24) DECEMBER 24, 1969: YAHWEH ELOHIM IS THE FIRST ADAM
(ALSO CALLED: 1969 XMAS)
by Dr. Henry C. Kinley
Los Angeles, California
audio cassette recording received from Lamar Greer (#20B)
1 90 minute audio cassette
Catalog #: 69.1224
transcribed by Sandra J. Giragosian
first proofreading: Debra MaNeeley
second proofreading: Michael Rothstein
third proofreading: Susan Ameigh
fourth proofreading: Gerry Rothstein
fifth proofreading: International Public Relations Committee
approved by the International Public Relations Committee: 1997
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1st speaker: Fred Allen, Junior
TAPE 1 SIDE 1
Moderator: ... the Founder and Dean, I guess you could say we were blessed, although I've, I've heard him describe it as something other than pleasant, when he actually received this vision and revelation. His vision was the start of the teaching. Dr. Henry C. Kinley is his name, and he will be our next speaker.
Dr. Kinley: Thank you ever so much. I just wanna say that I hope that you, you've gotten something out of that. One thing we do try to do down here, we don't just try, we just go ahead and do it: and that is, we point out everything by the scriptures, and that removes all doubt.
Now, just reading the Bible, I'm back again to that, just reading the Bible, that don't mean you know anything about it. I'll tell you just like ____ ____ ____. Now listen at what I'm gonna say to you. Now what you have to do, what you have to do, and that's what Brother Freddy has done, you have to make these correlations. Now, if you don't make the correlations, there's nothing you can do about it.
And I wanna tell you something else. You must remain a skeptic, until you have some profound knowledge of these things. It's a physical and mental impossibility for you to believe in something you do not know anything about. Now, that's why we made these charts. And I set there as Dr. Allen was up here talking.., and it's the thing that I labor so hard all the time to get the people to understand. And as Dr. Harris and them say often, great big words (Dr. KINLEY HITS THE BOARD). Why? And how you know it?
How do you know what you're reading? How do you know the Bible's so. Well, somebody say, 'Well, I just believe it's so.' Well, that won't get it. No, indeed. Just won't get it. Now, look here. I'll try and make a few real quick ones.
Now, you read in the Bible that Noah builded an ark, and he put one door in it, and one window in it. Now, suppose I say to you, 'Why?' 'Well, I don't know, but the Bible says that he did.' I say to you as, and as they say now. Now, you listen at me. They say, 'Well, now, look. I don't believe that the children of Israel come out of the land of Egypt and went through the Red Sea.' They are trying to fix some way to make it convenient for it to make possible for them to have done that. So then, they say then it was the Sea of Reeds. Now, did you ever hear tell of anybody getting drowned in the Sea of Reeds? They're trying to figure out some way to make it possible. Then, another one said, 'No,' said, 'I'll tell you what I think about it.' That's what they told me when I first come here. Said, 'now I think that the Children of Israel went through the Red Sea at low tide.' They're trying every kind of way to make it possible. Then he said to me, 'Well, what do you think about that?'
Now, if you don't have no knowledge of these correlations, you cannot answer. You can't answer. Now, you remember, I talked about the one door? Now I'm talking about the Red Sea. Now, nobody don't, they don't see why that you would slip off of thing into another. You get the point? Well, I'll show you.
Now, this one door in this Ark, like you see here, one door in this Ark, one, just one way in through it there. Now, you just had one door, or one entrance, or one way through that Red Sea. Now, do you see that? So, if there isn't but one way through this Red Sea, there can't be but one way through, in, in that Ark. Get the point? Now, if that's so, then there can't be but just one door in the Tabernacle. You get it now? Now, if that's so, then Yahshua the Messiah, He has to be the one way, and the one door, and the one entrance unto... Just one, just, just one way. Ain't no need coming up with no sixteen messiahs and all that kind of thing. That's the reason why He said, I am The Way. He did not say I am the ways.
And almost all of the books that I have picked up to read, where the theologians have written, and expressed this, truths, a whole lot of truths. There ain't but one Truth. That's right. And He told Pilate... Pilate said, 'Well, what is truth?'1 He said, I am the Truth.2 That's right. There can't be but one Messiah, then there can't be... and He's the Truth, then there can't be... I'm talking about the oneness of it all through there. There wasn't but one door, and one way into Joseph's new tomb. It's hewn out in the rock, that rock.3 So that He stopped that up.
Now look, now watch how you catch somebody. Watch how you catch somebody. See what I just said? Do you see what I just said about the Red Sea?
Student Body: Uh huh.
Dr. Kinley: About the one door, the one entrance in there. Now, we're gonna catch you right straight in the, in the middle of the Book. Now, here on the third day in the creation, three days journey from Egypt, through the Red Sea, through this door. Three days journey. Water closed off here.4 Now look, if this was low tide, if this was low tide here... This is on the third day, third day down here, then this has got to be as you read in the first chapter of Genesis, the new creation, the earth was inundated or surrounded by water. And on the third day, you got it right in your Book, then the waters was moved off of the face of the earth, and let the dry land appear.5 Well now, if this is low tide, then this is low tide up here.
Now, then on that third day, the seed of vegetation penetrated the soil. Right?
Student Body: Right!
Dr. Kinley: Now, here on the third day, here's the seed of Abraham passing through the Red Sea. You see how simple it is? That's why we can't understand nothing. We've got so many opinions, and what nots, until we.., when we read over here in Genesis, we done forgot all about over in Revelations. And that's what you have to do, you have to put this Bible together so it makes some sense.
Now let's take this one. If you notice on this chart here. I didn't draw a picture of this. This is the first one we made. I didn't draw a picture in here, Abraham and Melchizedek, I didn't draw no picture there. I thought like this: well now if I can show them this and that, and I'm trying to save drawing. I couldn't find nobody in the first place, everybody I got to, said, 'well, I can't. I, I, I don't think I...' There's more 'I can'ts.' So I just had to settle, and condense this whole entire work as much as I possibly could, but in the meantime I've, I'm trying to... well, I'll put it this way. Just one plate'll do the job.
1 John 18:38
2 John 14:6
3 Matthew 27:60
4 Exodus 14:21-22
5 Genesis 1:9, 10; Psalm 95:5
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: One plate'll do the job, cause it's all got to be the same. There cannot be no errors. Now if you mess up here, I'm gonna get you forty, thirty-nine other times. Now, if you go down to that end, you come back to this one. Any mistakes you make down there, I'm gonna get you. Now, it takes that, Doc, to prove that there is a Yahweh.
Now, I talked about Abraham. Now, you heard him talk about the birth of the Messiah. Is that right? Now, listen. Watch. Now here is Melchizedek. He is king and priest of Salem, which is the ancient name for YaruSalem. 'I thought that, made that Jerusalem out of that.' No, I didn't say that.
Student Body: That's right.
Dr. Kinley: Now, look. Abraham met Melchizedek. And Melchizedek, king and priest of Salem, are you listening, long before the Law ever come into existence, 430 years, and when Abraham met Melchizedek, now this is what I want you to see now, and he was blessed of Melchizedek. The seed was still in his loins: Ishmael and Isaac had not been born, but he was blessed of Melchizedek while the seed was still in his loins. Now then, you watch. I can just take that anywhere I want to, and you can't head me off. Ain't nothing you can do with it.
Now, let me show you. Yahweh is masculine and feminine within Himself. Being masculine and feminine within Himself.., let me show you what I'm talking about. This Spirit, it contained everything, attributes and all, so when Spirit took on shape and form.., you got me now, and in this shape and form... Now, where He came from was from here, from pure spirit, taking on a shape and form, there's nothing in this that isn't in that. Now, then He come on down into this. But now, before He come down into this, then you got to take this and bring it out here in this Man. We've got to take this and bring it out in this Man; in other words, what comes from here has got to come here. Then you've got to come down here in this Man, Man made in the likeness and image of Yahweh. Now, if that's so, then in this man, in this man, Adam, and in this Man here, that woman has got to be in that Man. The seed. There it is over there.
Now, let me tell you something else about that. Now, this one's talking about a king and a priest. Take it up to that plate right there, Clyde, next to it. Now, I want them, just them two plates, just them two alone.
Now, when Yahweh... Here's something else folks don't understand. Now, when Yahweh made that man out of the dust of the earth, now, you listen, now somebody's always saying, 'He blowed in his nos...' No, He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and he became an animated soul, or a living soul, the man. Now you watch. Got your eyes open now? Then Yahweh took that man and put him in the Garden of Eden. Listen folks, the man's got a belly. He's got a belly. That's one of his organs. Now watch. Now he calls... Now, it looks like... Don't, don't miss this one. Don't miss this one. Now, he was created out there in the open parts of the earth, then Yahweh took the man that He created and put him in the Garden; in other words, the man was not created in the Garden.
And then in the Garden, in the Garden of Eden, listen now, He caused a deep sleep to fall upon that man, in the Garden where the fruit was, the fruit for his belly, where the trees was, was in fruition, when that man was created. Now, if that be true, then as Dr. Freddy Allen told you, then if this man, Romans 5:14, got to be a figure of the one that come. Now, He just... He can't be born no wintertime. That's out of season. Read Genesis 8:22, seed time, day and night, summer and winter, shall not cease, not while the earth remains.
Now then put that man in the Garden, caused that deep sleep to fall upon him. I wanna show you something there. Now, when Adam was taken from the dust of the earth, he was an inanimate object, just the same as he were dead. Then, when the Creator breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, he's a living soul.6 Then He takes the man and puts him in the Garden, where He planted a Garden east in Eden, and put the man in the Garden. Now listen. Now He caused a deep sleep to fall upon him. Now, that deep sleep that He... fallen upon him... The man hadn't committed no sin. The man had not committed no sin. Now, that deep sleep was symbolical of death.
Then He takes, now, then He goes into his side and takes the woman out, of his side, in the Garden. Now, there's something..; in other words folks, there's got to be something to eat there in that Garden for that man and that woman. Now that, by itself, ought to tell you that Yahshua the Messiah cannot be born in no wintertime. Can't be born, not, not that way, and be no figure of Him that was to come. Do you see it now? There's just no sense in arguing about it. It just can't be so. Alright.
Now, we go right back to Melchizedek there. Now, the reason why I didn't draw it on this chart here was because it's the same, ain't no difference in it. There isn't one bit of difference in it.
Now, Abraham... Bringing it right from pure spirit into shape and form, and then down here, then take it just the same way back, with the man, and put him in the Garden. Miss Eve is right there. She's got, she's got to come out of him, both masculine and feminine.
Now, Abraham, meeting Melchizedek.., and His priesthood is after the order of Melchizedek, not Aaron's. Now, what we are in as of now, I mean now, today, is the priesthood of the Messiah, which is after the order of Melchizedek. And Melchizedek was king and priest. If Melchizedek was king and priest, then Yahshua the Messiah, and Him only and by Himself, is the one and only King of Kings, and High Priest of High Priests, as of now. Today. And He is officiating.
6 Genesis 2:7
Student Body: That's right.
Dr. Kinley: And He's qualified. I mean today, now, in this dispensation. ____ in the Dispensation of Grace. And He knows the difference between the Law, the Dispensation of the Law and the Dispensation of Grace, and so forth and so on. Right?
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Now, look. Now, Sarah, she was barren.7 Abraham, he's old, and he had to have strength; he couldn't have no son. So Yahweh gave him strength to fertilize that spermatic fluid within his loins. I'm talking about Abraham. Now, Sarah, she was barren from birth. Now, you've got an impossibility set upon both sides: on Abraham's side and also on Sarah's side. Well, now, why about, why that?
It all brings you right back to the same thing all the time. It's, folks, listen, let me say it this way. It isn't anything else but just a constant repetition all the time. It ain't, it ain't doing nothing but repeat, it's repeating now, right straight on down. And look, if you don't start right, you don't have no chance of ending up right, because Yahweh declared the end from the beginning.8 Now, it's not a speculative thing, it's not a haphazardous thing, it's not a presumptuous thing.
Now, when the Jews, listen at me, when they read the writings of Moses and the prophets, they went and done as we do. They put their interpretations on it, what things meant. They missed it. Now, in the Talmud... Now, you know what the Talmud is, Freddy? The Talmud is a Hebraic interpretation of the Law and the Prophets. They're using operations. They'd walk up to Messiah, and they'd ask Him, said, 'Moses, in the law said thus and so forth and so on. What do you say about it?' Talking about the woman that should be stoned.9 Another case, somebody said, said there's a.., Moses had a, a man has a, seven brothers had a wife. And one died, the next one took the same wife, and so on down, and all seven of 'em had her. Now, in the kingdom, whose wife is she gonna be? All seven of them had her.10 Now, that's that Talmudic interpretation. You see what I'm talking about? They'll run into Him, try to tie Him up, and tangle Him all up. Now, this is what He said to 'em. Now, remember, they had the, they had the Torah or the Law, walking around. They had the Talmud too. And oh, that boy thought he was something else. You know what I'm talking about? Carnal minded as he could be, looking at everything in a literal sense. That's the reason why Yahweh gave 'em natural things to eat: it typified spiritual things.
7 Genesis 16:1
8 Isaiah 46:10
9 John 8:3
10 Matthew 22:23-32
Now, they take that back to the Garden, too. In the trees in the Garden, the fruit of the trees in the Garden. The fruit of the Spirit, that's what it typified in the Garden, them trees in the Garden. ____ physical ____. The fruit of the Spirit. Now, that's what you feed, that's what you're gonna have to have. You're gonna have to have the fruit of the Spirit. You're not going to run around here with no unleavened bread. Get that? And call yourself keeping the commandments of God. No, we're not trying to keep you from keeping the commandments of God, but we want you to know what they are. Cause if you don't keep 'em, you're lost.
It said, thou shall not commit adultery.11 Well, the Jews went to Him with their Talmud, and they tried to tie Him up. And to make a long story short, cause time's expired, when they told Him, said, 'Listen, you do...' I mean, they got the Book. They got the Torah. They got the Law and the Prophets. And then when Messiah says, you don't know the scriptures... 'Don't tell me I don't know. I got the Book.' Well, since you say you got the Book, that ain't all you don't know. You don't know the scriptures, and neither do you know the power of God. ____ ____ ____ both ways. I'll tell you, it's something.
But unless you know how to go about this thing, to put it together, this Bible ain't gonna make no sense. No sir, it just ain't gonna make no sense. And you're not gonna believe it, either. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and say, 'we believe this and we believe that, and we believe the other.' You say, 'Well, I believe it. Well, I understand.' No, you have, you're gonna have to understand something, cause if you don't, if you don't understand it, you can't make the grade. That's all there is to it.
A lotta nice folks in the world. A lotta academically trained, scientific, and philosophical men; walking lexicographers, and etymologists, extemporaneous oratory. Profound. Yes in... And his oratorical ability will stand your hair on your head, Yes, indeed, when you get through with it, you ain't got nothing, just a lotta junk.
Now, the thing I'm saying to you in conclusion, is now why... Get back up there to Melchizedek. Now, here's Melchizedek, king and priest, and he's blessing Abraham while the seed is still yet in his loins. Now look, just like this, the angel here is overshadowing this mercy seat in the Most Holy Place, in your, in your pattern, and this word is laying in here. Now, that's what Brother Freddy tried to do, was to show you, not the angels, but Yahweh, Leviticus 16:2, said He would dwell, dwell up in the cloud above the Mercy Seat, between the wings of the cherubim, and that Law was laid down in. Now, Mary's body, and Sarah's body. Melchizedek blessing Abraham while the seed is still in his loins. And here, it's just like the seed is in here, pressing the loins of the Virgin Mary. Then that spermatic fluid that was put in the womb, the barren womb, because Mother Earth she's in a virtuous state. She's barren before organic. Do you know what I mean by organic? Yes, she was produced... The Earth was, it was without form and it was void. It's, it's, the matter was amalgamated, conglomerated, a coring mass, no order. Now when that spermatic fluid is put in the womb, it takes on shape and form. Then it's the same thing here, coming from this spermatic fluid here, shape and form, and then comes on down.
11 Exodus 20:14
Well now, what I'm saying here is: that seed that was in Abraham's loins by the blessing of Melchizedek, which was a figure of Yahweh, Yahshua: it was a figure of the whole thing. Yes, indeed. Now that's the reason why he's without pedigrees and genealogies. This one ain't got no pedigrees and genealogies. Mother Earth is a virtuous state, and Yahweh is the Father, Yahweh Elohim. You can't say Adam's grandfather.
Now, some scientists come up and say, 'listen, the pre-Adamic creation.' Yeah, there is a pre-Adamic creation too, but he don't know what he's talking about. Now here's the pre-Adamic creation: the angels or the spiritual creation was before the physical. That's pre-Adamic.
Now, watch this one, and it'll mess you up. Adam created the whole thing.
Student Body: Okay. Uh huh. Hmm.
Dr. Kinley: Now you're messed up, cause this is the first Adam back here. (Dr. KINLEY HITS THE CHART)
Student Body: Right. You're right. (LAUGHTER AND CHATTER)
Dr. Kinley: (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS) You see that now? See how quick you can get all messed up and turned around. You don't know the story. Then, that just means this, that Adam created everything there was, the woman and everything. Everything, there wasn't nothing created without Him. He was the first, and He's the last. He's the beginning and the end. But now then, this man back here, He's the first heavenly figure. This Adam here, He's the first earth man. And one was a figure of the other. Now, the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.12 This Bible won't make no sense at all unless you really know something about it.
Now then, listen. Now, Sarah, receiving that seed, and then it penetrated her loins. and she was barren, just like Mary, just like Mother Earth impregnated with the seed of vegetation. Abraham, in his seed, seed passed on to Sarah, and then he's born. Sarah, she's barren, just like Mother Earth. She's barren and destitute, until Yahweh fertilized her, and put that seed of vegetation in there; in other words, put matter into it, organized then. Oh, it's so wonderful, so true.
Look brethren, let me tell you something. I, I'd, I'd just like to say this to you. That's one reason why we tell you, 'come on down here.' I don't care what you believe. It's all right with me. You can believe in a, anything you want to. And you don't have no other alternative than to believe just first one thing and another, and first one way and another until somebody shows you the reality of it. Now, if you're wrong or mistaken about something, come on down. Wouldn't it be better for you to find out about it now?
12 Matthew 19:30
Student Body: Uh huh. That's right.
Dr. Kinley: What's the use of you running on talking about, 'well Jesus so and so and.' Now, that's just not His name. So, you just might as well find it out now. Somebody's got all hot in the collar because 'look here, brother, I'm.., all my folks believed in Jesus, and today is Jesus' birthday.' You get the point? That's alright when you don't know no better, but come on down and find out whether that's the way it is or not. Then when you find the truth about something, forget the other part of it.
Say, listen, don't you realize it's got to be a negative and a positive. There's got to be a good and a bad. How would Yahweh ever be able to show His power or manifest Himself, if He didn't have an opponent or an adversary. Raised up Pharaoh, and then harden his heart. 'What are you doing that for?' I'm gonna show off on him. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)
Now, you set around with you and your diabolical dogma, and won't stand correcting in the scriptures. Getting all, they come here and tighten all up, get all tightened up, said, 'look, I wasn't raised like that. I'll tell you, now all of my people were this, that, and the other. I'm a so and so bred, and I'm a so and so born, and when I die, I'll be a so and so b...' Why don't you come on and learn something about it.
Yahweh don't care about... There were 3,000 of 'em killed right in the Wilderness in one day. Don't care about doing away with you and your hard head. Yes, indeed, down here you wanna learn something about the truth. We don't need two opposing parties in here.
Now, I said I had a vision and a revelation. Ain't nobody done nothing with it.
Student Body: Right. That's right.
Dr. Kinley: It's 37 years, going on 38, and listen, we seen all, pretty much all of the so-called smart boys. They've flocked down here. 'Don't take advantage of him,' like they did up here. Tell us all you know. If you can't get it out this time, come on back. If you can't get it out here, come on back, just ____. But I'll tell you one thing, if you, if you will come, and it's better that you do, before we get done smacking you over the head, 40 different times with the same thing. It's a repetition, all the way, all the way through, and from Genesis on to Revelations. When we get, when we get through with that... One thing you'll have to do. I'll tell you what that is. You either have to join us, or get out one of 'em. You can't stay here and be no ignorant fool. It's impossible. And there's a, there's a whole lotta folks belong to this school, all over the country. And we've had 'em from just every whichaway. Now I do, and we have been every which way, all across this country. We've met 'em from... You know what I'm talking about? And so far as books, comments, what the not, and Jews, Roman Catholics, Protestants, and academically-trained theologians, and Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Camelites, Dunkards, Roman Catholics, Church of Christ. We got 'em from everywhere, setting right up behaving theirself too. They done got the living daylights beat out of them, murder the man. Get on out. We've got the black Muslims. We don't care where you come from. Buddhists and everything else. You just have to go down. You can't take it. Somebody always has to say, 'look, he don't know me.' Yes, I do, don't you tell me, I know everybody, I been everywhere and seen everybody. I know you, who do you think you are. Somebody say, 'well, who do you think you are?' That little black knappy headed, round shouldered, hump backed, ugly.., trying to say something bitter. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)
Let me tell you something about that stuff you talking about. Let me, let me tell you something about that stuff. All you have to do, just keep coming round. Just keep coming around. And finally by and by, we'll get you sitting in your place and you'll be glad that you did. And then children, let me tell you this. You will be happy. All of the wars, and the pestilence, and famine and it's between the blacks and the whites, and the reds and the yellows, and all of the strife and confusion that's going on on the world. Here you are happy thankful, just happy; and every last one of you oughta be shouting happy, that amid all this confusion, all of this religious deception, and nothing gonna do you no good. While it's just reading around in the Bible or out of it, that ain't, that ain't gonna help you none. What you have to have, you have to have the Holy Spirit in you. Eating crackers, and drinking grape juice, and setting around some place, calling yourself keeping the sabbath day and all that kinda... That's not gonna help you, Wallace. You just have to have something. They come along and tell you the white folks have got to love the black folks; and the black folks to love... That ain't no way to nobody ____ nothing like that. You have to have something there. And you got to make sure that it's there. Just how you know that you've passed from life unto death? Said, 'Because I've read the Bible.'
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: 'I belong to church.' No. When you love the brethren. Don't nobody have to ask you nothing. You don't have to testify to nothing. You can tell within yourself. Somebody said, 'Well, how am I doing?' I'll ask you, do you love the brethren?13 Never mind, never mind. Don't need no testimony. You can answer that one for yourself. Now, when you get around to the place where you love the brethren, the devil's hold will not make you do that. Let's go now.
(STUDENT BODY APPLAUDS)
13 1 John 3:14
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