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5) * SEPTEMBER 26,1965: *


by Dr. Henry C. Kinley

Los Angeles, California

originally recorded by Burbank Mitchell on reel to reel tape recorder

transferred to audio cassette by Gerry Rothstein

1 90 minute audio cassette

Catalog Number: 65.0926


originally transcribed by Greg Prestas

originally proofread by Gerry Rothstein



first proofreading: Mary Colucci

second proofreading: Michael Rothstein

third proofreading: Susan Ameigh

fourth proofreading: Gerry Rothstein

fifth proofreading: International Public Relations Committee

approved by the International Public Relations Committee: 1997


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First Speaker:  Dr. Dewey McCoy.

Moderator:  At this time, the founder and dean of the school, Dr. Henry C. Kinley.

Dr. Kinley:  Thank you very much.  Friends, I don’t want to preach a great long sermon to you this morning.  You’ve already heard the gospel expressed in its simplicity.  I’ve just simply got to confirm ____ and to admonish and encourage you to come out to school the nights and the Sundays and times that we have an opportunity to hear the gospel preached in its simplicity and in its reality.  Now you can’t afford, with what is going on in the world today, you can not afford to miss these meetings.  Just can’t afford it, because Jesus said, this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world or in all of this age, down through these 2000 years; the gospel of the kingdom.  Now with all the confusion that there is in the world…  Now this is biblical proof for it to be here.  If it wasn’t here the Bible wouldn’t be right.  Paul said, perilous times shall come in the last days.  And Jesus, He talked about many false prophets, not a few, just many of ‘em, and there’s many of ‘em out here.

Now, I’m saying to you in the year 1931 God have me a vision and revelation.  This is my 34th year that I have been preaching, and teaching, and showing you by illustration, by charts, and by nature itself, and by yourself even now ____, every kinda way to confirm the existence of God.  Now, I went into it chronologically, allegorically, figuratively, symbolically, metaphorically, political; I, I went into it every kinda way you can go into it.  And then I say nobody, now in 34 years I’ve met some of the most brilliant academically trained men there is in this country, and nobody has ever been able to refute this and to dispute it.  Now there’s a lotta people that don’t understand it.

I noticed Dr. McCoy, how hard he struggled here and I’m just as sure as I was sitting on that seat that somebody didn’t understand many of the ramifications and all that he was trying to bring out there about many things.  Why he had a great big mouthful to chew there, and he was trying to chew it by a definite pattern; showing the purpose of God through the dispensations and ages and how it repeated itself over and over again.  Then not only that, he took you to show you that you yourself was made in the likeness and image of God.  And he tried to show every kind of way, mathematically, chronologically…  Now look, now listen, now, unless you know it this way, you can’t have no faith.  How can you have faith and confidence in something you don’t know nothing about?  That’s a physical and mental impossibility.  Now, just getting up talking about God, and talking about the devil, and talking about Moses, and talking about Jesus, and so forth and so on like that, they do that all over the world, but when it comes to showing the purpose of God, and how it, it is carried out and how it functions through the dispensations and ages, now then the devil don’t understand that.  Now, you’re gonna have to understand that before you can see any reality.

Now, I, I’m go…  I wanna mention this too, while I’m on my feet.  Now, as Dr. McCoy went through this, talked about Israel coming out of Egypt, putting the blood on the sides and the lentil of the door, and passing through the waters of the Red Sea, and then they went into the wilderness and they stayed there 40 days, 40 years, 40 days, I meant 40 days or 40 years; one day for a year in prophetic time.  You have to understand that, too.  That’s Numbers, what?

Student Body:  14:34

Dr.  Kinley:  14:34, and Ezekiel.  It’s got to be confirmed by the Law and by the prophets.  Now then, when you read over here in Matthew, over here in Matthew, I’m just trying to show you how it is, when you read over here in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, about Jesus did this and Jesus did that and Jesus did the other, and so forth and so on, now just reading it without any understanding; that don’t make, that don’t, that won’t help you a bit; in other words that will just confuse you.  For example, He was, fed the multitudes.  Well, what did He feed ‘em for?  Then He went on up there in the mountain.  What did He do that for?  Then He went up to the temple.  What did He do that for?  Then He left the temple and said, now there was a house that’s left unto you desolate.  Then He went on to say, you shall not see me henceforth until you say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.  What did He do that for?  Now, we’re not arguing around about He didn’t do this and that and the other, whereas the Bible says He did it all.  That’s not the argument.  The argument is, is what did He do that for?  Why?  Somebody said, ‘Well, He’s setting up for ____ ____ ____.’  No.  I beg your pardon.  He wasn’t setting up nothing.  Now that’s what Rome is telling you.  And they’re out now trying to find out whether now some holiness transubstantiation, trans – sub – stan – tiation, that means the Lord’s supper, to you that don’t understand, and they’ll go down to Matthew and then say, ‘He did this this way and He did that and He took up the chalice and He broke the bread,’ and so forth and so on.  Now listen, don’t wanna argue about that.  He did do that.  Then they said, ‘He instituted it.’  Oh no.  Did no such a thing, unless He don’t know what He’s talking about.  Wanna charge Him with being ignorant, too.  Listen folks, what He was doing all the time that He was in the world from the time that He was born on clear on until He left out of the world, He was fulfilling what was in the Law and in the Prophesy, not instituting nothing.  And that’s a fact.  He wasn’t setting no example for you to go by.

Somebody says, ‘Well, look here ____, I wanna follow in the footsteps of Christ.’  Now, heaven was searched and earth was searched, wasn’t nobody able to do that. (DR. KINLEY AND STUDENT BODY LAUGH)


Dr. Kinley:  Somebody says, ‘Now listen here, aren’t you one of these negro leaders?’.  No, I beg your pardon, I’m not a negro leader.  No, not by any means.  I come into the world to preach the gospel to everybody, not just a bunch of negroes. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) I’m just giving it to you straight like it is.

Somebody says, ‘Well, you wouldn’t understand, you let your race down.’  No, I beg your pardon.  I don’t belong to this thing down here that you’re talking about.  I belong to the heavenly.  Abraham, he went, walked the length and breadth of Canaan’s land, crossways, and backwards, and forwards, and he had this testimony:  that he was looking for a country whose founder and maker or builder was God.  And he didn’t so much as set his foot on the promised land.  There’s nothing in the world that’s important to me, not in this one.

Then somebody said, ‘Well, look here,’ said, ‘I’m not going down there Tuesday and Thursday night, all they’re gonna talk about is that pattern, that tabernacle anyhow.’  Said, ‘I’m going out this Friday night.  That’s pay night.  I’m going to go and get my groceries.’  I almost know each and every one of you, (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) I almost know you.  That’s the point ____.  Now, you run along down there, it’s all right for you to be there cause you’re learned.  ‘I’ve already learned that.  I’m up to date.’  Said, ‘I’m tired of ‘em reading over there, talking about going to the Law and to the Testimony, if they speak not according to this route it’s because there is no light…  I’m sick and tired of hearing about Moses coming out of Egypt, and being baptized in the Red Sea and passing on into the wilderness, and staying in there 40 years, and Joshua’s picking ‘em up and carrying them on across river Jordan and into Canaan’s land.  I’m sick and tired of it!’  Said, ‘I want you to read sometime to me out of the New Testament.’  Alright now you won’t let me read over there in what you call the Old Testament.  Tried to read about, that what’s in the Old Testament over here in what you call the New Testament.  Now here’s John on the island of Patmos, 21st chapter of Revelation, that oughta be far enough over into it, don’t you think so.  The 21st chapter of Revelation. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Read a little bit out of that ____ ____ ____ mercy.  I just wanna show you how stupid we are.  Think we’re smart.

Reader:  And I saw a new heaven

Dr. Kinley:  And I saw a new heaven

Reader:  and a new earth

Dr. Kinley:  and a new earth

Reader:  for the first heaven

Dr. Kinley:  for the first heaven

Reader:  and the first earth was passed away

Dr. Kinley:  and the first earth was passed away

Reader:  and there was no more sea

Dr. Kinley:  and there was no more sea

Reader:  And I, John

Dr. Kinley:  And I, John

Reader:  saw the Holy City

Dr. Kinley:  saw the Holy City, New Jerusalem

Reader:  coming down from God out of heaven

Dr. Kinley:  coming down from God out of heaven

Reader:  prepared as a bride adorned for her husband

Dr. Kinley:  prepared as a bride adorned for her husband

Reader:  And I heard a great voice out of heaven

Dr. Kinley:  And I heard a great voice out of heaven

Reader:  saying

Dr. Kinley:  saying

Reader:  Behold

Dr. Kinley:  Behold

Reader:  the tabernacle of God

Dr. Kinley:  Oh no, man ____.  What’s the matter with you?  See the point?  Behold, tabernacle of God is with men.  Read.

Reader:  and he will dwell with them

Dr. Kinley:  and he will dwell with them

Reader:  and they shall be his people

Dr. Kinley:  and they shall be his people

Reader:  and God shall be with them

Dr. Kinley:  and God shall be with them

Reader:  and be their God

Dr. Kinley:  And be their God.  Hold it.  Now, if you understood what you were reading…  You just started back there in the 21st chapter.  Now, there’s John out there on the Isle of Patmos, confirming this that was back here, and he said, ‘I John saw a new heaven and a new earth.’  Then he went on to talk about that the first heaven and the first earth were passed away, and there was no more sea.  Don’t you see John’s life was prepared to be on the isle?  When you say isle, that means it wa.., a island’s surrounded by water.  Is that what it is?  Then if that’s true, then don’t you see that Moses back here, didn’t he see the earth surrounded by water in the beginning of his vision?  Didn’t he see the waters pass up?  Wasn’t standing up by no Moses, was it?  God divided the waters above from the waters beneath and let the dry land appear.  Now John’s life was preserved to be on the Isle of Patmos.  Couldn’t be killed, couldn’t die.  And listen, the Catholics said, ‘Don’t ____ ____, banish him to the Isle of Patmos.’  I beg your pardon.  Now, we’re not trying to set up no human possibilities, figure out nothing.  Now then, he’s looking down and he sees Israel here coming out of Egypt, and then he sees ‘em pass through the Red Sea, and he said the first heaven and the first earth were passed away and there was no more sea.

Now, this is the 21st chapter of Revelation.  You don’t want me reading it over yonder.  And what it all amounts to is nothing else but just the purpose of God just repeating itself over and over through the dispensations and ages.  That’s what’s going on now, nothing else but a repetition.  The end was declared from the beginning, there’s nothing new under the sun.  Takes that to, for God to prove Himself.

Then he said, he heard a voice from heaven saying.  Wasn’t Moses up here in, this taberna…  up here in this mountain?  Was, wasn’t he up there?

Student Body:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  If Jesus gotta fulfill all these things, don’t you see He’s got to go up in a mountain somewhere?  And if God fed them people down there before, 6 days before they went up, can’t you see that if He’s gonna fulfill it, He’s got to feed the multitudes?  If there was a passover down in Egypt and they ate lamb down in Egypt, now if He’s gonna, if, if He’s gonna come, now this is where the thing is instituting here, He’s got to come along and He’s got to eat the passover.  And you going in the 26th chapter of Matthew and arguing with me about whether He did or not.  You and your stupidity:  you said it was the New Testament.  The New Testament is not written with pen and ink.  The first Testament or the first Covenant was written on tables of stone.  The New Testament, Matt…  God said in Jeremiah 31:31, said after those days into their hearts will I put my law and I’ll do the writing, not Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, what God wrote in the tables of stone with His finger.

Now, we’re trying to tell you about the reality of God.  We’re not playing church.  We don’t claim to be building no church, and we’re not trying to get the thing together either.  Ecumenical Council gathering them all back together.  Coming over here, the Pope coming over here the 4th of October to speak to the U.N.  Now, you look down in your Bible and you don’t know what it’s all about.  Way over yonder in Jerusalem.  You’re reading about it all in your Bible and you haven’t got, you don’t know nothing about it; timing or nothing else.  They’re just stupid as they can be.  Don’t understand fulfillment of prophecy any more so they understand what Jesus was doing.  They’re talking about Him instituting, the first tabernacle stood only in meats, and drinks, and di.., are you listening at me?  Diverse washings, and carnal ordinances.  When.., they don’t even know what carnal ordinance is.  Carnal ordinance means a worldly thing, it means a physical, it means a material, not spiritual.  And that’s all that Israel had back here.  That was under the first Covenant.  Now all that had to be removed before you could get into the new Covenant, or the New Testament, and God said He wasn’t going to make one like He did the one before.  So what are you worrying around about how He did this and that and the other, whether He washed feet and did this, that, and the other?  He did many things that you don’t have no record of in your Book in the fulfillment of the Law and in the Prophets, so that you could come out there and sit down and look at it, and read it, and understand and comprehend that we’re in the spirit of the thing now.

Now somebody’s saying, ‘Well, I expect Him pretty soon to jump down through the clouds.’  Well do you know the Seventh Day Adventists thought that He’d jump out of the sky in 1844, and when it didn’t happen they said, ‘Well, we made an awful mistake here,’ said, ‘instead of Him coming out of a, a, a Most Holy Place, or coming down through the clouds, He was just entering in and out of the Holy Place into the Most Holy Place.’  So they had to change their story.  Jehovah’s Witnesses said, ‘No, we disagree with that.’  God said He would punish ‘em seven times over here in the, in the Canaan’s land if they didn’t obey Him and keep His commandments.  They said the time of the Gentiles begin in 606 BC.  And you figure 2520 years or seven times 360, and you got 1914, and they said that Christ come in 1914.  Don’t start no arguments with me, I’m well read.  Said He’d come in 1914.  Now if you look in your Book, the fourth chapter of the first epistle of John, you’ll find that Christ is a quickening spirit, and He never come in no 1914.  They just don’t understand what it’s all about.  Confused.  Until you read over here, reading on in the Bible said Christ in you is your only hope; Paul said, Christ in you is the only hope of glory.  It says here in the first epistle of John, fourth chapter, Beloved, believe not every spirit, every spirit that testifies that Jesus Christ is come, is come, that’s present tense.  Is that somewhere near right?  Every spirit that testifies that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh…  God has poured His spirit out on you.  And Dr. McCoy said on the Day of Pentecost, which was the sixth day of June, AD 33, very early in the morning, about nine o’clock in the morning.  We know when the thing happened, and that wasn’t in 1844, and it wasn’t in 1914.  Quickening spirit.

And everyone that’s born of the spirit, he’s not dib dabbling around with the things that’s done under the law.  John out there on the Isle of Patmos said, ‘I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away, and there was no more sea.  And I, John, heard a voice from heaven saying, behold the taber…’  Now that’s far enough over in what you call the New Testament.  He talked about the Red Sea.  That’s nothing but a confirmation and a repetition.  The first heaven and the first earth:  There’s three heavens:  first, second, and third.  Paul said, I knew a man, about 14 years ago who was exalted up to the third heaven, heard things impossible for a man to utter.  Alright.  Now the first heaven and the first earth were passed away and there was no more sea.

You’re reading in Revelation.  Revelation means the thing’s revealed.  Alright now, then after that he said, there in the 22nd chapter..  We are getting over clear on over in the back end of your book.  If the thing don’t work from back to back, or from Genesis to Reve.., it ain’t no good.  It ain’t no good.  Alright now.

Then you said that Joshua picked them up and carried ‘em on across the river Jordan into Canaan’s land.  Well now read the 22nd chapter of Revelation.

Reader:  And he showed me a pure river of water of life,

Dr. Kinley:  Then he showed me a pure river of water of life,

Reader:  clear as crystal

Dr. Kinley:  clear as a crystal

Reader:  proceeding out of the throne of God

Dr. Kinley:  Now wait a minute, you got a river there.  Right?  Now you had a sea here, now you got a river flowing out from the throne of God.  Alright read on.

Reader:  In the midst of the street of it

Dr. Kinley:  In the midst, or in the middle of the street

Reader:  and on either side of the river

Dr. Kinley:  and on either side of the river

Reader:  was there the tree of life

Dr. Kinley:  was there the tree of life.  On either side of the river was the tree of life.  Look, don’t you see we’re in the flesh down here just like Israel was down there?  Don’t you see that?  Don’t you see the tabernacle down here with them?  God told Moses to build the tabernacle that I might dwell among my people.  That’s in the wilderness.  That’s on this side of the river Jordan.  Then when you crossed on through and went on through the River Jordan and went on into heaven or the third heaven itself, there’s another building, not made with hands, not transportable; eternal in the heavens.  So on either side of the river was the tree of life.  You just don’t know what it’s all about.  You’ve got to find a convenient way.  You haven’t got time to come down here and find out about it.  Now this purpose has got to work.  It’s got to work all through, all through these dispensations and ages.

Can I say one more thing?  It’s almost necessary.  I, I wanna make it two.  In the second chapter of second Thessalonians Paul said, now that day when the revelation of Jesus Christ from heaven.  Truthfully it is not Jesus Christ.  It’s Yahshua the Messiah.  That’s the correct name.  Paul didn’t even know nothing about a Jesus Christ.  You don’t let nobody tell you nothing and you won’t look around to see nothing.  That’s interpolation in your Bible.  Justus Christus is a Hindu idol from India.  Oh no, no need to argue about it.  That’s what it is.  That’s a sun god.  Yahshua the Messiah.  Immanuel.  Those are the true names.  You’re running around here hollering about, ‘You preaching this and you preaching that and you preaching the other.’  You don’t know what you’re doing.  You won’t let nobody tell you nothing.

Paul said there in the second chapter of Revelation, not Revelation but the second chapter of second Thessalonians, now they didn’t understand the first letter he wrote to them, so then he writes back again, said, ‘Now that day shall not come…’  Read.

Reader:  Now we beseech thee brethren

Dr. Kinley:  Now we beseech you, now we are begging you.  For your own good we are begging you.  Alright read.

Reader:  by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ

Dr. Kinley:  by the coming of our Lord, Jesus

Reader:  and by our gathering together unto him

Dr. Kinley:  and by our assembling ourselves together, that ye…  Read.

Reader:  that ye be not soon shaken in mind

Dr. Kinley:  That you.  Now look all these false prophets and hypocrites, they’re going out there but don’t get shook up.  Don’t even let us shake you up about something you don’t understand in an epistle.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  or be troubled

Dr. Kinley:  or be troubled

Reader:  neither by spirit

Dr. Kinley:  neither by spirit

Reader:  nor by word

Dr. Kinley:  nor by word

Reader:  nor by letter as from us

Dr. Kinley:  Now if you didn’t understand the first epistle, don’t get all worked up.  Tenth chapter, 17th chapter of Acts of Apostles and the 10th verse said them that were sent as Thessalonicans, they were not so noble as those at Berea.  So they didn’t understand.  He said don’t get shook up by it.  And so he wrote the second letter, said that.  Alright, read on.  Now you listen at it.  Read.

Reader:  as that the day of Christ is at hand

Dr. Kinley:  That the day of Christ is at hand.  Read on, I’m in a hurry.

Reader:  Let no man deceive you by any means:

Dr. Kinley:  Now, don’t you let nobody from nowhere deceive you by any means.  Paul said though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than that which we have already preached let him be accursed.  We don’t care whether he come from the Vatican, or drop down from heaven.  It don’t make no difference.  Christ resurrected and went to hell and preached deliverance to the captives in distress, so we don’t care where you come from, Heaven, hell or…, preach any other gospel to you than that which we’ve already preached, let him be an anathema.  Don’t make him one, just let him go on ahead and be that.  Alright, read.

Reader:  for that day shall not come,

Dr. Kinley:  Now that day shall not come.  We don’t care what Jehovah’s Witnesses said about it; we don’t care what the Seventh Day Adventists said about it; we don’t care what nobody said about it.  That day shall not come

Reader:  except there come a failing away first,

Dr. Kinley:  Except there come a falling away first.  See all of this confusion and stuff that you getting out here…  When Jesus come in the end of that age, the Postdiluvian, look at the falling away.  You had the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the scribes, the Essenes, the Nicolaitians, and the Nazarenes.  All of them had fell away from the law of Moses when He come in the flesh so now we find it revealed in the scriptures.  Paul looking back at it, he said, ‘And that day shall not come except there come a falling away first.’  And then what?

Reader:  and that man of sin be revealed

Dr. Kinley:  Now it didn’t say them men, said that man.  Says ole Lucifer, the devil, that man.  Adjective.  That man of sin be revealed.  Alright read.

Reader:  the son of perdition

Dr. Kinley:  The son of perdition.  Now look, if Jesus come on, he chose 12, and one of ‘em was a devil right straight from the beginning.  So it’s got to fit in here at the close of this one; in other words the close of these ages.  There’s got, there’s nothing but a repetition.  That man of sin, that man, that devil, that Christ.  You’re looking for the Son of Righteousness to be revealed, ain’t you Roger?  What’s the matter with the son of perdition?  You just, you gonna go to sleep and go ahead on.  Alright read.

Reader:  who opposeth

Dr. Kinley:  who opposeth and exalts himself

Reader:  above all that is called God

Dr. Kinley:  above all that is called God

Reader:  or that is worshipped

Dr. Kinley:  Now wait a minute.  Said, ‘He opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.’  Is that what you got there?  How’s he opposing?  Jesus said, ‘Please, don’t think that I come to destroy the Law and Prophets.  I come to fulfill.’  He said, ‘Nah, it’s not like that.  He come to institute.’  He opposes Him.  He’s got foot washing and all them old carnal ordinances that was under the dispensation of the law that God never give to a Gentile in the first place.  Here he comes dragging it over here:  washing feet and all them kinda things.  That has to come, that man of sin, that son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is worshipped and all that is called God so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God.

Don’t you know your body is the temple of God?  Says, you got to know your body is the temple.  Paul said in the sixth chapter of first Corinthians, 19th verse, ‘Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which temple you are?’.  God has got to be in every man, for in Him we live, and we move, and we have our being.  That don’t mean that you’re conscious of it, but He’s there just the same.  That’s one reason why we don’t invite Him into our meetings, He’s already here. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) ____ ____ try to take over and make it what it ought to be, now he’s done that, and we try to find out about it.  Now then, he’s sitting over there in the Vatican, in this temple and sitting over there in the Vatican.  You see that, Williams?  Read.

Reader:  Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you

Dr. Kinley:  Don’t you remember when I was up there at Thessalonica in person, I told you these things?  Alright.

Reader:  And now you know what withholdeth

Dr. Kinley:  And now you know what withholdeth

Reader:  that he might be revealed in his time.

Dr. Kinley:  Now, he’s got to be revealed in his time.  He’s got to be revealed in his time.  You know Judas followed Christ around for 3½ years?  And on top of it all he carried the records too.  At the Passover that night, He said, one of you shall betray Me.  ____ ____ had the seats all arranged too.  ____ ____ Satan is always present.  There he was as near as that, sopping right in the dish with Him.  The prophet hath said he that soppeth in the dish with me hath lifted up his heel against me.  Judas had to be setting right there, sopping right in the dish with Him.  He said, now whatsoever you do, do it quick.  Better hurry with the thing now, for My hour is come.  And so the supper being ended He rose up and washed the disciples feet, sang a hymn.  What did He sing a hymn for?  You all be reading and you don’t know what it’s all about.  The reason why He sang a hymn, was because when the Children of Israel came out of here and then they crossed over the Red Sea after the Passover.  He is fulfilling.  He crossed over the Brook Kedron and entered into the Garden of Gethsemane and then they all rose up and sang a hymn.  That was a song of victory.  He said, rise and let us go.  Where’s He going?  I’m going out into the garden of a.., Where?

Student Body:  Gethsemane

Dr. Kinley:  What’s He going out here for?  Don’t you see this thing happened back there in the Garden of Eden?  Read it with some understanding.  He’s fulfilling these things.  And while He was out there in the Garden of Eden, old Judas up yonder denied Him for 30 pieces of silver.  I don’t have time to go into it, didn’t want to preach no great long sermon to you.  That’s what Dr. McCoy was trying to do.  And since it’s your first time to hear these things, why then you don’t understand them.

Then you think you’re coming down here, doing what you call paying us a visit.  No, you’re trying to save your soul.  Ain’t paying nobody no visit.  You think it’s some kinda accommodation to me for you to come down here.  No, it’s your duty to search, search and investigate to try and find out something about God because if you don’t you’re gonna be lost.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  For the mystery of iniquity

Dr. Kinley:  For the mystery of iniquity

Reader:  doth already work

Dr. Kinley:  Don’t you know there are two mysteries?  The mystery of iniquity and the mystery of God.  Paul said the mystery of iniquity doth already work.  It was working back there in the apostolic days.  They had ____ ____ and adversary just like Christ had one, Judas.  I don’t have time to go into all of this.  The mystery of iniquity already working.  Alright read.

Reader:  only he who now letteth will let

Dr. Kinley:  Only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way.  And then shall that wicked be revealed.  He ain’t reading fast enough.  The problem is I want to get to the 13th chapter of Revelation and I want you to see this. 13th chapter of Revelation.  Now he was talking about that man of sin, he’s gonna be revealed, the son of perdition, who opposed and exalteth himself above all that is called God, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.  And only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way.  Then shall that wicked be revealed.  Is that what you got in your Book?  Oh yes indeed, we know what’s in there.  Yes siree.  Alright read.

Reader:  Here is wisdom.

Dr. Kinley:  Now here is wisdom.  Now you’re smart, you’re all smartened up.  Now wait a minute.  No, you’re smart.  Now here is wisdom.  This is it.  Take the first verse.

Reader:  And I stood upon the sand of the sea

Dr. Kinley:  Now John said, ‘I stood upon the sands of the sea.’ What?

Reader:  and saw a beast rise up out of the sea

Dr. Kinley:  and saw a beast rise up out of the sea

Reader:  having seven heads and 10 horns

Dr. Kinley:  having seven heads and 10 horns

Reader:  and above his horns 10 crowns

Dr. Kinley:  and above his horns 10 crowns

Reader:  and upon his heads the name of blasphemy

Dr. Kinley:  Upon his heads the name of blasphemy.  The name of blasphemy.  Say look, Doc.  Let me tell you something.  Understand this.  Get this understood.  Now if Christ, God has sent Him into the world to fulfill this law and this prophecy and to move the natural things out of the way, which are typical of the spirit.  That means this present dispensation.  If you say, if you come up here doing what they’re doing, Protestants and Catholics, you are blaspheming against God.  You are denying that God has nailed those carnal ordinances to the cross.  And Protestantism and Catholicism is denying that He has the power to move it.  They’re saying He instituted when He fulfilled.  I’m giving it to you straight.  You can’t fix it.  Alright, repeat what you just read.

Reader:  And I, and I stood upon the sand of the sea

Dr. Kinley:  And I stood upon the sand of the sea

Reader:  and saw a beast rise up out of the sea

Dr. Kinley:  saw a beast rise up out of the sea.  Wait a minute.  Hey, listen, folks.  Can’t you stand back there and see that Moses, John was looking back there and seeing Pharaoh drowning in the Red Sea, and his body washed ashore and they sang the song of victory and a beast rise up out of the sea?  And man without the spirit of God is just like a natural brute beast.  John ain’t doing nothing but confirming everything ____ ____ out of the multitude.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  having seven heads

Dr. Kinley:  having seven heads

Reader:  and 10 horns

Dr. Kinley:  and 10 horns.  I ain’t got time to go into them three kingdoms.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  and upon his horns 10 crowns

Dr. Kinley:  and upon his horns 10 crowns

Reader:  and upon the head, the name of blasphemy.

Dr. Kinley:  And upon the head, head, name of blasphemy.  Every one of them lying bastards is blaspheming against God.  Said, ‘You called that man a bastard.’  Anytime you won’t receive chastisement from God Himself, then you’re a bastard, and not a son.  The son of perdition.  And so I said ‘lying bastards.’  That’s what Satan was from the very beginning.  ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Yes indeed, that’s what’ll get you.  So he’s got on his head the name of blasphemy.  Read.

Reader:  And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard

Dr. Kinley:  And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard

Reader:  and his feet were as the feet of a bear

Dr. Kinley:  Now look here.  Anybody knows, any stupid idiot from anywhere knows that you can take a leopard, and you can’t wash them spots off of it.  You get all the dust cleanser and detergent you can find, it’s just natural for them to be there.  A carnal mind is like unto a leopard.  He’s spotted.  ____ too and that’s, thems the beast that Peter is talking about over there in the second epistle to the Israelites.  And Jude is talking about it.  They’re just natural brute beasts.  They allure with great swelling words:  talk about transubstantiation and gotta whole bunch of longwinded words that they don’t understand themselves.  So they said that.  Peter said that they are lured through the flesh.  Got their garments and all, don’t let it be the outer garments, let it be the inner.  You hear about a great big cross up down his back, singing the song ‘Jesus keep me near the cross.’  You want to get clear away from that ‘You’re welcome to that, but not the cross.’  Yes sir.  Great big steeple up on top of the thing and a cross up on top of it and everybody in it’s dead.  That’s right.  Yes indeed, we’re talking about the resurrection in this.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  and his feet were as the feet of a bear

Dr. Kinley:  And his feet were as the feet of a bear.  Now I ain’t got time to go into that, but you know how a bear’s claws are.  But we’re going into it.  Read on.

Reader:  and his mouth as the mouth of a lion

Dr. Kinley:  And his mouth as the mouth of a lion.  RROOOAAARRR.

RRROOOAAARRR.  Roaring around.  Peter said he was a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.  That’s what they’re doing now, trying to get somebody back, so they say, back into the Roman Catholic Church.  I beg your pardon, you’re already in it:  in confusion.  That’s Babylon.  And Protestantism, they ain’t out of it, they’re in confusion.  Alright, read.

Reader:  and the dragon gave him his power

Dr. Kinley:  And the dragon gave him his power; in other words, pagan Rome give papal Rome its power.  Now, that’s all in history.  And his seat, and his great authority.  Is that something like what you got in your Book?  I know what’s in there, too.  This is not a Bible reading contest.  This is to understand what you’re reading.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  And I saw one of his heads, as it were, wounded to death and his deadly wound was healed

Dr. Kinley:  Uh, uh.

Reader:  and all the world wondered after the beast

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen.  Are you listening folks?  Are you listening?  Said all the world wondered after the beast.  Finish out that last statement.  Right there.  All the world wondered after the beast.

Reader:  and all the world wondered after the beast.  And they worshipped the dragon that gave power unto the beast

Dr. Kinley:  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast

Reader:  and they worshipped the beast, saying,

Dr. Kinley:  and they worshipped beast, saying,

Reader:  who is like unto the beast?

Dr. Kinley:  who is like unto the beast?

Reader:  and who is able to make war with him?

Dr. Kinley:  and who is able to make war with him?

Reader:  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things

Dr. Kinley:  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great swelling things.

Reader:  blasphemies

Dr. Kinley:  blasphemies

Reader:  and power was given unto him

Dr. Kinley:  and power was given unto him

Reader:  to continue 40 and 2 months.


Dr. Kinley:  Power was given unto him to continue 40 and 2 months.  That’s 1260 years.  ____ ____ A.D. 33.  Forty and two months in prophetic time is 1260 years.  Power was given from the dragon to the beast, from paganism to papalism.  And said ‘Now who is able to make war with the beast?’  He stood upon the sands of the sea and saw this beast rise out of the sea having heads and horns, and the Roman Empire was first broken down into 10 kingdoms.  I said I didn’t have time to go into it.

And now, here this beast has rose up out of the sea, or out of the multitudes, and then he’s going forth on the breadth of the earth, and you don’t have no knowledge of it, you have no understanding, no parts of it.  Then he said that after the thousand years was finished he’d be loosed out of his prison for a little season; After the thousand years Satan loosed out of his prison for a little season.  You know, just as well as I do, that the pope has been bound up in that Vatican over there for better than a thousand years and none of them, Pope Paul was the first one that ever did leave.  Satan is called the prince of the power of the air and when he come out of there, air borne, ‘Where you going?’  Going right back and retrace the steps of Jesus Christ in the dust over there in the Holy Land, showing that he is Christ.  He’s blessing this and he’s blessing that, he’s doing this, and he’s doing that.  Everybody’s saying, ‘Now who’s like him?’  He’s head of the Christian Church.  Rome is the head of it.  Now these things have got to come to pass.  Now you sit down and sleep and snore and carry on.

We said that 50 countries have representatives at the Vatican, and the Vatican is an independent state, just like the United States of America.  Mussolini gave it back to him in 1929 when Victor Emmanuel took it away from him.  They’re cussing Victor Emmanuel with everything they can lay on him.  They gave it back.  Then he come out of there and went to Jerusalem.  Talking about him being revealed in his time.  Can’t you see?  You are right down in the end of this age.  These things have got to be repeated just like when Jesus was here.  You set up there and read and read never realizing.  You won’t let nobody tell you.  The market basket or something for your belly is more important and you coming down to find something out about it.

Fifty nations have representatives at the Vatican.  The Vatican is an independent state.  Somebody went on to work and elected John F. Kennedy to be president of the United States of America, and according to the constitution why then you should be committed and stand to the principles embodied in the constitution of the United States of America and stand for religious liberty and freedom.  Well, he couldn’t do that.  Why?  Because his allegiance is pledged to Rome, an independent state.  There won’t be no arguing about it.  Then over there in Revelation, you got that the beast went upon the breadth of the earth compassed the camp of the saints and the beloved city, beloved city, Gog and Magog.  What for?  To gather together to battle against the great day of God Almighty.  Don’t you see that man coming over here and they’ll speak to the United Nations?  Went forth to all the nations of the earth to gather together to battle against the great day of God Almighty.

There you are come down to the close of this present age, the time for the revelation of Jesus Christ from heaven to take place.  Here you are standing around dumb, stupid, and ignorant.  Come here on October the fourth, October the fifth this year, when generally October the 10th is the Day of Atonement.  In the Jewish account, it comes, it falls, on the, the fifth this year.  The Day of Atonement, when the blood of Jesus Christ…  The pope, here he is over here trying to, trying to gather his people together, going upon the breadth of the earth, to gather together to battle against the great day of God Almighty.  We’re telling you, ‘Come on down folks, come on down.’  We don’t care nothing about nobody.  Just preaching them down.  Go to jail or the cemetery or any place folks.  We don’t care.  I don’t count my life dear.  And I’m not trying to agree with anybody either.  Read on.

Reader:  And he opened his mouth

Dr. Kinley:  And he opened his mouth

Reader:  in blasphemy

Dr. Kinley:  in blasphemy

Reader:  against God

Dr. Kinley:  against God

Reader:  and to blaspheme His name

Dr. Kinley:  he blasphemed His name.

Reader:  and His tabernacle

Dr. Kinley:  and His tabernacle

Reader:  and them that dwell in heaven

Dr. Kinley:  and them that dwell in heaven

Reader:  and it was given unto him…

Dr. Kinley:  Wait a minute.  Blasphemed them that dwell in heaven, blasphemed his name.  I’m telling you…

I told you I didn’t wanna preach, but I just can’t stand to see you sit around stupid, sound asleep, counting so many other things much more important:  progress, and getting ahead in the world.  No that ain’t what you want, you wanna get out of it.  You’re going to get out of it whether you want to or not because this is going to be burnt up:  that penthouse, and Cadillac, and everything else.  Somebody said, ‘Well, I don’t believe that.  You know Solomon says,’ that’s what the Jehovah’s Witnesses say, ‘Solomon said one generation goes and another cometh but the earth abideth forever.’  Did you ever look back at Genesis 8:22 and see what it says there?  That seed time and harvest, day and night, summer and winter, shall not pass as long as the earth remains.  That’s as long as the earth remains, but it won’t remain.  Jesus said that heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall not pass.  How do you know that?  Well, it passed in in a flame, passed in that burning cloud.  Moses saw the vision in there, sure enough saw it at Mount Sinai, the creation of the heavens and the earth in that flame in that cloud.  Israel at the foot of that mountain said that cloud was like a consuming fire.  He saw the vision of it coming in and Peter looked back there said it’ll go out just like it come in.  So all these things will be consumed and dissolved and He’s going to create a new heaven and a new earth.  So now, ain’t no need you wasting your time fooling around here and loosing your souls trying to get into the real estate business and build up penthouses.  It’s too late for that.  If you ain’t got nothing now it’s a little late.  And if you have got something it won’t help you none, neither.  You gotta come down here and try to find out something about it.  What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?  It profits you nothing.  When you see these things coming to pass.  You’re reading it in the papers, newspapers, and you’re seeing it on TV, television and all them different kind of things.

John says in the 16th chapter of Revelation, says these are the spirits of devils which go forth to the kings of the earth.  And now you see what the appeal is to the U.N. over here, and what they’re doing.  They’re not preaching the gospel by faith.  God promised to bless you children, not on the strength of you doing nothing.  Jesus done the work.  The prophecy says, are you listening, ‘Behold you despisers, wonder and perish, I’ll work a work in your days that you shall not believe though a man declare it unto you.’  Now, when He come He sweat it out, He did the works.  And Isaiah says, it’s by His stripes you are healed.  And God promised, listen, God promised that if you would believe, if you would believe in the sacrifice that He gave…  We read that God so loved the world, John 3:19, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.  That’s a great big job.  Jesus said, are you listening, Jesus said, this is the work, this is the work, that you believe on Him that sent Me.  Now how can he hear without a preacher, and how can he preach, except he be sent?  Faith comes by hearing and that by the Word of God.  Until such time as you see how it’s put together, you can’t have no faith.  You don’t know where to cut the Bible.  So now, come on dow.., come on down here.  And as Dr. McCoy says, hold our arms up.

Somebody said, ‘Well now, how do you get into that service?’  Right through that door.  You’re as welcome here as anybody else.  You come right in and sit.  You’re born in the Kingdom of God.  And folks, Jesus said, ‘No man goeth unto the Father but by Me.’  So you come right here, and that’s the sacrifice, and if you believe on Him then God promised to bless you, to give you the Holy Spirit, and to teach you in the path of righteousness.

Somebody said, ‘Well, I know, but don’t you have to be baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?’  That’s what we’re doing now, whether you recognize it or not.  That’s what we’re doing.  We’re baptizing you in the name of the Father, that’s Yahweh, in English it’s Jehovah, and of the Son, Yahshua, that’s His name, and of the Holy Ghost, Elohim.  That is the godhead.  That’s what we’re preaching, and in so doing we’re baptizing in the name of the Father, not in the creek, not behind the pool; we’re baptizing you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.  The name of the Father is Yahweh.  Didn’t I tell you that?  And the name of the Son is Yahshua, and the name of the Holy Ghost is Elohim.  I have told you that is the godhead.  You can’t separate it and you can’t divide it, anymore so than you can live if you’re divided up.  Man is made in the likeness and image of God:  pneuma, psyche, and soma; God the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost and these three are one, just like you are pneuma, psyche, soma, soul, body, spirit.  And don’t go prancing around trying to divide none of it up, because you don’t know how to divide it.  You get the point?  ____ spiritual realm, it’s not ____ ____ ____.

So then, you come on down here and get washed.  ‘He that believeth on Me, as the scriptures hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.  This spake He of the spirit.’  Did you ever see a river of water flowing out of anybody’s belly?  Not what we are talking about the spirit.  That’s what’s flowing out of here now, not the river Jordan.  It’s not the natural thing, it’s not that water behind the pulpit there.  That Word of God, it’s not this Bible, that’s not, that’s not it.  These are words.  The Word of God was here long before this Bible.  The Bible wasn’t written yet, but the Word of God.  ‘In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.’  That’s God Himself.  Said, ‘Now he that believeth on Me, as the scriptures hath said out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.  This spake He of the spirit.’  The spirit was not yet given until the Day of Pentecost.  And anytime anybody thinks ____ ____ trying to dib dabble in the natural, physical, carnal things ____ ____.  That ain’t what it’s all about.

Paul said there is therefore, now, no condemnation to them that are in Christ, there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ.  How’d you get in Him?  By one spirit are we baptized into one body, and one hope of our calling.  First Corinthians 12:13.  Now, that’s how we get in there.  We’re not vicars of Christ.  I can’t believe or something.  You don’t join it, you’re born in it.  Yes indeed, you’ve got a rebirth.  That’s how you get into this.  We’re preaching and teaching the spiritual things so that you can have some confidence in the Son of God. ____ ____ ____ can become effective.  In order to ____ ____ ____ ,says become effective and believe in God everyday, and every minute, every hour of your life as long as you remain here.  We don’t need nobody to tell us right and wrong if we’ve got the Holy Ghost.  The covenant says they shall all know me, from the least to the greatest.  That’s from the top to the bottom, from the priest on down.  When the Holy Ghost is in you, that’s what’s doing the leading and the guiding.  It’s not Henry Clifford Kinley.  It’s not Williams.  It’s not Burbank Mitchell.  It’s not Peter.  It’s not Paul.  Who are they anyhow, but ministers by whom you believe.  Let us stand.

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