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13) * 1967: THE HOLY SPIRIT IN YOU, *



by Dr. Henry C. Kinley


Los Angeles, California


originally recorded by Dr. Carl F. Gross on reel to reel recorder

transferred to audio cassette by Geraldine Rothstein

1 90 minute audio cassette


Catalog Number: 67 HSGC



originally transcribed by Mary Springer

originally proofread by Gerry Rothstein



first proofreading: Mary Colucci

second proofreading: Michael Rothstein

third proofreading: Susan Ameigh

fourth proofreading: Gerry Rothstein


fifth proofreading: the International Public Relations Committee

approved by the International Public Relations Committee: 1997



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Moderator:  The founder and dean of the school and the author of God the Original Archetype Pattern of the Universe:  Dr. Henry C. Kinley.

Dr. Kinley:  Thank you ever so much.  I’m always happy and glad to be here to talk with you about the purpose of God through the dispensations and ages.  I want to firstly admit that here in the past few weeks I have been somewhat in a very state of depression.  I’m troubled.  I’m concerned.  But I don’t want to stay here overtime.  They want to get out of here so another meeting can follow this one.  But one of the things that’s important for me to tell you is, I know why I’m in the state and the condition that I am in.  I know.  I understand it thoroughly.  Many reasons.  Some of ‘em I could convey to your mind and say it to you real simply, plainly.  You could check up on your own self and see whether I have told the truth about it or not.

I’m just going to give you one, one example.  Now we’ve got all kinds of committees down here.  And you have been requested to go out into the highways and hedges and ask the people to come to school, to bring somebody along with you that they might be, have their understanding illuminated.  Some of those who have been coming around here for a while and went off.  You have no report on ‘em, you don’t know nothing about them.  And some of them that have done that that are the cause of them being that way.  They come theirself, but they don’t never have no report for the other fellow.  Now there’s no need for you to argue with me.  You know who they are and so forth and so on.  We’ve had new people to come here and leave their names and addresses and what not.  And we have asked you.., some of ‘em come two or three times, and we’ve have asked you to contact them and try to encourage and inspire them to come back.  And some of us are the very reason why they don’t;

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  in other words they haven’t received any inspiration at all from you.  And as Sister Evelyn Winthrop said, very well said, that we have gotten up here, we have taught you the reality of God.  No foolishness.  No fooling.  Cannot be gainsaid, or refuted, or disputed by anybody.  And we’ve had something to go along with that and I told you about that a multiplicity of times.  It’s one thing to run your mouth and it’s another thing to live the life.  Get the point?  One thing to be blessed with the gift of gab, extemporaneous oratory, good and bad manners, or the diff.., the knowledge of the difference between one and the other, and then for a thing to be what it oughta be.  There’s a whole lot of difference between that.  Do you understand what I’m talking about?

Student Body:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  In other words, there’s a difference like this:  between the reality of the thing and a ‘pretend to be’:  just sharp hypocrisy, deception, deceit, to put-up a front, as the Pharisees and the scribes did.  And Messiah said they was full of dead men’s bones, inwardly.  That’s something else.

Now for better than a year I have tried to talk to you plain.  I told you what was going to happen.  I’ve even told you, went so far as to tell you, you can do the same thing.  We’ve tried to bring you out of delusions into reality.  The reason for it is because you are coming down to the close of this age, where you shall either reap the benefits of your labors, be rewarded eternal life or eternal damnation.  This is not a play thing, this is not just some foolishness.  There is nothing in the world any more important, nothing nowhere, any more important than for you to have a profound knowledge of God, and an experience within yourself.

Now you know there never has been a time in the history of the world…  You can go get a Reader’s Digest, World Telegram, or any of the up-to-date books to give you the statistics and the records of the numbers of different sects and cults and creeds and what not, is going on on the face of the earth.  New ones springing up every year, being incorporated and chartered.  All kinds of factions splitting off just like a cell and forming another.  It’s just a common thing.  There’ll be more next month and next year, if next year comes, than there was this year; and hallucinations and every kind of thing…  Now you listen at me.  I told you we wanna get out of here on time.  So what time you’re here, be here.

Men are taking all kinds of pills, trying to get some kind of an experience, as they say go off on a trip or something or other like that.  Something new thing happen to ‘em.  They are trying everything:  drugs, dope and all that kind of thing, trying to get some different experience to what they ordinarily have in life.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  They’re shooting rockets and things up in the sky, trying to investigate what’s up around the moon and on Mars and Jupiter and Venus and first one thing and another.  Now you know that’s so.  Now these are things that marks the end of this age; just like we told you about this war over here in the Middle East.  Now I told you that it had been repeated over and over again, and the people still haven’t learned it; in other words, let me say this, now we told you about the Children of Israel coming out of Egypt, putting the blood on each side of the linters (lintels?) of the door and above the door posts, and it was dark that night.  Is that right?  And they ate that passover.  Well now Yahshua the Messiah died out there.  He is the lamb.  This is to point right to it:  there’s your four points of blood, one on this side of the door and up over the lintel of the door, and here you’ve got His blood in the basin, and course naturally they had to pierce Him.  Now any idiot can tell you that.  Anybody can read the Bible and tell you that.  Then you read the Bible, and where it says that Yahshua, Yahshua was crucified out here.  And now it turned dark over the face of the earth from the sixth to the ninth hour.  Is that right?  Now anybody can read that.  Little children that go to school, grade school, can read that.  Now what this is here is a fulfillment of that; jot and tittle.

And as we go on, we say now that the Children of Israel went through the Red Sea and went into the wilderness here, and they were there in that wilderness 40 years.  Is that right?  They were baptized in the cloud and in the sea, and went.., now anybody’s Book will tell you that, anybody’s Bible.  Get the point?  Now you can hear ‘em say that down at the Baptist Church.  You can hear ‘em say it down at the Methodist Church.  You can hear ‘em say it in the Roman Catholic Church.  Why?  Because they’re all reading out of practically the same thing.  Is that right?

Now suppose I say to you:  why was all of this?  What’s the value of it?  What do you learn from it?  Why that in the first place?  Now then you’ve got a whole lotta hypotheses and theories about it.  And then somebody else will come along and say, ‘Well, listen, just the same, it’s, that’s God’s business, and I don’t believe in meddling in God’s business.’  All them different kind of things.  But down here we’ve tried to teach you the ever presence of God, and ____ that God is quick and powerful, sharper than a 2-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing of asunder the soul and the spirit, and is a discerner of the thoughts and the intents of the mind.  Now God’s purpose is, He declared the end from the beginning.  If He declared the end from the beginning, I’m talking about the intents and purposes that’s in your mind.  Now that’s what I’m talking about right at the moment.  Well, God knows what He has purposed and He’s carrying it out through you.  So then, don’t you see He knows what your intentions are and your objectives are, even before they enter your mind?  In other words, He actually has to put it to your mind in order to carry out what He purposed.  Then why is it He wouldn’t know what, what, what you think about and what your intentions are?  And they affect every part of you.  That’s your mind.., the discerner of the thoughts and the intents of the mind.  Well now, those are the things down here that we try to tell you about and bring you face to face with reality.  And some of the things that the people that come down here do when they leave here, I’m gonna tell you the truth about it, it, it, it would, it would frighten me to set up under all of the things that they’ve had the opportunity to learn and to and to be, come into direct contact with and then act like they act.  You just haven’t learned the lesson.

Now let me explain myself.  I remember that Dr. Roger Jackson said that he was traveling en route to.., from Ohio back to L.A. and his car went out of control on the road.  And there was several people that are setting right here, in the car with him.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  And they just spoke the words and that automobile straightened out.  ____ ____ every one of them, just before the ditch.

Now what I have taught is this, now this is what I’ve taught:  I have taught that God is ever present; never no time absent.  Do you see what I’m talking about?  And when you call on Him according to His purpose and out of His heart, it won’t be next week.  It’ll be right now.  Now then Dr. Dennis got up there and told you practically the same thing, identically the same thing last night.  Now that’s what I have been teaching.  I’ve been trying to tell you that.

Truthfully there is a God.  And Peter put it this way, God is not slack concerning His promise as some men count slackness.  Well, what’s going on then?  This is why you’re not destroyed as of now:  for He’s long suffering to usward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to the knowledge of the truth; just having patience with you, while you’re forever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.  Now listen folks, if it won’t do you no good, how do you expect it to help somebody else out there?

Now I don’t care what it is you do.  It doesn’t make any difference.  Now let me, let me, let me give you a little eye opener on what I’m talking about.  Now I have never taught you people, I refused to do it, to teach you that it is a harm.., that it’s harm and it’s a sin to drink a, take a drink of anything.  I’m not gonna teach nothing like that.  Now do we have in our Sunday School lesson and so forth and so on total abstinence from intoxicating liquors and beverages?  I’m not gonna teach nothing like that.  But right when I won’t teach that, I’m surely not gonna teach you to just hang up under a bottle until you just get all every kinda way.  I’m not going to teach that either.  You’d be better off to totally abstain or let it alone, if you can’t handle it right and then you got to control in here.  Now I’m just, I brought out, I’m just talking about whiskey there.  Now can you understand what I’m talking about?  You’re not that dumb that you can’t understand.  I’m not gonna teach that.  Then because I won’t teach it, some of ‘em go out there and get all drunked up every, and every kind of thing, ‘Well, that’s what Dr. Kinley’s teaching.’  You’re a liar, I never taught nothing like that.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  And I never intend to teach nothing like that.  And I don’t see that it’s proper and it’s right for me as your founder and dean just have something hide around and carry on like that.

Anything that you can get, it’s out in the open anyhow, you just don’t know it.  You’re not hid.  Nobody hid at all.  But I do say that the Holy Spirit encouched within you and in your conscience, and listen, you know it, I’m not telling you a thing new, you already know it, because you got that going on up there all the time, them limitations; and stand the control.  Know when you got enough to eat, Dr. Gross, and know when you got enough to drink if it’s water.  In absolute control.  Now that’s what I have taught, and you quit laying that stuff on me.  Going out there and acting a fool.  Yes, me myself, if I wanna take a drink, I’ll take a drink; that’s my business.  I’m not gonna hide nothing from you.  If it’s wrong for me to take a drink, it’s wrong for you to take one.  If it’s wrong for you to take one, it’s wrong for me to take one.  But in this case, it just don’t happen to be.  Where the wrong comes in at, is when you, even your conscience is telling you that about anything.  Now that was something physical.  Now you can understand what I’m talking about there when I’m talking about physical things.

Now I wanna tell you a lie is not physical.  Love is not physical.  Hate is not physical.  That’s not physical at all, even though it does manifest itself through the physical body.  It just manifests itself through the physical body, it’s not physical.  Those are attributes.  And you don’t take them on a plate or in a bottle or something like that.  You don’t do it that way.  I want you, I want you to understand what I’m talking about.  And I want you to know this:  when you violate those things, I want you to know, there never has been and never will be a sin committed in heaven or on earth.., everyone will be punished.  You cannot get by with nothing.  As some people say, ‘Well, look, there’s so and so and so and so, if they can do it and go to heaven, I can too.’  Well, I’m just telling you plain, straight out, it’s not like that.  They can’t go and neither can you.  Now you can understand plain talk.

Now here was Messiah, He come along.  There was the scribes, the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Zealots, and the Essenes, and others, and still cropping up.  Now, He didn’t side in with none of ‘em.  Now, you got all of these various different sects and cults and creeds all over the face of the earth.  That’s why this school was put together and chartered under the state law.  Now, I didn’t say heaven was chartered, I said the school.  They will not let us come out there and teach what we teach you down here.  They will not do it.

Now don’t start nothing with me, I’m 50 years old in this thing. 35 years I’ve had a knowledge, and I preached in the pulpit for 15 years and didn’t know what it was all about.  Now, if I’m gonna tell you about myself, you know good and well I don’t care nothing about the other fellow.  Now, what we need here and what we must have here is the reality of the thing.  Now, we’re either gonna ____ ____  and lost and what not…  And I have struggled with tears, day and night to try to get you to comprehend and to understand.  Now, I did that.  I did that for a whole..,  I mean born down on it more extensively in the last year.  And then look, tell you day by day what’s gonna go on, if I want to do it.  There hasn’t anywhere in the world anything important that is went on in this past year, not a thing of any importance, but I haven’t told you about it.  And I told you this:  now it’s possible for you to learn the truth and to save your souls.  I told you clean.  I told you clear.  I told you the truth.  Sometimes it hurts.

Just like when we went to the Bahai meeting.  Now everybody knows it’s not customary for me to run around from one church to the other, and one place to the other with them that does go.  I encourage you to go and search and investigate everything in the world.  Don’t I tell you all to go to the Baptist Church?  Don’t I tell you all to go to the Methodist Church?  Don’t I tell you all to go?  Just go to any church.  Don’t I tell you that?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  And then for many years.  And I, I, I, here, until here right recent, I wouldn’t go with you.  The reason why I wouldn’t go with you, because I don’t want somebody to think, I don’t want none of these hypocrite preachers out there to think, or to feel, or imagine that I have to be along with you to keep them from proselyting a new thing and them taking my, my ministers.  I don’t want ‘em to think that, because it’s not so.  That’s why I don’t go.  There they are, take them.  If you find anything out there any better than what we have to offer you down here, cut out.  All I ask you to do, come back and tell me, so I can go too. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) That’s right.  And if you can lick me, you got the whole gang licked.  That’s right, just come back and let me know something about it.  Now, it’s just not out here.  And I’ve faced you up with the reality of it.

Yes, I’m hurt.  I’m deeply concerned about the conduct and the deportment of the people that the world is looking at out here that attends to this, attends to this class.  And all of the things that come to me, I’m complaining about ‘em.  And I wanna tell you this:  if your, listen at me now, if your conduct and your deportment, after coming down here to this school, if it’s not the truth out there, and Paul says, ye are our epistles.  You are our epistles, read and known of all men.  Now, people looking at you, lotta times they get the wrong perception of you, I’m not saying they won’t, but the things that you do which you and them both know is wrong and you shouldn’t do, I’m telling you, you’re gonna have to pay for it, that’s blaspheming against the Word of God.  That’s just open blaspheming, that’s all it is.  And you’re gonna have to pay for that too.  If you come down here and say, ‘Well, I know this is right down here,’ and inviting somebody to come down here, then you go out there and living one of them kinda lies.  And they can’t see nothing good within you at all, one way or the other.  It is about time to go home now.  Got the wrong influence.

Now we’ve asked you to go out here and bring in the people:  preachers, teachers, and Baptist preachers, Methodist preachers and Roman Catholic.  All of ‘em out there have access to this pulpit and we haven’t isolated or discriminated against nobody.  Right?

Student Body:  Right,

Dr. Kinley:  You’ve been here with me and we’ve permitted them to get up here and disagree.  I don’t appreciate it if they disagree with me on something I teach, they don’t think it’s right.  I don’t get none of ‘em no ____ ____ saying they believed with what I’m talking about.  ____ ____ ____.

Let’s have this thing heart to heart, because now, here’s the reason why:  because we don’t have to try to make a God be around, just like it was here, the time we’ve been going to Bahai meetings, and I’ve been going along with you.  Now, their custom and practice is to get up and read something out of the Bahai Book.  And they say, ‘There, let’s pray.’  They get up and read what they call a prayer. I said no, no sir, it’s not like that.  Nobody writing out no prayers for nobody.  Now, that would sound strange to some people, because that’s been their custom all their life that they’re teaching in the Roman Catholic Church and that’s their teaching in a lotta of these churches.  ‘Here’s a nice little prayer here in the prayer book.’  And they’re very particular about the reading of it, just like you have the ritual for many other things.  Now we disagree with the whole thing.

Now, here’s why we disagree with it.  It isn’t because we have a different Bible than anybody else.  It’s not that.  It’s not just because we wanna be contrary and different from somebody else.  That’s not it.  But the reality of the thing is this:  there’s always somebody saying, ‘Well, you read over there in Matthew 6:9, the Lord’s prayer, a divine book, says:  ‘Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.’  You say that’s the disciples prayer; you just get mocked and ____ ____.  I beg your pardon, that is not the Lord’s Prayer.  ‘And thy kingdom come, thy will be done.’  And all, every which way they’re talking about, He’s gonna jump down out of the sky now and set up a kingdom on earth and rule the earth for a thousand years.  Now that’s not the way it is.

Now the Lord’s Prayer, 17th chapter of Saint John, now that’s where He, where He was at when He did the praying, was out there in the Garden of Gethsemane.  Great drops of sweat dropped off of Him out there in that Garden.  ‘Well, what’s He praying out there in the Garden for?’  You have to tell me something.  It’s got to become a reality.  Why was it great drops of sweat?  Why did He go in the Garden?  Why did He tell the disciples to tarry ye here while I go yonder and pray?  What for?  Until some of these things can become a reality to you, just reading it don’t mean nothing.  As we’ve told you time and time again, anybody can get up here and read the Bible.  You don’t have to come down here to read the Bible, you ought to have one in your own home.  But now, what you got in there… Now here, let, let, let me explain this, now here’s why I don’t believe in getting up here and reading.  I don’t…  Yes, did, David did get a lotta prayers out of there.  I’m not arguing with that.  But now the very same one that taught the disciples to pray before He died, very same one, and the very same one that prayed out there in the Garden of Gethsemane is in you making the intercession for you, setting right there and you don’t need to read it out of no book.  See that now?  You are the epistle yourself.  Maybe you don’t, maybe you don’t like that.  Romans 8:25 and 26, let’s read it out of the Bible.

Mary Gross:  But if we hope for that which we see not,

Dr. Kinley:  But if we hope for that which we see not.  Can’t you see something in a book?  Alright, read.

Mary Gross:  then do we with patience wait for it.

Dr. Kinley:  then do we with patience wait for it.

Mary Gross:  Likewise

Dr. Kinley:  Likewise.  Now just like that.  Alright, likewise.  Read.

Mary Gross:  the spirit also helpeth our infirmities

Dr. Kinley:  The spirit.  The spirit.  Now that’s not something somebody wrote down, but the Spirit helpeth our infirmities.  Alright, read.

Mary Gross:  for we know not what we should pray for as we ought

Dr. Kinley:  Now look, you’re standing up here reading something out of the book, now you turn around and you said we don’t know what we ought to pray for.  If somebody wrote down here what you oughta pray for, then you know it’s by the Book what you oughta pray for.  You see now?  Alright, read.

Mary Gross:  but the Spirit itself

Dr. Kinley:  But the Spirit, not somebody’s carnal mind writing out something, but the Spirit Itself

Mary Gross:  maketh intercession

Dr. Kinley:  maketh intercession

Mary Gross:  for us

Dr. Kinley:  for us

Mary Gross:  with groanings that can’t

Dr. Kinley:  with groanings that cannot be uttered, didn’t say nothing about writing ‘em down.  You get it?  Now let me show you what the spirit does.  We are not done with that.  Read on.

Mary Gross:  And he that searcheth the hearts

Dr. Kinley:  and he that searcheth the hearts

Mary Gross:  knoweth what is the mind of the spirit,

Dr. Kinley:  knows what’s in the mind of the spirit,

Mary Gross:  because he maketh intercession

Dr. Kinley:  Because he maketh intercession.

Mary Gross:  For the sons

Dr. Kinley:  He’s in you and making up the prayer, making intercession for you, not in the Book, in you.  Not in the cemetery either.  Then you take Hebrews over there, says He entered on through the veil, sit down at the right hand of the Father making intercessions or He’s entered into heaven itself.  I don’t need that junk you got wrote up here in this book.  Yeah, them words is nice words but that’s not it.  And that’s how they deceived the hearts of the simple.  Now listen, praying.  Read on a little further.

Mary Gross:  because he maketh intercession for the saints, according to

Dr. Kinley:  Listen, I want you to see what I’m talking about, so you don’t mess up.  For He maketh intercession for the saints

Mary Gross:  according to the will of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  According to the will or according to the purpose; in other words, the spirit in you never at no time asks for something that’s out of harmony with the purpose of God.  And every one of them prayers is an intercession that’s made by spirit, every last one of ‘em must definitely and positively be answered.  He will make some intercession.  You’re praying, talking a lotta fool talk to me.  Do you understand what I mean?  I mean that you have the Holy Spirit in you making intercession or praying for you, making intercession and and making that according to the purpose and will of God.  And you can’t tell me that the Holy Spirit’s in you making intercessions for according to the will and purpose of God, and you’re just gonna fake it.  Now, you can take that kind on junk on back to Babylon because it just don’t have no place here.

Now, we’ve demonstrated that.  Now, let me show you what I’m talking about when I say I demonstrate.  When it’s in me, in me and I have permission, permission by the spirit to speak or to utter, I don’t care what kinda disease you got, cancer just is no more than a bad cold, you have never had nothing wrong with you, physically.  When I get permission to speak, it’s gone, that’s all.  Believe it or not, it’s gone, Wallace.  That’s what the difference is.  Yes, I have a lotta compassion and sympathy on people that’s afflicted in every different kinda way and I bear those experiences in my own body because I have ‘em.  And if there was anything I could do, I would do it.  I just wouldn’t be concerned too much about their character and conduct, if it was just left up to me.  Here old boy, old girl, okay, go ahead on, but I don’t have no permission.  And there’s, there’s not a thing I can do for you without permission.  Nothing I can do for me.  Let’s get the thing straight.  But if I get permission, the Boss speaks, just like when Yahshua the Messiah was at Lazarus’s tomb, had to get the permission to speak.

Now, I’ve been doing these things for 35 years, and I have witnesses setting right here, others sitting from one time to the other, come running in here, say, ‘Look, is there anything you can do for me?  Why hurry up and do it.  I, I wanna go to work tomorrow.’  We’ve had all of that kinda junk.  Yes, that’s the way it is.  Get up and run out yonder.  And listen, I don’t know whether you remember this or not, down at Embassy auditorium when we were first coming around here and begin to get this school together, I told you to behave yourself, I haven’t forgot, then Yahweh would heal all of your diseases and it would be worked out right in this school.  I told you that.  Do you all remember?  All them that remember hold up your hands.  I told you that.  It’s a ____ ____ now, than what it was then.  Now, we’re not nearly, we’re not nearly concerned about the body and your bellyache.  I’m not, I’m not worrying about that and your physical pains and what not.  I’m not worrying about that.  Some of us would be better off dead than you would be alive.  Now, say, ‘What’d you say that for?’  I’ll tell you.  All of them things that you was doing, that you were doing that you ought not to do and you know better, I’ll put it this way, it’d be better if you had never been born.

Now we want to be ____ with the reality of things down here.  And it’s just not a form of Godliness and denying the power.  And everything is going along according to the purpose of God.  And your conduct or your deportment and conduct out here, the way that you appear to these people out here, they, they’re not reading nearly as much in the Bible as they are you.  And there’s no possibility of you having the spirit of righteousness in you, in somebody with an unseemly conduct.

Now what you look like, just to give you the picture of it.  What do you look like?  Down here in school you talk about God, this God and that, down at that school, they’ve got the truth down there ____ ____ ____ ____ down there, ‘Very smart fella,’ and a whole lotta foolishness.  That, that’s bad.  Walk up to some woman or some man and insult somebody.  Then when I get up here and tell you about them things, says, ‘Well, he don’t mean this, he means that.’  Now, if I haven’t got sense enough to tell you what I mean, how do you ever hope and expect to learn, if I haven’t got sense enough to tell you what I mean?  You don’t have to patch up nothing out there I say.  You understood everything I said today, didn’t you?  You don’t need to put no patches on it.


Dr. Kinley:  And I said what I meant, and meant just exactly what I said.  That’s it.  Let’s, let’s don’t do that.

I know.., I’ll say this and I’m through, I know it’s nine o’clock.  I’ll say this, I know brothers and sisters, it is getting harder and harder and tougher and tougher.  I know that it is.  Even the devil, he’ll kill some of you.  More problems now than we ever had in the history of the world.  We’re being tested and tried with every kind of a thing you can think of.  Me too, I don’t want to leave me out, but we can overcome, if we just have the patience, as Jesus said, you say He said, in the 24th chapter of Matthew:  in your patience possess ye your souls, I wanna tell you this, make.., wanna make this real good and clear to you:  every son that He receives, He chastises.  It’s right for God to chastise; He kills, He heals, He wounds.  He does the whole thing.  And we can’t get back at God because He chastises.  We’ll be destroyed for that kind of a thing.  We must be obedient children.  As many, as many as are led of the spirit of God, they are the sons of God.  John put it this way, ‘Beloved, what manner of love is this?.‘  What kind of love is this?  Paul said, ‘That surpasses our understanding,’ and John said, ‘What manner of love is this that the Father has bestowed upon us that we should be called the sons of God?’  Now He was manifested out there on the cross to get you out of the sinning business.  Whoever is born of God doth not commit sin.  Anytime your conscience speaks to you and the spirit in there leads you; now you don’t violate that and try to defend yourself.  You’re wrong.


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