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(also called: SPIRIT, SOUL, BODY

by Dr. Henry C. Kinley

early 60’s

Springfield, Ohio

recorder unknown

received from Oliver Gill


transcribed by Sherry Tinker

proofread by Geraldine Rothstein, Cathy Fenti, and Mary Gross

approved by International Public Relations Committee – April 1995


1.  … indicates that Dr. Kinley ended a word or a sentence without verbally completing it.

2.  Unless emphasized by Dr. Kinley pause words have been left out of the transcript for the sake of ease in readability and comprehension (see, you see, see that now, you see what I’m talking about, you understand, you follow, isn’t that right?) 

3.  ___ indicates an inaudible word or syllable

4.  WORDS IN CAPITAL LETTERS are comments of the transcriber

5.  Student Body comments are only included if more than one person responded or if Dr. Kinley directly spoke to an individual.


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Dr. Kinley: …Now here’s what I want you to see ___, this is what I want you to see.  If now all these could tell you ___ ___ then this day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night.  The Day will come as a thief in the night.  That’s the reason why I said the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night.  Now you watch and listen.  Now then, these angels that God created in the realm of eternity, and cast them down to the earth and remember the earth abides.., was created in and abides in Him, the sun and the moon and everything abides within the cloud or within God or in eternity; it abides there.  It never has been out and it never will.  Now God has established a decree, what shall transpire and what shall take place.  Now listen, this is the way it’s to be, now if this takes place in the cloud and the cloud was a burning cloud, a burning fire, the cloud, in the eyes of the children of Israel who encamped around the mount at the cloud was a consuming fire or the cloud denoting spirit, spirit was the fire.  Now look, look, and the only description you get was a pillar of fire by night and a cloud by day.  It took this cloud, notice it took this shape and form.  Now if that’s the way that God took on spirit, I mean God took on shape and form or spirit took on shape and form, this is form here.  And Moses looked at Him and said, `God created the man in His own likeness and in His own image and in His own shape and form.  Is that right?  Now do you see that?  Now here’s what I want you to see here is, and I want you to read Romans 1:20. 

Reader: For the invisible things of him

Dr. Kinley: Now the invisible God and the invisible angels and the invisible things of God

Reader: From the creation of the world

Dr. Kinley: From the creation, the creation, remember I told you it took place in the realm of eternity, it took place in this cloud which is a burning fire, the creation of the angels, and also of the physical earth in that burning cloud, in that burning fire; representing a day without a beginning, a day without an ending, or an eternal God inhabiting eternity.  Now, do you understand me?  Do you understand that thus far, are you with me?  Do you understand what I’m talking about? 

Man: No.

Dr. Kinley:  Alright then.  Now then, if that’s true, it come in in a cloud in the Day.  Now those angels that sinned, God cast them down to earth.  Watch, watch and see this, now if this cloud is indescribable as to shape and form, and the cloud denotes the presence of God, and from this indescribable cloud that was a burning fire, then in that He’s taking on shape and form.  `What did you say that for?’  Well, when the Children of Israel went through the Red Sea, they said they saw no similitude in the cloud, but the same cloud when it hovered over Mount Sinai as you see here, then they did see shape and form.  So it did take on some shape and form.  Is that right?  You understand that now?  Now then, if this incorporeal come from spirit and took on form here, shape and form, matter then.., if matter itself.., or the creation of the earth, it has got to come without shape and form. 

And you have it in Genesis, `in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth was without form, it’s without a shape, darkness covered the face of the deep.’  Is that right?  Is that right? 

Man: That’s right.

Dr. Kinley: You sure? 

Man: Sure.

Dr. Kinley: And then if the invisible is understood  by the visible, then if the visible didn’t have no shape and form, ___ ___ ___ in the beginning of the earth.  The reason why it didn’t have none was because spirit didn’t have no describable shape and form.  So the invisible is seen and understood by the visible.  So then the visible must be produced without shape and form first.  Is that right?  And then God shaped and formed out of that chaos or that conglomerated mass the vegetable and the animal kingdom and everything, just like out of pure spirit, He’s taking on shape and form.  And then incorporeal here by Himself here and the angels, they’re incorporeal.  We call this a superincorporeal, in order that you might call that corporeal.  Now do you see that now?  Now all of this come in in this cloud.  This cloud was a consuming fire in the eyes of the Children of Israel.  Then if the cloud is.., denotes spirit.  Spirit is God and God is a consuming fire and the creation is coming in, the visible creation is coming in from spirit:  incorporealization and materialization is coming from spirit.  Why?  Because that’s the source from whence it came and that is the destiny and which it shall return after that it has accomplished everything that God had prescribed or predicted or said would come to pass:  we call that the purpose of God.  Is that right?  You understand?  Now do you see what I just explained to you.  Now in the 24th chapter of Exodus you’ll find and read about the cloud and you’ll find in Exodus about the Children of Israel going out of the land of Egypt led by the cloud, out of Egypt, nobody got no excuses.  Get the point?  And you can see it coming in in this burning cloud, the wrath of God.  If it can come in that way, then it will go out just like it come in, it will be dissolved, consequently the wrath of God is revealed from heaven.  To whom?  Shown to them.  Them who?  The children of Israel, where is their excuse?  They don’t have any.  You see the point?  Now while we’re sitting around He’s telling you and he explains it.  Now here’s the boy explaining it, but suppose you, before we go there.  I just said you didn’t have an excuse.  Somebody says, `well, Dr. Kinley said you didn’t have an excuse.’  No, no.  Don’t put that one on me.  Alright.  Read Romans the 20th verse. 

Reader: For the invisible things of him

Dr. Kinley: For the invisible things of him

Reader: From the creation of the world

Dr. Kinley: From the creation of the world

Reader: Are clearly seen

Dr. Kinley: Now look, clearly seen.  You don’t have to speculate or guess, it’s seen real clear, the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen.

Reader: Being understood

Dr. Kinley: Being understood

Reader: By the things that are made

Dr. Kinley: Being understood by the things that are made

Reader: Even

Dr. Kinley: Wait just a minute, cause you don’t understand the invisible.  Now Moses looking at this incorporeal being, seeing pure spirit taking on shape and form and seeing this man here, this spirit this cloud here.  Then when he sees this man, take this man from the dust of the earth, then he says this man Adam was made in the likeness and image of that man.  So then the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made when God made this form and how it right after this pattern, and that eliminates my excuse for ignorance, cause this man is made in the likeness and image of God.  Is that right?  Now if I’ll take and.., and let’s say analyze this man.  I’m using the cloud as universal substance then this man has a soul the comprehensive part of you, the conscience.  He has a body.  Is that right?  And spirit functions through…  So he’s spirit, soul, and body.  He’s made in the likeness and image of the godhead.  Is that right?  Now remember I said spirit, God is spirit.  That’s the god part of you.  His soul, that’s the conscious part of it.  And body, and it’s manifested in there so you can see.  He’s made in the likeness and image of God.  Now he is not 3 distinctive personalities, you don’t have no excuse to think that man is made in likeness and image of God.  And there’s one God and there’s one man.  Get the point?  So you don’t have no excuse to not understand and not know, cause there it is right there.  Get the point?  Now do you see that now? 

Man: First you said soul was the conscious part of…

Dr. Kinley: I said conscience. 

Man: Conscience.  Now does the spirit abode there even the spirit of iniquity or the spirit of righteousness abode there?

Dr. Kinley: Now, that’s one of the things I want you to see there.  Now when Adam sinned back there in the Garden of Eden.  God told him the day that ye eat of the fruit of the tree, said, `you will surely die.’  Now the ___ ___ put ___ on right there.  What happened?  What happened? 

Man: He died in his conscience. 

Dr. Kinley: Died in his conscience ___.  Now to prove that he did.  The bushes.

Man: Yes he did.

Dr. Kinley: `What are you running for?’ 

Man: It wasn’t the fruit was forbidden. 

Dr. Kinley: How’s that?

Man: It was in his disobedience.

Dr. Kinley: God told him not to touch of that.  And he done what God told him not to do.  Now Paul put it this way, `by one man’s disobedience death was passed upon all.’  Now that, no sooner he touched it, his conscience is condemned.  Now Ezekiel, Isaiah (now are you listening?) said, `the soul that sinneth, he shall die.’  Are you listening?  Every sin, so says Paul, that a man commits is without the body.  The body is under the supervision and influence of the mind.  Is that right?

Man: How about his soul doc.

Dr. Kinley: How’s that?

Man:  What about his soul.  What’s the difference between a mind and soul?

Dr. Kinley: The difference between a mind and a soul, they are one and the same.  Now I didn’t say spirit and mind were the same thing. 

Man: Yeah, you did.

Dr. Kinley: No, I didn’t say that.  Spirit is so far above mind.  ___ that part, that thing is almost incomprehensible because now if you notice, if you look, most all attitudes and dispositions…  Paul said, `when I would do good, then evil was present, and the good thing that he really would do that was the very thing that he didn’t do.’  Ain’t that right?  Now, I’m showing you this: now God is spirit.  Now I say that God as a man was spirit, that’s the standard of righteousness and it never changes.  The man’s mind is subject is change.  Mind is subject to change, but spirit isn’t. 

Man: That’s ___ mind is really invisible substance.

Dr. Kinley: Yes, that most certainly would

Man: And so is spirit,

Dr. Kinley: That’s right.  That’s right. 

Man: ___ ___

Dr. Kinley:  Well, now Ronnie just.., mind is invisible substance.  Spirit is invisible substance.  Now are you listening for a minute.  Are you listening?  I tried to make a difference, make a distinction.  Now this is superincorporeal.  Then I wanted to tell you that the angels…  I said you call Him superincorporeal, in order to call the angels incorporeal.  Well now, what’s the difference?  Let’s come on down here and get you.  What’s the difference between you and the angels?  We just read a while ago in the Book, since we been in the building, that they were far greater, the angels, in power and might, I mean the angels there, than the man.  They’re created that way, a higher form of creation.  And I showed you that them angels was incarnated in man, satanic.  Angels that’s incarnated in.., the, the apostles were sent to drive `em out.  Is that right?  You understand?  Now that sin that he committed in his soul caused his mind to be depraved or carnal or guilty and not innocent.  And the soul that sinneth, it shall die.  Now there have been cases wherein that the whole outer man is called a soul.  And God too has been referred to as the over soul, universal over soul, down in modern, philosophical, psychology, (I didn’t get, I didn’t get you up there, did I?) and the psychoanalyst, the ___, I could finish this statement. 

Man:  ___ ___ soul?

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right.  Now they’re saying that they’re wisest and the smartest people in the world because I’m teaching divine on this point, divine philosophical, psychology.  Psychoanalyze you.  They say man is composed.., I’m after them lines of demarkation, the man is composed of a universal, universal mind and that universal mind is drawn through the subconscious, subconscious mind.

Man:  I believe doc, you said in your book there was no such thing. 

Dr. Kinley:  Well, I’m after that right now.  Now, I’m after that right now.  And the thing that makes me after it, is because I’m trying to show you the difference between.., and the person that is talking about it being one and God being mind or spirit being mind, they’re mistaken.  They’re not able to make that ___, the distinction between soul and spirit and the mind and the spirit and these things that you’re dividing up here.  Now let me get, let me get to the ___ here now.  Now if God is a universal mind, and the universal mind is drawn to God by the subconscious mind, and the conscious mind…  Now all of that is mind.  One is shoring up the other.  And I described it in the book.  And I said in the book, that there was no such thing as a subconscious mind.  Now that’s what your pastor’s telling you about.  And I further stated in the book that the modern philosophical psychologist, they weren’t able to distinguish or draw a line of distinction between, the difference between the subconscious mind and the universal mind, and the conscious mind and the subconscious.  They wasn’t able to draw a line of distinction between that.  Is that what you.., is that what I have in the book?  But now I can.  And now here’s how I draw the line.  Now I call this here according to the pattern.  I call this the Court Around About.  You see the point?  And then I call, so the people back there can see, there’s a line drawn right through here. 

There’s a line drawn right through here.  This is the Outer Court, that’s this part here.  Into the door, you’ve got the Holy Place.  Then there’s a vail that divided between the Holy Place and Most Holy Place.  Now this a type.  Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.  Your body, your body and you are made in the likeness and image of God.  Now this is spirit up here, and this is the soul in here.  Is that right?  And this whole thing the Outer Court is the body.  And it’s divided between.., the vail that divided the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place, and the vail that divided the Court from the Outer Court in you.  So then, I’m showing you the lines of distinction and telling you there is no such thing as a subconscious mind.  And it’s not a universal mind either, I didn’t say that then and I’m saying it now.  And I did say that God is not mind.  God is spirit.  And the difference between spirit and mind is one is a more…  They said, they say more ethereal:  the subconscious was more ethereal than the conscious mind.  Well, God is more ethereal and more spiritual than, than any of that.  You understand that?  Well, since He’s the source from whence everything comes.  Now if there was a subconscious mind, see you’ve got me off on a ramification.  If there was any such thing as a subconscious mind and a conscious mind and a universal mind or anything else, everything come from spirit, but certainly everything did not come from mind.  God’s not mind.  God doesn’t change.  Don’t you change your mind.  I’m asking you, don’t you? 

Student Body:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  If you don’t, you should. 

Man: ___ ___

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right. 

Man:  Saying goes a wise man changes but a fool never does. 

Dr. Kinley:  You see what I’m talking about?  When you discover you’re wrong, you, you just should change.  God has never been wrong to make any changes.  Get the point?  He’s an unchanging God.  Now, I, I kinda got off on a ramification.  Now he asked me what was the difference.  Now you see, if I would go into just what was the difference, it would almost have to be something that you’d have to comprehend in your own intellectual comprehension.  And that was, here’s pure spirit without shape and form.  And this is __ ___, I mean with shape and form.  If this is spirit and then this here would be soul and then if this come in a phys… in flesh, then it would be a body, sacrifice.  Paul said to the brethren at Thessalonica, `I pray God that your whole soul, body, and spirit be preserved blameless until the coming of our lord Jesus Christ.’  You wanna read that? 

Man:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  Find it there for me right quick, it’s in Thessalonians I think the, I’m not sure the 1st, 2nd Thessalonians and the last verse of the first chapter I believe it is, last 2 verses I hope.  2nd Thessalonians.  If not there then find it, I know it’s in there.  Now look, look right up here.  Now this is no different than Paul would say, I mean this is no different that John would say, 1st epistle of John the 5th chapter and, this is no different.  You see the point?  Now they say it’s an interpolation in one place, well what is it over here?  John said there’s 3 that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost.  And these 3 are 1.  Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now Paul said, `I pray to God, with the whole soul, body, and spirit.

Man: 1st Thessalonians 5:23

Dr. Kinley: Thessalonians 5

Man: 1st Thessalonians 5:23

Dr. Kinley: 1st Thessalonians.  Read it please.

Man:  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly;

Dr. Kinley:  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly;

Man: And I pray God

Dr. Kinley: And I pray God

Man: Your whole spirit

Dr. Kinley:  that your whole spirit

Man: And soul

Dr. Kinley: And soul

Man: And body

Dr. Kinley: And body

Man: Be preserved blameless

Dr. Kinley: Be preserved blameless

Man: Unto the coming of our Lord

Dr. Kinley: Unto the coming of our Lord

Man:  Jesus Christ

Dr. Kinley: Jesus Christ.  Now, Dr. Bass, that’s your spirit, that’s the god part of you.  That’s your soul, now that’s the conscience part.  And the body, which is really unconscious, because it’s in the mind.  Now that’s the difference.  But the spirit itself, that is God, now that’s the god part of a man.  That’s the reason why before you can even make up your mind before you even get started.  There’s always somebody talking about, `don’t you know that, don’t take no stuff and all these kind of things.’  ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ this, that and the other.  And they’re always talking about you have to go away with this and that and do away with that and you have to do away with the other.  And he’s talking about some eating and strong drink.  Ain’t that right?  Whiskey, beer, wine.  `Wine is not a strong drink, that’s where I draw the line.’  You can stand up and drink a whole 5th of whiskey and don’t think you’re gonna get drunk, you’re deceived yourself.  You’re not wise, you’re not smart at all.  But I guess if you drank one that way, I bet you the next one, you’ll know better.  You get all wised up.  Don’t you think so?  Now do you understand what I’m talking about?  Now the point is this that I’m trying to convey to your mind, if you haven’t lost the continuity of thought.  Now the devil, he’s always talking about them visible things, about them things that you you got to do away with this in order to be right with God.  Did you say that was right?  Then the lying dog turns right back around and everyone of them natural things that Jesus said He did and Paul said was nailed to the cross, he drug them right back in.  You understand?  Now he’s got you to put on natural chewing tobacco, natural drinking whiskey, natural, everything.  Now I tell you clean, you put on all your habits that you took up, then he turned right, that’s natural, then he turned right back around and got the natural things that God said He nailed to the cross and brought that back over here.  Why’d he tell you to put that down.  See how he deceived you, how he fooled you with them natural things.  You get it?  Do you understand what I’m talking about?  See how deception comes in, how he fooled you.  Said, `well, didn’t Jesus, didn’t Jesus, didn’t Jesus do this?’  Then you have to say, `well, He did.’  Didn’t Jesus administer at the Last Supper?  We all say, `yes He did.’  I’m contending that He did.  And I’m contending that that that was the last one.  Ain’t that right?  Get the point?  And if that’s the last one, what are you doing with another one up here?  What are you doing with it in the congregation of the assembly.., was eaten in houses back there.  And Paul kicking about it in the 11th chapter of 1st Corinthians.  Is that right?  See what I mean?  Said, `didn’t Jesus tell you to take and eat my own ___, said as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup you show forth my death and suffering till I come.’  Did He say that?

Student Body: Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  To whom did He say it to?  He said it to His disciples.  Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Alright now.  Where was He at?  In the upper room.  Is that right? 

Student Body: Right, upper room,

Dr. Kinley: Upper room.  And He told `em.  Now look, after that passover, that was connected right to it, was a piece of unleavened bread the same day.  You see that now?  Now, are you listening Gill?  Now He told them as often as they ate that bread after that cross, they would show forth His death and suffering until He come.  You say that He was up, in the upper room there, where He prepared this, where the disciples prepared the passover.  Is that right?  Well now look, here He is come right on back up.  Said, `look here Thomas, put your hand in and see that this is me.’  Is He back? 

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley: Get the point?  Peter and them there.., Mary down at the tomb, she told Peter and them.  Peter and John run down to see.  And when Peter and John was on the way back through ___, they were talking together, Jesus appeared in the midst.  They went on up at the temple and while they were eating, He made Himself known, and He said `Oh fools and slow of heart.’  Now I’m just asking you ___ ___ today if that’s the way that is.  Well didn’t He, didn’t He say, `as often as you eat this bread and drink of this cup, ye show forth my death and suffering until my.., till I come.’  And when He come He had resurrected and He’s resurrected when He come.  Now they want me to think, now they want me to say that you are supposed to eat it, gentiles and all.  Not a one of `em could eat that Supper.  Well now, you want me to think that you.., that’s what you’re supposed to do is eat it, and Jesus said so, He said so in the New Testament.  I’m talking about them devils that sinned.  Don’t forget that.  And I’m talking about the Day of the Lord is upon you whether you believe it or not.  And I’m talking about Satan being transformed as an angel of light, or a Doctor of Divinity.  And I’m talking about him being incarnated in you, causing you to believe all these things and superstitions.  And I’m telling you there’s no way to convert him, just must be cast out, that’s all there is to that, just got to get rid of him cause he’s not gonna change.  And then all of this was created in the cloud and in the fire and everything that was created and made.  Do you see that now?  And that God had cast him down to the earth and the earth abides in the cloud, the sun, the moon, and stars, everything abides in the cloud, everything, or abides in the cloud or abides in the realm of eternity.  And everything that God had said would come to pass, His purpose will have to come to pass in eternity, and eternity it is not made by time, time is in the realm of eternity and not eternity in time.  That’s why you find in the 1st chapter of Genesis, as you go on down and read the 1st chapter (I don’t want you to do that, wait till you go home) and down in the 4th verse, the 2nd chapter of Genesis you will find that you have a day by day account of Moses seeing the vision, day by day in the realm of eternity.  And this incorporeal created, this is the first day, the second day, the third day, the fourth day, the fifth day, the 6th day.  Now those days is this ___ ___ ___.  Now here’s the Day.  Now they come out of… the very day of, that God had promised to Abraham, now that’s on that very day.  Is that right?  And now then they went into the wilderness and they stayed 40 years there.  Is that right?  And now God before He started on in the wilderness, well, on the 50th day, you have to have some time for me to preach that.  You want me to talk about that, then God called Moses after He spoke on the 6th day or the day of Pentecost, which would be the same day as this in the realm of eternity.  And God spoke on the 6th day the day.  This is it, just repeated over there.  Get the point?  As far the speaker is concerned. Speaks through Moses, to the Children of Israel, speaks through the, the 12 apostles here to the Children of Israel.  Now look and listen.  Now, what I’m showing you here is this:  the cloud covering the top of the mountain and everything coming in and this cloud is symbolizing The Day.  Now the Day that we’re taking about, the sun is rising and setting and this is way after the creation of heaven and earth that God showed Moses the vision.  The sun, moon and stars and everything was already created before ever God ever said unto Moses or, whatever called it.  The sun is rising and setting then the same as it is now, but you see on that day there that God spoke to.., that’s the day, that’s the day that he was in that cloud, them 6 days the sun rising up and Israel encamped around the mount, and they would look at that, the cloud and then every evening, from 3 around to 9, that cloud was, was a fire.  Now I got 10 minutes.  Now you have to dwell fast to absorb all that I have said.  Now this is the condensation of it, this is a reiteration,  this is the sum of .., and you notice I showed that ___.  Now 2nd Peter 3rd chapter now just have to read. 

Reader: But the day of the Lord will come

Dr. Kinley: Now remember I told you this was the day of the Lord.  And all that God said, and in the 4th verse of the 2nd chapter of Genesis, said, `in the day when the Lord God created heaven and the earth. 


Dr. Kinley: Said, in the day when the Lord God created heaven and earth, created in the day or in the realm of eternity, not in time.  Put the sun, moon, and stars out there to establish time and to account for years.  The vision ___ ,seen them years.  Then if He created the heavens and earth, then it would have to be or in the Day of the Lord or the eternal day.  So everything took place in the realm of eternity.  And now look, now look, now this is a burning cloud and Moses is seeing the vision, the vision of the creation of heaven and earth in the cloud.  And everything that’s in there, God created.  Is that right?  Alright, now read.

Reader:  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;

Dr. Kinley:  Now, no get that 3rd chapter and the 9th verse.

Reader:  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise

Dr. Kinley: The 8th verse

Reader: But, beloved,

Dr. Kinley:  But, beloved

Reader: Be not ignorant

Dr. Kinley:  Be not ignorant

Reader: Of this one thing,

Dr. Kinley:  Now if you’re just gonna be stupid, just, don’t be ignorant about this.  Alright.

Reader: One day is with the Lord as a thousand years

Dr. Kinley:  But one day with the Lord is a thousand years

Reader: And a thousand years

Dr. Kinley:  Each day as the sun rose and set, rose and setting, time wasn’t in there, each one of those days he saw what he described there in the first chapter of Genesis, all in the realm of eternity or in the Day which he described in the 4th verse of the 2nd chapter there.  Now do you see that now?  He sees that in the cloud.  Paul’s said, `therefore the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world were clearly seen being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and godhead so that they are without excuse.’  No excuse at all.  So you look at the visible and understand the invisible.  Now you see how it come in.  You get the point?  Now, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day with the Lord is as a 1000 years and a 1000 is as one day.  Read it, please.

Reader:  The Lord is not slack concerning

Dr. Kinley:  But the Lord is not slack concerning his promise,

Reader: As some men count slackness;

Dr. Kinley: As some men count slackness.

Reader: But is longsuffering to us-ward,

Dr. Kinley:  But is longsuffering to usward

Reader: Not willing that any should perish

Dr. Kinley: Not willing that any should perish

Reader: But that all should come to repentance

Dr. Kinley: But that all should come to repentance.  Now read on.

Reader: But the day of the Lord

Dr. Kinley: But the day of the Lord

Reader: Will come as a thief in the night;

Dr. Kinley:  All of this will be fulfilled in this, and this.., you’re in the realm of eternity, in this day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night.  Now read.

Reader: In the which the heavens

Dr. Kinley: In the which

Reader: Shall pass away with a great noise,

Dr. Kinley: In which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise

Reader: And the elements shall melt with fervent heat

Dr. Kinley:  And the elements shall melt with fervent heat.  Now look, if you are real smart, if you’re real wise, then you can see that I’m telling you that they, you’re coming in from spirit, in this cloud, a burning cloud, and that’s what Peter is looking at, coming in that cloud, and God is a consuming fire and this is eternity.  And God is a consuming fire from whence everything come into existence.  Now he’s telling you that all that God had brought into existence and when they have played their part in the role according to the purpose of God, then the heavens will pass away with a great noise.  And since it come in this way, then he say it shall be dissolved.  Read on.

Reader: The earth also

Dr. Kinley: The earth also

Reader: And the works that are therein

Dr. Kinley: And the works that are in

Reader: Shall be burned up.

Dr. Kinley: Shall be burned up.

Reader: Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved

Dr. Kinley: Now seeing then that all of these things shall be dissolved

Reader: What manner of persons out ye to be

Dr. Kinley: What manner of persons out ye to be

Reader: In all holy conversation

Dr. Kinley: In all holy conversation

Reader: And godliness.

Dr. Kinley: And godliness

Reader:  Looking for and

Dr. Kinley:  Looking

Reader: Hasting unto the coming

Dr. Kinley:  Looking, don’t say that Jesus in the 24th chapter of Matthew that the lord, `my lord delays His coming.’  You begin to smite, that unfaithful servant, you begin to smite with your fellow man.  Don’t be like that.  But that’s what somebody has said, that what the pope is saying now.  That’s what the Pope John the 23rd has said, and they demoted Gabriel too because they didn’t, cause Christ didn’t come back the 2nd time as he thought.  Now look Doc, you see Dr. Bass, now Christ in you, Christ has already come in you.  John 4:24.  I want the first epistle of John the 4th chapter, `beloved, believe not every spirit,’ reads like this, `try the spirit of God’ and try and find if that’s the devil talking to you.  And whether he has knowledge of Christ ___ ___ ___, he has ___ ___ ___.  For many false prophets have gone out into the world.  Many are being deceived hereby, just putting it so you can comprehend, hereby know ye, now by, by this, every spirit that testifies that Jesus Christ is gonna come.  Is come.  Christ is a quickening spirit and you say Christ in you is the only hope of glory.  And you say, Paul said.  Christ is already come and that’s the only hope that you have of immortal glory, that spirit must abide and grow within you, now that’s not subject to consummation; that spirit is the Father that is within you and yet you are not consumed.  Peter said the Lord knows how to deliver the godly and reserve the wicked unto the day of judgement to be punished, just like Sodom and Gomorrah.  Read on, please.

Reader:  Looking for and hasting

Dr. Kinley:  Looking for, hasting coming

Reader: And

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen, if you would look for a hasting coming of the Lord, if that was what you’re looking for.  You mean to tell me, `I don’t, I don’t feel well tonight.’  You’re gonna be caught by surprise.  That day of the Lord is gonna sneak up on you as a thief in the night.  The Congress and the pope all over the world is talking about desegregation and segregation, while they’re looking to establish integration in schools.  You better get integrated in the spirit of Christ and get on up out of the flesh.  Alright, read on.

Reader: And hasting unto the coming of the day of God,

Dr. Kinley: And hasting unto the coming of the day of God.

Reader: Wherein the heavens being on fire

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen, wait a minute.  I, I, I just kept on talking about the fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, that wherein the heavens being on fire.  God is a consuming fire and that is that Day of the Lord.  Seeing you’re looking at heavens being on fire

Reader: Shall be dissolved,

Dr. Kinley:  Shall be, not maybe, not presumed, not I feel like it, or perhaps, but it shall be dissolved.  How do you know Peter?  Don’t you see I just got through telling you how it come in.  Alright, read.

Reader: And the elements shall melt with fervent heat

Dr. Kinley:  And the element shall melt with fervent heat

Reader:  Nevertheless

Dr. Kinley:  Nevertheless

Reader: We,

Dr. Kinley: We,

Reader: According to his promise

Dr. Kinley: According to His promise

Reader: Look for new heavens

Dr. Kinley:  Look for new heavens

Reader: And a new earth,

Dr. Kinley:  And a new earth.

Reader: Wherein dwelleth righteousness

Dr. Kinley: Wherein dwelleth righteousness.  Let me say this.  Now wherein this one was an old law, and now we look for a New Covenant, just like we looked for the old heaven and the earth that Moses saw in the vision come in, we look for it to go back out that way; but nevertheless, that don’t make no difference how ___ ___ ___, we look for a new heaven and a new earth according to His promise.  I hope you’ve gotten something out of this tonight.

Nathan Higgins: Doc,  I wanna ask you a question right here.  Now right here where Sister Mary read, now it says that the Day of the Lord, the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night.  Then I look over here in 2nd Thessalonians.  Now this is 2nd Peter.  Now it would have to be for Peter to write another letter.  Now over in 2nd Thessalonians it says that that Day shall not come except there be a falling away first.

Dr. Kinley:  Yes.  Well now, now that was what I was trying to tell you a while ago when I kept talking about them devils incarnated in these bodies.  And remember I kept telling you about that.  Well now, that Day should not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin, or the devil, be revealed.  Now everyone of you that knows the truth and of everyone of these hypocrite preachers no sooner than he can open his mouth, he’s spotted, he’s revealed.  And Satan setting over there in the Vatican, the Pope, claiming that he’s the head of the church, occupying the seat of Peter.  Is that right?  Now we were in that 2nd Thessalonians, that’s what I was talking about, Satan being transformed as an angel of light or the pope, taking the place of Christ.  Now he’s been revealed to us as the devil and his imps and all the whole satanic body is nothing but Babylon or confusion, and so also Protestantism come right out of `em, so you got the same thing.  And if there’s false teachers among the people back here, false teachers among you.  Now you discern as the spirit discerns.  One of the gifts, now you discern who’s telling you the truth up here in the pulpit and you quit paying the devil to tell you all this, this destructible lies.  Quit paying, quit riding him around in a cadillac.  You understand.

Nathan Higgins:  Yeah, what I been looking with that, I was looking at that priest you see, in other words there ain’t gonna be.., as it was under the law, going out there and praying for it.  That’s what I’m looking at it.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right, that’s right.

Nathan Higgins:  To bring that up, because that’s why it too the 2nd letter of this epistle. 

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right.

Nathan Higgins: Because that priest went out there on the Day of Atonement, I’m saying that they looked like there…


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