? Now that's, that's a block that they pulled. Carl Marx said that religion was an antidote,
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Dr. Kinley: and right there is where they branded 'em as not believing in God. Now let me tell you something. James said, James said, even the devil believes in Yahweh. And don't anybody know any better, any more about it than he does. Why? Because he was cast out of heaven. Do you follow through what I'm talking about? A man standing around talking about his being a atheist. No, you're not a atheist, you're just a fool, ____ ____. There's no such thing as an atheist. Somebody might say, 'well, I didn't say I was an atheist, I'm a agnostic, but I believe there's a God and you can't find out nothing about Him.' Well the evidence is too conclusive, that's what his problem is cause he doesn't know that his body, which is matter, come from spirit, and his soul, and the spirit that's in him. And man is made in His likeness and in His image, and he's going all around teaching how to try to find God. It's just our carnal mind, and to be carnal minded is enmity against Yahweh. Alright.
Dr. Harris: Ye are come to the spirits
Dr. Kinley: And ye. Now wait a minute. Hold everything. Do you remember that Yahshua the Messiah said to the Jews in those days when He was walking around, He said, Abraham and the rest of 'em back there would come and sit down in the Kingdom of God or the Kingdom of Elohim, before those Jews would back there. Do you recall that? Alright. Now come to what?
Dr. Harris: to the spirits of
Dr. Kinley: Now I didn't say body. Uh uh. But you are come to spirits of what?
Dr. Harris: of just men
Dr. Kinley: of just men
Dr. Harris: made perfect
Dr. Kinley: made perfect. Hold it. When the Messiah come out of the earth, out of the tomb, or out of the grave. Matthew 27:52 says so. And He was the first fruits, and when He come out of the grave, Matthew 27:52 says, many of 'em that slept in the dust of the earth, rose and when on in to Jerusalem. Is that right?
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Proving that He was the Resurrection and He was the Life. When they stood out there and saw Him raise one man from the dead that had been dead four days, Lazarus I'm talking about, everybody would say that was a stupendous and a mighty miracle. Right?
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: But what about Him raising for 4000 years from the dead? And He's the First Fruit. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and Job..., he made the statement, he said, 'I know,' telling his wife and friends, said, 'I know that my redeemer lives and He shall stand in the earth in the latter days.' And yea those skin worms devour this body of mine, and it has effect. 'Yet in my flesh shall I see Him for myself and not for another.' And old Job was one of 'em along with Abraham and them that looked Him straight in the flesh. And Yahweh had said back in the 37th chapter of Ezekiel, He would lay sinews upon men's bones, and He would bring 'em up out of the grave. He promised to do that and He did, and they went on in. Now, we have come to the spirits of those just men made perfect through the resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah from the dead. And to what else?
Dr. Harris: And to Yahshua
Dr. Kinley: And to Yahshua. Now remember, that said you done come to Yahweh. And now you got, now you said you come to an innumerable company of angels. And now you said you'd come to Yahshua. Alright, read.
Dr. Harris: the mediator of the new covenant
Dr. Kinley: The mediator, or the go between of the New Covenant. Alright, read.
Dr. Harris: and to the blood of sprinkling
Dr. Kinley: And to the blood of sprinkling
Dr. Harris: That speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Dr. Kinley: That speaketh better things than that of Abel. That blood that's sprinkled is better than that of Abel. And what else?
Dr. Harris: See that you refuse not Him that speaketh.
Dr. Kinley: See that you refuse not Him that speaketh.
Dr. Harris: For if they escaped not
Dr. Kinley: Now wait a minute. Now wait a minute. Don't you go to sleep. No, don't you go to sleep. Don't you do that, not in this meeting. You go on out there somewhere and sleep in a synagogue or something or another, or a church or something, but don't you go to sleep in here, cause if you remember that I told you to begin with that Yahshua the Messiah said it will not be you that's speaking, but it'll be Yahweh that speaks through these bodies. And you must discern which it is, whether it's satanic or whether it's divine. Now if He's speaking through these bodies, you check out and find out whether it's Yahweh speaking through this body or not. And listen, you be very, very careful about it. See to it that you don't refuse Him. It's alright for you to refuse me, but don't you refuse Him. (BELL RINGS)
They rung the bell on me. The bell has rung. Got one, one, one, one, one other... Better pick that thing down there I wanted you to see. But now do you see, do you see the ____, the down right ignorance? Now since you've come to Yahweh, and you've come to Yahshua the Messiah, to the general assembly, now since you have come, just where are you talking about going? What you need to do is to realize that you're setting up in the judgement. Do you understand? And you see to it that you don't refuse Yahweh. Have you got another one there?
Dr. Harris: Ephesians the 3rd chapter
Dr. Kinley: Ephesians the 3rd chapter
Dr. Harris: 11th through the 15th verse
Dr. Kinley: 11th through the 15th verse. Now you have to read this.
Dr. Harris: According to the eternal purpose.
Dr. Kinley: According... Now listen, now we're talking about according to Yahweh's eternal purpose. You must know something about what the purpose is. Alright, read.
Dr. Harris: which he purposed in Yahshua the Messiah our savior.
Dr. Kinley: which He purposed within Yahshua the Messiah our savior.
Dr. Harris: in whom we have boldness and access
Dr. Kinley: In whom we have boldness that we might... and I'm not afraid of Popes. I'm not afraid of anyone. Just as bold as I can be. What do you think? Yahweh's scared of the devil? (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) What's the matter with you? That's what.., don't get excited, cause it's in you too. No, don't get excited, don't get puffed up. 'Now, who does he think he is?' Well, I know who I am, and I'm trying to make you aware and conscious of who you are. Alright. Go ahead on.
Dr. Harris: in whom we have boldness and access with confidence
Dr. Kinley: We have access with confidence. That's the reason why Paul says in Romans 1:16... I don't want you to read it, cause time is expired. He said to the Romans, after He dispersed 'em from Jerusalem, run 'em on back to plain cities, every whicha way. And that's how the congregation got started down in Rome. A lotta people don't know how that got started down there. They think that Peter went down there and set it up, but that's not so. And Paul said in Romans 1:16, said, 'I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Yahshua the Messiah.' 'Why aren't you ashamed?' Because it's the power of Yahweh. That's why I'm not ashamed of it, that everyone that believes, get this straight, to the Jew first and then also to the Gentile. Alright, read on.
Dr. Harris: wherefore I desire that ye faint not
Dr. Kinley: Wherefore I desire that you faint not
Dr. Harris: at my tribulation
Dr. Kinley: At my tribulation. I told you I've been beat up, I've been cussed out, everything has happened to me. I been put out, throwed out, run out of town. That's right. I never did nothing to nobody, since I had the vision. Why, even my mother turned me down. And you heard it read up there and finally by and by she found out what it was. And she apologized by saying, 'Clifford, I'm your mother, I did give birth to you, but I confess I never knew you.' Now what she was talking about, that which is within me and should be in you. And that's born from above, I've already told you that. Alright, read on.
Dr. Harris: wherefore I desire that you faint not at my tribulation for you, which is your reward
Dr. Kinley: Now don't think, cause somebody beat me up.., the Black Muslims did that at 906 Hopkins Street in Cincinnati, Ohio. For a long time I was all curled up like this. Beat me up on a Friday morning. And they had a temple down on the corner down there. And so then they said to me, that five of 'em, said, 'You mean to tell me...' They tried to scare me. They wanted me to admit that the Honorable Elijah Mohammed in Chicago, he was Allah that was sent and not me. Why you think I'm gonna stand and blaspheme like that? And I'll tell you what else they say. Said, 'You got some white folks in there,' and said, 'all of 'em are liars.' And I got beat up on account of you white folks. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) That's right. Now the president of this school, he was president at the time... And we had white people in the school, and they said, 'They ain't.., they don't amount to nothing; they're good for nothing, ornery, lying, stinking people. Now you take it back.' Said, 'No, I'm not gonna take it back.' And so they beat me up. I mean they beat me up good. And then after they got done, they locked the door so I couldn't get out. Then after they seen I wasn't gonna take it back, then they opened the door, and they said, 'now you can go.' I said, 'you didn't send me up here.' And I'll go out when I get ready. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now if, if it was not Yahshua the Messiah, if it wasn't Yahweh Elohim in me.., I used to be a prize fighter, and if somebody'd come up and grab me around the neck, don't you know I'd tear his out ____ ____. You don't do that to me. But now, Yahweh won't let me resist you. Now you say they're gonna kill all of the negroes that don't believe, and all the white folks, in 1970. I notice they didn't quite make the grade, but anyhow, that's what they said they was gonna do. So we just might as well give you ____, 'go ahead and finish up the job. Don't keep on talking about it.' And so then they said to me, they said, 'look, since we treated you like we hated you, would you come down to our temple, down on the corner of 5th and Central.' I said, 'well, sure.' 'You mean you would?' 'Yeah.' He said, 'Oh.' I didn't have no armed guards with me either, I went by myself, and walked right in. 'Look, I don't want no back seat, let me set up in the front seat.' The man up in pulpit said, 'Say look, say you people back there that took everything off of that man that come in, this man setting right here,' said, 'I am not gonna put my hands on him no more, and if any of you put your hands on him, I'll kill you myself.' Said, 'now if Yahweh or Allah hasn't done something for him, he's the biggest fool I ever seen.' I'm not afraid of nobody. Alright. See we have ____. Alright, read.
Dr. Harris: For this cause
Dr. Kinley: For this cause
Dr. Harris: I bow my knees
Dr. Kinley: I bow my knees. Not these here, these up here. That's right, read.
Dr. Harris: Of whom the whole family
Dr. Kinley: Now here's the part... Here's why I'm having him to read. Of whom the whole family
Dr. Harris: in heaven and earth
Dr. Kinley: In heaven and in earth
Dr. Harris: is named
Dr. Kinley: Is named Roman Catholic.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: Could you imagine Yahshua the Messiah coming on down in the flesh to build a Roman Catholic Church? Could you just imagine Him? But this one man that sinned back there in the Garden of Eden... Now could you imagine Him to come all the way from heaven to build, 4000 and about 15, about 30 years after, to build a church on a sinner like Peter? Could you imagine something like that? Another sinner? He said it Hisself, He said, 'Depart from me ____.' ____ ____ on a man full of sin. Now He ain't got no better sense than to come and build a church on something like that. And look, want you to read in your Bible, I want you to read it straight. He said, 'Upon this Rock,' talking about Himself. Now if He was talking about Peter, He'd said upon that rock. You don't know the difference between this and that. Alright, read on, Doc.
Dr. Harris: That's all.
Dr. Kinley: That's all. Now I wanted to show you that the whole family, I'm through, the whole family in heaven, that's the angelic creatures that was created without number, and in the earth plane, they're all called by the same name. And I told you that that name was Yahweh that was up on that high priest's garment back there: that miter - Yahshua the Messiah. Now that's not Roman Catholic, that's not Baptist, that's not Methodist, that's not Presbyterian, that's not Unitarian. And while I'm on that score, I wanna throw in Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research.
Student Body: Alright.
Dr. Kinley: They ain't no good either. This is a school, not a church. You understand? This is a school. And look, you don't have no business down here if you don't come down here to learn something. Now if you know more about it than we do, then you ought to come on down anyhow and be the teacher. And we'll all sit down and listen at you. Matthew 28:19. I have to, I have to do something about it.
Dr. Harris: go ye therefore
Dr. Kinley: Go ye therefore
Dr. Harris: and teach all nations
Dr. Kinley: And teach all nations
Dr. Harris: baptizing them in the name of the Father,
Dr. Kinley: baptizing them in the name of the Father
Dr. Harris: and of the son
Dr. Kinley: Now you hold that. You make sure you read water. Now look. Come on over here, Bill. After that chart, show them carnal ordinances. Now there was physical water in there. We told you it stood only in meats and drinks and diverse washings, and carnal ordinances imposed on the Jew until after the time of the resurrection, or after the reformation. Now look, you read water in this. He said, 'go ye therefore, 'to His disciples. 'Go therefore into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.' Would you call a negro or a jap or a Chinaman a creature?
Student Body: Yes.
Dr. Kinley: Alright, go on.
Dr. Harris: baptizing them in the name of the Father
Dr. Kinley: No, no, no, no, water. No sir. Now you better read water in there. Said, 'baptizing them in the name of the Father.'
Dr. Harris: and of the son
Dr. Kinley: and of the son.
Dr. Harris: and of the Holy Spirit.
Dr. Kinley: and of the Holy Spirit. Is that right? Is that what it says? Now, how in the world you folks, you folks that have been down in the water, now you know yourself, your preacher or whoever baptized you, he didn't say, even when he put you in the water at a ceremony, 'I baptize you in the name of Yahweh, Elohim, and Yahshua the Messiah.' Have any of you in here been baptized like that in the water?
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: You follow what I'm talking about? Then you didn't do what He said. Now how is somebody gonna baptize you in the name of the Father and he don't even know what it is hisself? Now here's the Roman Catholics. 'In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.' They don't never say what the name is. They do not say what the name of the... They do not say what the name of the Father is. They do not say what the name of the Son is. They say that the name of the Father is God. And then they say the name of the Son is Jesus Christ. And the Holy Ghost, they don't know what that is. Now we told you awhile ago, that another Comforter would sent in His Father's name. Now look, that just makes me think about something else.
Now we try our best to tell you that our books that we have sent out there and brought the name, the true name on back in. Now it's been in the text, I mean it's been in the footnotes all along, for years and years, it's always been there. I'm gonna tell you this: since we sent that book to the Vatican... I want you to, I want you to get that book. We sent that book, this first you got in your hand, we sent it to the Vatican. Now I want you to get that other book over there and see if it's imprimatured. That one right there you got in your hand. Hurry up, the man done rung the bell on me. Leonard, which one of these books? Is this the one or is that one? Imprimatured. What does it say over here in the text, Yahweh... What does it say?
Leonard Snellbaker: Talking about the Yahwistic, the name Yahweh, translation is Lord, and by God reveals Himself to Israel, and the Elohist or Elohim as God.
Dr. Kinley: Now I just wanted to show you, we drove them hypocrites down in the Vatican, we made 'em put the... When was that copyrighted?
Leonard Snellbaker: It was copyrighted 1970.
Dr. Kinley: That's copyright in 1970. See what time our book is copyrighted.
Fred Allen, Jr.: 1961.
Dr. Kinley: In 1961. Prior to 1961 the name Yahweh, Elohim, and Yahshua were not written in text in your Bibles.
Student Body: That's right.
Dr. Kinley: When was our book copyrighted.
Fred Allen, Jr.: 1961
Dr. Kinley: 1961. When was this Holy Name Bible copyrighted?
Student Body: 1963.
Dr. Kinley: 1963. Now here you come along and you wanna tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and all them old funny names that goes on back into it. There's many that they took 'em out and then we drove 'em up to putting 'em back in. Don't you tell me there ain't some power in this school. Don't start no argument with me. No sir. Don't do that. The Apostle Paul said this, properly the Hebrew is Saul, said, 'Though we, or an angel just drop right down from heaven, preach any other gospel to you that that which we have already preached, let him be a anathema or accursed.'
Now somebody's trying to frighten me. And I'm walking around with guards like I was afraid of somebody. Don't you let nothing like that fool you. That's for your protection. Cause if you try that thing, I'll prove to you what they missed. I want you to know that didn't nobody take my life before; I laid it down on my own accord, you didn't do it. And you're not gonna do it now. I'm not afraid of anybody. I just do that to keep you from acting a fool, cause I will stand here and talk about you and your church and your pastor. And there's nobody, as Paul said, 'No man in a region of Achaia shall stop me from this boasting.' I hope you gotten something out of it.
STUDENT BODY APPLAUDS
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