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by Dr. Henry C. Kinley

Los Angeles, California

received from Dr. Carl F. Gross

1 90 minute audio cassette tape

CATALOG #:  74.0929

transcribed by Steve Laporte

proofread by Cathy Fenti, Michael Rothstein, and Gerry Rothstein

proofread and approved by International Public Relations Committee:  1996


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Dr. Kinley: …of the time of their passover. Now Tuesday will be, the first and the beginning of the Feast of Tabernacles. Now I have tried hard, I have tried hard to tell you, that there is always going to be a reflection of those days. It never fails every year. Now just like the Feast of Tabernacles, it goes along with the seasons of the year and since it goes along with the seasons of the year, then you can expect fruition, at that time. So that is the Feast of Tabernacles. Now we just got out of the Day of Atonement, which ordinarily would be on the 10th of October, but it come on the 26th of September. Sundown on the 25th to sundown on the 26th was the Day of Atonement. Now Dr. Harris, he preached hard about that and we ought not to let these things go over our head. We should pay strict attention to ‘em because of the fact, that as you approach and at this the, the, the end of this, I can’t say at the end of the Age because that is already occurred, but as you, you go to the end of this probationary period or this extension of time. Just like Yahweh here when the end had come of the Age, Noah was told to build himself an ark because the end of all flesh, he didn’t say it was coming, he said it had come, and so he’s given a probationary period of 120 years while the ark was in preparing and so forth and so on. Now if we take the calculations of the 70 weeks or 490 years. Four times that, beginning from the first down to the end of that time, four times which would be 1960, nineteen hundred and sixty years. Now that was the end of the Age. Now I didn’t calculate that, that’s in your Bible. And everything the thing I’m standing up here telling you definitely is in your Bible. It’s not no theory. It’s not an imagination. It’s not some hallucination and that’s why I want you to pay strict attention to it, and call your attention to these things all the time. Now we wrote in the books so that you could be able to see and understand. Just like.., now the rising and setting of the sun that happens everyday now that’s a testimony of the resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah, but the world knows nothing about it and yet and still it’s just simple as it can be see, the sun rises and then the sunsets and your always talking about the sunrise. It’s in your papers sunrises at such and such a time and sunsets at such and such a time. Now that’s a thing that happens everyday. Now we said that this 10th of October was the Day of Atonement and it occurred this time on the 26th, began on the 5th, the 25th, sundown 25th to sundown the 26th, was the Day of Oct.., Atonement. Now listen folks everyday is a day of an atonement. You got that, I told you that, when the daily sacrifice was offered up that was a, for an atonement for the souls of the people. But now on this 10th day of October, or the Day of Atonement the High Priest, he went into the Most Holy Place once every year, only just that one time every year, three times on that day, that meant that he went around in front of this Ark of the Covenant. Now Dr. Harris told you this, and I just don’t want you to be overlooking and it correlates with the 15th chapter of 1st Corinthians that Dr. Kim Clark read. Now look, Yahshua the Messiah, He, He didn’t go, He didn’t go down there like the High Priest did here, the High Priest he came to the this side of the vail and I want you to know that this vail covered the whole thing through here. It was not open like we have it here on this chart. But we tried everything, every kind of way we can to make you understand things and bring things to your attention so that you will realize and understand that Yahweh is a reality. And look, we don’t need no debates about it, it’s just, just true, that’s all there is to it. And we try to tell you the true name, and we try to tell you how the world is in darkness, rooted in darkness and ignorance and superstition. And you got all these sects and cults and creeds and what nots out here and they don’t actually know anything at all about it and we want you to be aware of it. Now look here. Let me make this real good and clear to you too. I want this understood. This school, I didn’t say church, this school is the only one that is actually preaching the true gospel of the Kingdom in the world.

Student Body: Right, right, that’s right.

Dr. Kinley: Now listen, Yahweh sent some things right along with it to prove it.

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley: Now as simple as the things that I’ve told you about sunrise and sunset, as simple as that is, now a daily thing. How many preachers do you know, that can prove the divine authenticity, the unerring accuracy, and the absolute infallibility of the resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah? Now it is said there in Matthew, that His disciples come and stoled Him away. Is that right?

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley: Did you ever hear tell of anybody stealing the sun away? Too hot to handle that’s what I’m trying to tell you.

Student Body: Alright.

Dr. Kinley: That’s just going on everyday out there and there is no excuse for it, your stupidity and colossal ignorance. And we want you to realize that you’re right down near at the time of the end. When these things are being brought to your attention, not as just something as just to continue on in superstition and ignorance and for, not something for you to ignore and not obey. Not that easy, that’s if you wanna be saved. Now if you wanna be saved, you just have to get up and get out of those sects and cults.

Student Body: Right, right, right.

Dr. Kinley: Now listen the Boss showed me, and I’m showing you. You can’t argue with it. Everybody that’s ever rose up against what we teach down at this school has been defeated for forty-three years. You can’t get by with it, any more so than you can get by with an argument saying that the sun don’t rise and the sun don’t set. We give you that at jump. Now I wanna mention one or two other things about the Day of Atonement, and that is this. Now Dr. Harris already done told you about it and you never heard it before in your life. And I doubt seriously whether you’ll hear it anymore afterwards, unless you hear it in this school, because they know nothing about it. And we wouldn’t know nothing about it in this school either, if Yahweh hadn’t revealed it to me. I, I wouldn’t have known. So we still don’t have nothing to boast about. You see that now? And we’re not saying anything because we want to play big and important and all likea that, that’s not it at all. What we want you to do is to realize, the reality of things, and realize that Yahweh is the reality and in as much so as one day follows another one, so also don’t one age follow another one. It’s got to open and close just like the days of the week. Now you just simply have to be aware. Now the majority of them that you know anything at all about the big shot preachers on T.V. and what not, they have plenty of money to sponsor such programs and all like that, but they don’t have no knowledge of what it is all about. Now let me get on into this and get on down out of the way. Now the High Priest this is on the 10th, ordinarily on the 10th day of October, which was on the 26th of September this year. Now the High Priest took the blood of the beast in the, a container. Now pay, try to pay strict attention. Now this is why I’m on, this is what I’m talking about, I’m talking about Yahshua the Messiah now. That’s what I’m trying to show you that this thing is in a type.

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley: It’s in a shadow, it’s in a reflection. Now he went to the right side of this vail, the High Priest, on the Day of Atonement. He had on his arm the censor that hung down and in his hand he had this container with this blood in it. And when he approached the vail, I’d be, just like I’m coming up here to it, now he approached the vail with the blood in his right hand and with the censor hanging on his arm and then he went to this side of the vail and he pushed this vail to this side, and then entered. He entered in at the right side. Then he took the censor and set it down right in front of the altar, right in front of the Ark, and that cloud formed out of that censor, that smoke. Are you with me thus far?

Student Body: Yes, yes.

Dr. Kinley: Then he went around to this side. The staves on the Ark, he took around this way, then he come on around throwing that blood, listen now. Now somebody want to argue something about it because they don’t know, don’t know nothing about it, you follow? Throwing that blood toward the mercy seat seven times, and that correlates with the Circle of Willis in your, in your cranial, cranial cavity. So you, now do you want to argue? Now you have the veins that run up and the arteries that run up the sides of your, both the sides of your head. One running one way and one running the other. Is that almost right Dr. Harris?

Dr. Harris: That’s right. That’s right.

Dr. Kinley: And those veins carrying that blood, why then you have blue, purple and scarlet right in the neck. And that neck formed that vail there. Now then he went to this side and he come on around, just like that Circle of Willis. And then he picked up the censor and he came back around he picked up the censor. Now where is he going? He’s coming on down. He come to the left side now. And he’s gonna push that vail back on the left side and he’s gonna come on out the left side. What’s that for? Why is that? What’s that for? When he went in the right side, that’s got him towards the future or toward the end.

Student Body: Right, right.

Dr. Kinley: When he come back through to the left side that carries on back to Adam.

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley: That meant atonement was made for everybody. Now listen, get it straight now, get it straight. When Yahshua the Messiah was offered up, that was the atonement for every creature, all mankind. There was not and never is going to be anymore sacrifices offered up, period! Now you have to accept that one or else be lost, cause that’s a fact. There is no more sacrifices for sin. There is no more offering for sin. That was not Jesus Christ, that was Yahshua the Messiah! Now then he had to come on down outta there, come on down, backed into, the Holy Place. This is the altar of incense, when he come on back outta there. Then he comes back to this altar. That is the censor, it’s setting right on the altar, that’s the altar of incense. Then, now as he walked around this, when that, when he went in there. I want, want you to see this. Now this blue, purple, and scarlet and these are garments for Beauty and Glory, not linen garments, not white garments, but they’re blue, purple, and scarlet garments. Is that right?

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley: Or garments for Beauty and Glory. And around his skirt he wore there. Now listen to what I’m saying, there was bells around there and as he walked, those bells would ring. Now if he went in to this and didn’t carry out the service right, if he didn’t carry that service out, he’d be dead. Now that oughta tell you something. If these preachers don’t carry this service out right, they’re dead.

Student Body: That’s right.

Dr. Kinley: Now I’m just giving it to you straight. Now there ain’t gonna be no alibis. And he was, he couldn’t put his hand, he couldn’t touch that Ark of the Covenant. He just threw that blood, don’t you touch it. If you touch, it you’re dead. They threw that ox, cart, in the ox cart one time and they was transporting it from one place to the other. They was supposed to carry it by the staves on the shoulders, run through the Ark and those other vessels too were carried that way. Now listen at what I’m saying. But they threw it up in a ox cart and they was transporting it and it hit a rut. A man grabbed his hand on it to keep it from falling out of the ox cart. Right there is where he dropped dead. Now here we got this thing as it is. Now on this Ark of the Covenant in the Most Holy Place right above there is a seat, mercy seat. And Yahweh said in Leviticus 16:2 that He would dwell above the mercy seat, this is between the wings of the cherubim, that I would dwell there. Now this correalities to your brain, that cloud does. As Dr. Harris told you the other night. He did a beautiful job for me. Now what I wanna get at, is this. Now there’s Roman Catholicism, in the Sedia Gestatoria, you see how they carry the popes around on the seat, regarding and bowing to this one and that one and the other? Now remember now, Yahweh said He would dwell, on that seat between the wings of the cherubim and a man, you couldn’t touch it. Now here he is sitting his (DEMONSTRATING) ____ Now I’ll just tell you plain, straight there up on it, and they for a figure of it that’s what I’m talking about, and somebody carrying him around. Now you’ll find in the second chapter of second Thessalonians, saying that that’s just what that’s what it’s, it’s all about. Now that’s a strong delusion, because people will not accept the truth. And then Yahweh will give you that strong delusion, and cause you to be lost. Now when Yahweh gives you one, you, you’ve had it. Now look here folks. We’ve preached the truth down here, in this place that’s, that’s what we have done. We have preached the truth down… Now if you don’t accept it, now Yahweh gonna send you a strong delusion. We’ve told you to get up and get out of the Roman Catholic church, we told you to get out of the Baptist, we’ve told you to get out of the Methodist, now if you don’t do that, and other sects and cults, then Yahweh sends you a strong delusion, and cause you to think that you can be saved in it.

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley: That angel flying through the midst of heaven in 17th and 18th chapter of Revelation, Babylon is fallen, Babylon means confusion, is fallen. And that angel is saying come out of her my people, come on out of her my people. Yahweh has got people in the holiness, in these churches, got people in the Roman Catholic, got people in all these sects and cults. And the angel is crying, come out of her my people that you be not a partaker of her sins and receive of her plagues. Now look it’s a sin for you to call yourself taking a communion, and think that that’s the body and blood of Yahshua the Messiah. And when you do that you’re a partaker of their sins. Now you can’t get along with it… Then somebody come up and, and say, ‘well look here, did Jesus say as often as you eat this bread and drink of this cup, you show forth my death and suffering till I come.’ He definitely did say it, that’s Matthew 26:20. I know what’s in that Bible, but that was under the dispensation of the Law. That was the last supper, just like this was the last sacrifice that’s gonna be offered up. Now you can go ahead on eating it if you want to. He said, I won’t be there with you no more. That’s the way he said it to the Jews, he didn’t that to the gentiles. Now we wanna get this over to you clear and clean, that was not a covenant with the gentiles. Your Bible does not teach, that Jesus said that to any gentile. That’s not in the book. But they don’t understand these dispensations and Ages. Now are you listening? Dr. Kim Clark read to you in the 15th chapter of I Corinthians. She said the first man Adam was of the earth, earthly, but the second man Adam, was the Elohim from heaven. Now listen, he was raised a quickening or life giving Spirit. Now then, by this Holy Spirit, I want you to see what I’m talking about, it is by the Holy Spirit that we preach, and you are a partaker of that Spirit. That is that true bread. That is that true communication or true communion. Now listen, if the blood of bulls and goats and heifers, sanctified to the purifying of the flesh, but it did not take away sin, neither will some grape juice and some crackers that somebody prayed over. We got to lay it down plain. Now then, after the High Priest had offered first for his own errors, and then for the errors of the people, and then for the cleansing of the sanctuary and he came on back down and prayed over the head of the scapegoat, a goat, and a fit man took that goat to the wilderness and turned it loose out there in the wilderness somewhere, that meant that Israel’s sins was forgiven for that year. And the very next day they started again ____. Rotating that around but you didn’t go in there until that one day of October…they were safe until October the 10th or whatever day it happened to fall on. Now you understand that? Now folks, this is what I’m trying to tell you, there’s always gonna be a reflection of that. I’ve tried my best to teach you. Now could anybody stand up and tell me what that reflection was that 26th of September? Now I told you there was always gonna be one. Sit down. Dr. Harris and tell ‘em about it.

Dr. Harris: The one that I saw was the blowing up of that destroyer type ship in the Black Sea. Now the Black Sea would be likened unto the Lake cause it’s land bound, it only has one outlet from the Black Sea and that’s through the Dardenalles. That ship blew up and it had 350 men on it. Now 350, that’s three and five that’s eight, that be likened unto the eight saved in Noah’s Ark. And they said that ship was of the Kashin type. That’s a Russian word K-A-S-H-I-N. Now that’s what’s happening down here at the end. All of us are gonna cash in (LAUGHS) our chips. Whether we be righteous or unrighteous everybody’s gonna be cashed, cashed in and gonna get their just reward. So I thought that as a reflect. Blowing up of it is just showing how Yahweh just suddenly and the ship is called of the destroyer type. Now that’s the name of the Devil, he’s the Destroyer. That came on the 26th.

Dr. Kinley: Okay. Now how many of you noticed? Go ahead just stand up. Now I asked how many of you, hold your hand up or something I want everybody to see, all them that noticed them reflects. Okay, now I called your attention this time after it happened, not before, but I’ve told you time and time and over and over again: there’s always gonna be the reflection of those things. Now you have a reflection of the Feast of Tabernacles. You will have a reflection of all of those things, which points to the reality of Yahweh and His existence. Now here’s what I’m trying to get over to you, just like I’ve explained the simplicity of the rising and the setting of the sun, just like Messiah, He went on out and ascended off of the Mount of Olives in that cloud and those two men stood there by. Now He had arose from the dead and He ascended from the Mount of Olives and those two men, you find it in the first chapter of Acts of the Apostles. Read it Dr. Harris. Then He ascended str… look now, this is a vision, He ascended before He is fulfilling out on the Mount of Olives before He ascended. I want you to get this thing straight, you can stand on the Mount of Olives and look over on Mount Moriah. You are above Mount Moriah on the Mount of Olives. So then He raised up His hand over Jerusalem, toward Jerusalem and He blessed Jerusalem. Is that right? You follow it now? And then the cloud took Him on in. Raised up. Now that was not a physical man. Took Him on in to the nominal heaven or the physical sky out here, but now look that is not the third Heaven. Dr. Allen told you about the third Heaven, how Paul laid right flat on his back, there on the way going to Damascus, and he was caught up to the third Heaven. Now look here, let me give it to you this way, so you can see something about this third Heaven. If you took the wings of morning and you flew on out to the outer parameters of this universe, I mean ascend on clear up, wherever you can go, makes no difference where it is, upon the sun, the moon, the stars, any planet up there, Yahweh’s there. I just wanted, well, I wanted, I wanted, want you to become conscience of it. Now Yahweh is there. If you made your bed in the lowest hell, Yahweh is there. Wither shall you go to flee from Yahweh, in the third Heaven? That’s why you can sit right on your seat right now, right where you are and in your conscience and in your spirit and can be in the third Heaven, in your physical body walking around here down on the Earth. Those are things that people just simply do not understand. Your hypocrite preachers, they don’t understand nothing. So now I thought that I would get up and call your attention to that. Now there’s one other thing that I want you to pay attention to and that’s this. Now on this chart here. We don’t have the right order on here, because the fact of the matter is this. What we was trying to do, was not show you how that the Tabernacle wasn’t built at this time. There, there was no Tabernacle, they just had the materials for it. Moses threw down the commandments and broke them. Now then after this Tabernacle was constructed and built, Yahweh said this, Elohim told Moses, told him up in the mount, to build a Tabernacle like the one that he had seen in the cloud. Now when he got down outta there and started, after he took care of this situation here with this golden calf. Then he started here to giving them the dimensions of the Tabernacle and so forth and so on. Then he had somebody down there just like we have around us. Abiram, Dathan and Korah, they said, that thing that you got there in your camp that ain’t gonna do, that’s too flimsy.’ Now you find in Jude, Korah over there perished in the gain saying. Well now they withstood Moses. Now here’s the thing about it. Now I want you to take this one home with you. Now I’ve tried my best to stand up here and show you and tell you that Yahweh has showed me a vision. I am not no smarter than anybody else. No wiser than any other man. Yahweh showed me the vision. I drew it out, in limitations of course, just like Yahweh showed me. And I had all kinds of contestants trying to tell me about water baptism and here that thing is ended. Trying to tell me about Lord’s suppers and that’s ended. All carnal ordinances is ended and we’re now into spiritual thing in this Age. Now listen at what I’m saying. Now you see how many people, how many millions and billions there are just sitting around here telling us that we’re wrong. Now it’s no great thing for some preacher to come here or some person in the audience to say that we’re wrong. Now the, the world says that, so you won’t be by yourself saying it. Everybody, what everybody says. Now, now don’t forget this one though, that’s what they thought about Yahshua the Messiah. And they thought he had a demonic spirit incarnated in Him. So then as you can see it’s alright for people to say these things, cause every Tom, Dick, and Harry… He hid this thing from the wise and the prudent and revealed it unto babes. Now look, to get back and finish the story. Now, Moses was to build the Tabernacle like he’d seen it in the cloud. Dr. Harris did you find the book?

Reader: Acts 1:9

Dr. Kinley: Acts 1:9

Reader: And when He had spoken these things, while they beheld, He was taken up; and a cloud received Him out of their sight.

Dr. Kinley: Now the same cloud, here, is the one that descends on him. Now where you get this ascension at? The last time that Moses went up into the mountain, he carried them 10, them tables of stones, these tables of stones. Joshua’s with him. He took the elevator. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now you see why I brought that up? Now the elevator, I’m talking about is this, the cloud stood. Now that’s in the book. Everything I say to you is in the book, it does, read it Dr. Harris.

Reader: Exodus 33, about 11.

Dr. Kinley: Eleven, I think twelve

Reader: And it came to pass, eighth verse, when Moses went out unto the meeting tent that all the people rose up, and stood every man at his tent door and looked after Moses, until he was gone into the tabernacle. And it came to pass as Moses entered into the meeting tent, the cloudy pillar descended…

Dr. Kinley: Um hum, the cloudy pillar descended…

Reader: And stood at the door of the meeting tent…

Dr. Kinley: That’s right.

Reader: And Yahweh talked with Moses…

Dr. Kinley: Then Yahweh talked with Moses, the very next verse…

Reader: And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the meeting tent door…

Dr. Kinley: Um hum…

Reader: And all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door…

Dr. Kinley: Um hum…

Reader: And Yahweh-Elohim spake unto Moses.

Dr. Kinley: Now that’s what I want you to see now. Go ahead on.

Reader: Face to face…

Dr. Kinley: Um hum…

Reader: As a man speaketh unto his friend…

Dr. Kinley: Speaketh unto his… that’s right. Alright read on.

Reader: And he turned again into the camp…

Dr. Kinley: Um hum…

Reader: But his servant Joshua the son of Nun…

Dr. Kinley: Um hum…

Reader: A young man departed not out of the meeting tent.

Dr. Kinley: Now he stayed right in that meeting tent. He did not depart outta there, that tent door. That cloud was down over that door. Now then he told them to take these tables of stone up into the mountain. Then this time, this last time when he did the writing on those tables of stone… He sat still in the tent and the cloud covered the tent door. He didn’t go up to the plateau of the mountain with Moses and them ____ ____ ____ ____. They didn’t see him in or out, come out of the tabernacle or out of the tent at all, but He did write with His finger up there in them tables of stone just like he did this time. Well now then if they didn’t see Him come out, He took the elevator. Now here’s what I mean by taking the elevator. He took the cloud. and they didn’t see that. Then He went on up to the top of that mountain, that is to say He ascended in the cloud. Now do you see what I mean? He ascended in the cloud. Now after He did all this, Yahshua the Messiah carried it on here both times both places, then He ascends in the cloud. And just only a few people saw that, as witnesses and then she read it in the 15th chapter of 1st Corinthians this morning. Now listen, they saw that. Now the people think He’s gone. That’s what the world is talking about. They think He’s gone and won’t be back no more until He’s, well let’s say it this way, revealed from Heaven. I told, I tried to show you where Heaven was, being revealed from Heaven, that’s the whole thing, the third Heaven. But what they’re thinking is about they’re gonna be looking with a physical eye because over there in Revelation it says every eye shall see Him, and He would descend on a cloud or in a cloud, and every eye would see Him, but these folks don’t have no eye. and they don’t have no ears either. Now look folks, I’m trying to conclude now, so I can let somebody just preach. I’m not trying to preach, I’m trying to tell you, and give you full assurance that this gospel is right what we’re talking about. Well now after that ascension, as you see it right here, on that cloud. Now move right over ten days after that which we don’t say very, we don’t say nothing about, about this. When we get on these charts, we don’t say much about it. This, this is, is pentecost, ten days after His ascension there on in the cloud. Now He’s still yet in the cloud. And now He poured out the Holy Spirit. Yahweh poured out… Now He said He would be a quickening spirit. Now here He comes right back. This is the descent of the Holy Spirit. Now, my thought to you here is this, the people are looking at the thing with a carnal mind and thinking that He’s gone off, when He’s a quickening spirit, as she read there in 15th chapter of I Corinthians. They witnessed this, but they didn’t see this. Well now on the day of Pentecost when they were sitting in, in this one place, cloven tongues, and they set upon each one of ‘em. Cloven means divided tongues, right in the same place. Now if you would carry this right on back in the same place, and on out into the ____ you’d find, that them cloven tongues is symbolical of the Holy Spirit or a divided tongue, just like that dove that John saw. Well now the Holy Spirit, your body is the tabernacle of it, just like the Holy Spirit dwelled between the wings of the cherubim in this Tabernacle, so then the Holy Spirit has got to dwell in your tabernacle or your body between the wings of the cherubim, up here. And that’s what we’re ministering to you is the spirit. It’s with the heart man believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. And the observance of them carnal ordinances. Get up there Freddie and show them what I’m talking about. And the observance of water baptism and all those things was brought to an end. It was given to the Jews only and now we’re in the Spirit of it. Now listen folks to what I’m saying, you have to have the Holy Spirit now in this Age, from the 6th day of June A.D. 33 down to it now, that puts you into the Kingdom of Heaven, now if that puts you…I don’t mean after a while, I mean now, puts you into the Kingdom of Heaven now. And now the Kingdom of Heaven doesn’t come by observations. You don’t see that that way, but now the Holy Spirit in, in your body. Now here’s the importance of what I’m trying to tell you. That’s what’s in this Age Freddie… There is no carnal ordinance in this Age. The Holy Spirit, that’s what all those carnal ordinances was pointing to, was the Holy Spirit, so when you got the Holy Spirit, you got what all the carnal ordinances pointed to. Now that’s what’s in this present Age. Now remember, don’t overlook it, don’t forget, don’t miss it. If that’s what’s in this Age, what’s in the next Age? Now she read it there, outta the book the Holy Spirit is in a mortal or corruptible body. You heard me Freddie, that’s all that’s in this Age now. No water baptism, no offering up of no sacrifices, none of that, but the Holy Spirit in a man preaching the Gospel and used by the Holy Spirit and you are a partaker of the Holy Spirit setting right down on your seat. As Galatians’s says, the third chapter, He that ministers to you the Spirit, does he do it by the works of the Law? Third chapter of Galatians. No, He doesn’t do it that way. Now Freddie. Now, I have to move now. I told you what is in this Age. And anybody anywhere on earth that’s preaching anything any different, is wrong.

Student Body: Right, that’s right.

Dr. Kinley: Now then it’s incumbent upon us to tell you what is in the Age yet to come. That’s the reason why I mentioned the Day of Atonement and then the Feast of Tabernacles. Now in the Age yet to come, then you have a, better read it again Dr. Clark, somebody read it, in I Corinthians…

Reader: 15th chapter…

Dr. Kinley: 15th chapter, now this is a mortal body, this is a physical body, this is a natural body, if you breathe with the Holy Spirit in it. That’s all that’s in this Age. Yahweh is Spirit. Can’t you see or are you so dumb that you can’t see that if you have Yahweh or the Holy Spirit in you, then there’s no bullocks, no doves, no playing with no crackers and grape juice, no dragging somebody else up through the river and lakes and things. You couldn’t have anything any greater. Alright read.

Reader: I Corinthians 15:44 first. [CUT IN TAPE]

Dr. Kinley: …about this Tabernacle. Now said this is not the right layout for it. And to tell, Dr. Harris getting it, in the, in the last chapter of Exodus and read just one verse for me, where that when Moses: had completed the Tabernacle. Then this same cloud that he saw Him in, comes down and covered the cloud… but Abiram, Dathan and Korah.., Moses just drew the line with his foot, said now all on Yahweh’s side get over here, all on the other side get over there. And so the earth just opened up and swallowed them up, that’s it, all them that weren’t standing with Moses. Now, that’s just the same thing gonna happen with this one. It’s gonna be swallowed up in the Lake. I mean your physical body. And we’re not down here to debate and argue with nobody. We’re down here to tell you like it is. Now you can come back if you want to. Now if you don’t want to, that’s up to you. That’s not our, that’s not our business. But now we aren’t gonna change a thing to fit with nobody’s doctrine.

Student Body: That’s right.

Dr. Kinley: Now we’re going on an build this structure just like Yahweh said, this is the pattern and when it was completed, then what Dr., Dr. Harris?

Dr. Harris: Exodus 40:34

Dr. Kinley: Um, hum…

Dr. Harris: Then a cloud covered the tent of the Congregation.

Dr. Kinley: That cloud come on down and covered it, that showed that Moses did see it in the cloud and Yahweh…he builded the thing like Yahweh showed him and Yahweh endorsed it by the cloud coming down. That he showed him in, it’s the same cloud. Now how about that witness. He built just like Yahweh told him. Now he told him to build…


Dr. Kinley: The cloud coming down because it’s the same cloud. Now how about that reverend. He had did it, just like Yahweh told him. Now he told him to build that Tabernacle, that he may dwell among them. Well why you… I thought you was already among them. No, he was back over here on the back side of the mountain. So that he wanted this built here so that he could dwell among them. Now then when they got it finished, listen folks, I had the man to write 3 times 8 on this thing, three times eight is twenty-four. So now then after the Tabernacle was built, then three tribes on each side, three times four, is four sides three times, four is… Gentlemen.

Student Body: Twelve.

Dr. Kinley: twelve and twice twelve is twenty-four.

Student Body: Twenty-four.

Dr. Kinley: Now there is your twelve tribes, three on each side of this Tabernacle here. Three here, three there, three here, and three there, three times twelve, three times eight, no I mean three times four, three times four is twelve. Now listen, under the dispensation of the Law, there was twelve tribes and under the dispensation of Grace, there is how many?

Student Body: Twelve.

Dr. Kinley: Twelve apostles. And now look, the promise that Yahweh’s made to Abraham is included in that, he had to reach clear on back, I told back to Adam to pick up the promise here too. Now look, here’s what I’m trying to tell you. That’s the twenty-four elders, that’s gathered around the throne, that John is talking about in Revelation 24. Now there was Isaac and Ishmael then you come on down to Jacob and Jacob had twelve sons and so also did Ishmael, Ishmael. And the gentiles and the Jews: twelve tribes of the Jews, and twelve of the Israel, of the Ishmaelites, I’ll just call them Ishmaelites, they were twelve sons. That’s twenty-four. Twelve and twelve is twenty-four. Now look here’s what I got that from, when the High Priest went in here, he went on around, come on around, went down this side and come down here, that made an eight. When, when he went in here and then went around that, that made an eight in there. When he put the blood on the horns of alter here, he went on around here to the altar that made an eight there. So eight, eight, eight, one, two, three, three times eight is twenty-four. That’s the twenty-four elders gathered around the throne. Now look folks, the devil, he don’t know nothing about nothing like that, he don’t understand a thing about it. And the throwing of that blood toward the mercy seat when that high priest go around. ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____. You can turn your head to this side and you can turn your head to that side. Well then we’ll just say this is the beginning back here to the left, this is the beg.., end over here on the right, so you can turn your head both ways. Now when he had completed that service there around that throne, then Yahweh accepted it, the shechinah flashed. Shechinah means a light and he could see that image in that light, that she read in the 16th Chapter of Leviticus and the second verse you’ll see him sitting there in a vision on that throne, that is to say, this one now. He’s accepted their atonement. And the man come on outta there and there was much rejoicing in ____ because ____ ____ ____. And I hope that you might have gotten something outta what I… Thank you.


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