23) NOVEMBER 20, 1974:
JEHOVAH AND OTHER ERRONEOUS DOCTRINE
by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley
Los Angeles, California
recorded by Edna Law
1 90 minute and 1 60 minute audio cassettes
CATALOG #: 74.1120
Transcribed by Mary Colucci
proofread by Geraldine Rothstein, Susan Ameigh, and Michael Rothstein
proofread and approved by International Public Relations Committee – 1996
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Dr. Kinley: This Wednesday night class.., we try to conduct it a little bit different than we do the other classes in this respect: we like to teach first and then give you some time to ask questions about the teaching. Now I’m sorry that I have to tell you this but the truth is right in the Book. We don’t have any meetings unless we tell you about the true names, the Godhead and the Father and the Creator of this universe. We just don’t have no meetings without doing it. Now, these names are in dictionaries, they’ve been in there all the time but we just haven’t made no particular study of it, the average person preaching and teaching, and consequently they have taken the King James Version of the Bible and used the terms Lord, God, and Jesus Christ and that’s as much as the majority of the people know, in particular. And then the American Revised Version, I believe it is, uses Jehovah. And now you know we are living right down in the end of this age, well the age is already ended in ’60, 1960, but just like it was in the days of Noah, Yahweh had 120 years what we might call a probationary period, while the ark was in preparing but so far as Yahweh was concerned the end had come when He told Noah to build an ark. He said the end of all.., if you wanna read it, I’ll let you read it. You better read cause often times people think that you’re trying to put something off on them, but now that’s not what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to get around to letting you know what the truth about this whole situation is. And I want to say this while I’m after it. Now here’s a book that was written by A. B. Traina, says that God, deity of the nations, all the gods of the nations or gentiles, all the gods of the nations are idols. Psalms 96 and 5. A. B. Traina is a Italian Jew. He was versed in Hebrew language, he knew the names and he wrote this book that we have here, it’s authentic, it’s genuine so far as the names is concerned. We recognize the fact that it does have some errors and mistakes in it. And you don’t have any Bible that don’t have irrespective in regard who they are written by. Now down here in this school.., now we’re not down here to have no fun and we’re not down here trying to agree with anybody either, that isn’t, that isn’t our purpose to agree with anybody. You will shortly be called to give an account for the deeds done while you’re at home in your body, in your body. It’s Yahweh’s job to give you somebody that does know, that’s His responsibility. When He created this universe, He made everything as it was to abolish your and mine excuse for ignorance and colossal stupidity. I’d like for you to read. Do you have it.
Reader: Genesis 6:13.
Dr. Kinley: Genesis 6:13. Now you pay attention to this.
Reader: And Elohim said unto Noah,
Dr. Kinley: And Elohim said unto Noah.
Reader: the end of all flesh is come before me.
Dr. Kinley: That’s right. Read on.
Reader: For the earth is filled with violence through them
Dr. Kinley: Um hum.
Reader: and behold I will destroy them with the earth.
Dr. Kinley: Um hum.
Reader: Make thee an ark of gopher wood.
Dr. Kinley: Now you see that. Now He’s telling him the end is already come so far as He’s concerned. You see that now. Now you prepare an ark. Now the point I was trying to make there is trying to show you that the end, so far as Yahweh was concerned, was already come before Noah ever started on the ark. Now I told you 1960 was the end and you’ve been on an extended probationary period for 14 years. Now you might as well know how I get those calculation like that, I don’t have the time to go into all those details, but we did write a book and we explained all of those details and things in the book.
So now getting back to this, A. B. Traina being an Italian Jew, he writes here and tells you about the true names and where the erroneous names and all come from that you have in your King James Bible, in the Bible. Now here’s the thing that’s so important about it. Now in Ten Commandments, they have written up there that Pharaoh was not drownded in the Red Sea and then he went back, after his host was drownded in the Red Sea, and took his son, he’s the first born of man and beast, when that destroying angel slew ‘em that didn’t have that blood over the doors and on each side of the lintels, of each side of the doorpost, was destroyed or was, died and showed the Pharaoh went back and took his son and took and laid him in the arms of Molech, an idol. Now when you stop and think about the many people, the very best that you could find on earth to help him to write that, what they call the Ten Commandments, the very best among the theologians as it is called or those that was acquainted with the Bible. Now that’s the kind of a mess they made. They say that Pharaoh wasn’t drownded in the Red Sea. It’s that way in the Ten Commandments picture. And he went back, Pharaoh went back and took his son and laid him in the arms of Molech, Molech was an idol deity. Now I want to repeat that and I want you to bear that in mind so you can catch on to what I’m talking about now. Now Molech was not an Egyptian deity. Molech was a Canaanite deity. And Solomon built Molech a temple. Now there’s them smart men, Psalms 136:14 and 15. I want you to see it now, they said that he wasn’t drownded in the, in the Red Sea and they showed what he did. They didn’t even know that Molech was a Canaanite deity, and Pharaoh definitely was drownded in the Red Sea. Now that’s the way that is. But millions on top of millions of people don’t know no better. And when you tell ‘em something that they have never heard before, then they’re all up and say, ‘that man don’t know what he’s talking about.’
Now I make it my business to gather up all kinds of books and we’ve got many thousand dollars worth of books in this school, an extensive library by the smartest there is in this world, Roman Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox Jews and every other kinda thing that you think of: Jehovah’s Witness, we got all of their books. And when ever we tell you something we’re prepared to prove it.
Now I don’t draw no salary in this school, I never have drawn one. This school is 43 years old, there never would have been a school in the first place (I can say that since I’m the founder of it) there never would have been a school in the first place if they would let us teach as the scriptures say. Now anybody with any just common horse sense and apply that horse sense, mother wit that you have, you oughta know that we didn’t pay any attention… If my father, if my name is Kinley, if that was.., if that is my name, you know what my father’s name is, then why is it that you can’t see.., it just don’t make sense and you know it don’t, for you around talking about the Lord, God and Jesus Christ, the Son of God and the Lord. Got lords many, every which a way. Now I’ve, I’ve missed bringing a Roman Catholic Bible tonight, but we’ve got three or four of ‘em there in the case. And they’ve got the name Yahweh in there, they say that Yahweh is correct and right. We’ve brought these books down here before and we did this through.., this is the 43rd year of this school, going into the 44th year, and we’ve carried in our classrooms books, just a whole library, encyclopedias, many volumes of ‘em and Bible dictionaries and every other thing. Follow? And whenever we tell you something that’s the way it is. Now plus the fact, now I used to be.., I haven’t forgotten about Psalms 136, I haven’t forgot it at all, so I don’t want you to think I forgot it, and I’m not gonna miss reading it to you, but I just wanna show you that the Bible does say definitely in plain words that any idiot can understand that Pharaoh definitely was drownded in the Red Sea. And he would have to be. Why did I, why would I say that? The scriptures can’t be broken. Dr. Harris maybe you better read that.
Reader: To him which divideth the Red Sea into parts for his mercy endureth forever and made Israel to pass through the midst of it for his mercy endureth forever, but overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red Sea.
Dr. Kinley: Is that plain enough for you? I want to know is that plain enough for you?
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Now you can just be a touch stupid and understand that. See that now? Now you just stop and think, about 20 million dollars spent making Ten Commandments and this man Dr. Gross, your president, wrote to Cecil B. Demille, they had a.., the silent moving pictures of Ten Commandments and we found out that he was contemplating on making the new talking commandments, making a new Ten Commandments, the talking picture. And Dr. Gross wrote, we have the letter at home, and asked him if I could be on his staff. Wrote back and said he was filled up. Now if you have access to the book, the comprehensive outline of The Ten Commandments and all, you get the names of those great theologians that helped him to write that book. He gathered ‘em up, the best that he could find everywhere, and paid ‘em a, quite an awful lot of money to write those books. Now you find here that Pharaoh was drownded in the Red Sea. Is that right? It says that. Now if you go over there in Exodus and read about it over there in Exodus, then, it doesn’t, it don’t just speak that plain and so then they just thought they could get by with it. Well now, that’s not the way we do things here. Now I would have to go through all of that rigamarole, I could, I could show you how to go in and you could help yourself even without reading the 115th division of Psalms. Let me show you how, how you do that, let me show you how you can do that. First this man, Adam, was taken from the dust and bowels and womb of mother earth, that’s where he come from, so when he disobeyed, he was put back in the ground from whence he came. Is that right? Now do you see that? Now then, coming on down to the flood, it’s more pronounced on that big chart down there. We do everything that we can possibly do to show you how it works. Well now, Adam, he’s buried, he’s died, he had to, had to die, and you have to line everything up by this pattern. This is the pattern here. You have to line everything up by that, you got the blood here and your water there. Now that means this: that you have to come on back here in pure spirit and line up everything right through the creation and you have to keep it that way, never digress or deviate from it, if you do, you’re wrong. Right straight on down, right straight on down. Doesn’t make any difference where you go, all down there, look, look, look at that chart down there, it’s made just that way. Now this is what we have done, we have taken your Bible, I’m talking about the whole of it, every bit of it, left out nothing, and put it together in such a way that you can tell that Yahweh does exist, and everything He made, He made it to abolish your excuse for not knowing Him as He is. Now there’s something else I should tell you before we move from there, Yahweh created the devil. Now he is not really Yahweh’s adversary, He’s yours. Now he, the job He made him for to do, Satan is doing a good job of that. Now you just should give him credit for that. And just like Yahshua the Messiah said, He said that the scriptures couldn’t be broken. Now that’s the thing we need to learn, the scriptures can not be broken. And therefore Judas, he couldn’t do anything different the way that he done and neither could Messiah do anything any different than what He done, cause the scriptures just couldn’t be broken. He had, the Messiah had to go away as is written of Him, and Judas had to go the way, written of him. One didn’t have no more of a way of getting out of it than the other one did. And Yahshua said that the scriptures, that all that the Father had given Him He kept but the Son of Perdition, none is lost but the Son of Perdition. What’s that for? That the scriptures might be instituted.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: Now the devil, this is what he’s done to you folks, you not knowing and eager to do right and listening to your ministers. You tried to do what they told you and taught you to do, I done the same thing. So I’m no, I’m, I’m no different than what you are so far as that part of it is concerned. I did that which I knew or at least I thought what was right, but now I want to show you that Yahweh.., and we wanna watch to see now this thing and I’m gonna try my best tonight to show you just what’s going on. Dr. Harris, Romans 1:19 and 20 one more time.
Reader: Because that which may be known of Yahweh,
Dr. Kinley: Now listen. You can know something about Yahweh. Now he’s gonna tell you why pretty soon. You can know. Now he didn’t say believe or feel like it. Says that which may be known of Yahweh. Read on.
Reader: is manifest in them,
Dr. Kinley: Is manifested in these people right here, the Jew. Man was made in the likeness and image of Elohim. Listen He made it that way so that you would have no excuse, say, ‘well, I don’t know it.’ Abolished your excuse right there. You see that now. Alright, read on.
Reader: For Yahweh has showed it unto them.
Dr. Kinley: Now you see? Yahweh has showed it unto them, that is to say, He has revealed it unto them. Alright now read on.
Reader: for the invisible things of him,
Dr. Kinley: Now that for is a, is a conjunction that joins together a complete thought. Now, since you read that, I have a statement to make right here. I told you I was not.., I never have been on no salary. We haven’t had no teachers in this school that’s ever been on a salary, there never has had one and we don’t never expect to have one. See that? So now I.., even if I was on a salary and since I am not on no salary, I’m not paid to get up here and lie to you. I ain’t afraid to tell you the truth. There’s something else too about that. 43 years that I’ve been cussed out and beat up, bodily beat up by the black Muslims, 906 Hopkins Street in Cincinnati, Ohio, bad as I’ve been beat up and mistreated by my own relatives and some… If I had not seen a vision and had a revelation I’d look every last one of you straight in the face and tell you every last one of you ‘go to hell, I wouldn’t fool with it.’ I wouldn’t even been here tonight as bad as I felt, been questionable with me whether I would be able to come to school tonight or not, but I knew that new people would come here and most particular at this time, so I scrambled on out and I come down here. Now, if I told you that Yahweh gave me a vision and revealed it to me, just like He did to the rest of the apostles and Moses and them, and John and them. And now I’m under no obligation to stand up here and lie to you. And then, I want you to know this too: Yahshua the Messiah said this, ‘now if I don’t do the works of Him that sent Me, don’t you believe it.’ Now my story is this: if I don’t do better than your pope and your orthodox Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses and the other Protestants, if I don’t do no better than they do and if I can’t do the works that no other man can do then don’t you believe me. Now that oughta be fair, hadn’t it? That ought to be fair. Wouldn’t you think so?
Student Body: Yes
Dr. Kinley: Yahshua the Messiah went around and preached and the Sanhedrin Council said through Nicodemus, said, ‘Master, we know you’re a teacher come from Yahweh.’ How did you know it? ‘No man can do the miracles that you do except Yahweh be with him.’ Yahweh’s got to be right in him, cause no man can do the miracles that you do except Yahweh be with him. Now I wanna tell you this folks, people have gotten out of wheelchairs this year, I haven’t concerned myself too much through the years, course it’s followed all the way down whenever the occasion arises, people have gotten out of wheelchairs, crippled up, bones broken up, you looked at ‘em Dr. Harris.
Dr. Harris: Right, right.
Dr. Kinley: You’ve seen ‘em too, haven’t you?
Man 1: Right.
Dr. Kinley: You’ve seen ‘em too, haven’t you sister Mary?
Mary Gross: That’s right.
Dr. Kinley: Right in Springfield Ohio and other places around even Dr. Harris’ own patients.
Dr. Harris: Right.
Dr. Kinley: He said he had to die. Is that right Dr. Harris?
Dr. Harris: That’s correct.
Dr. Kinley: His wife is sitting back there too. Sister Farley.
Sister Farley : Yes sir.
Dr. Kinley: Would you stand up and let these folks see you. Now that’s her husband that I’m, that I’m talking about and your uncle.
Dr. Harris: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Is that right? Thanks Sister Farley. Now that man had cancer.
Dr. Harris: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Now listen, I can’t heal nobody. Now I told you plain. Yahshua the Messiah said, ‘I can of my own self do nothing, my Father in Me He doeth the works, not Me.’ I can’t even heal my ownself, now how am I gonna heal you? Now where did that come, that come clean with it. I don’t have a thing to do no boasting about, not a thing. You got more of a right to be a boasting and blowing than I have because I seen, it isn’t by faith, I’ve seen.
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: That’s right. I looked right at it, right at it and put it down on these charts and there ain’t never been nobody here and there never will be I’ll tell you that now, there ain’t never gonna be nobody here able to dispute these things, these charts. Yes, we’ve had ‘em to try to get up here and criticize something by saying, ‘well this ain’t right,’ and he says something. Well look, now you know good and well there’s a top on this tabernacle, you’ve seen it up there, we know that too, you see that, we know there’s a top on it, but no, the devil wants, just wanna find something he can complain about. And then not only that, you see how these things are drawn in here, that’s not right, this needs be drawn around here like this. This is wrong. We know all of that. I can find more wrong with it than anybody in the place and that ain’t, that ain’t all of it. We wrote a book. And there’s no less than 175 errors in that book. Sabotaged. Is that right?
Student Body: That’s right.
Dr. Kinley: On purpose. Now what you’re dealing with folks is a hard thing. You’re dealing with something hard, something the devil just naturally will not come clean with you. He’s, he’s, he’s just bound to get up here and lie to you. Yahshua the Messiah said, ‘many false prophets,’ 24th chapter of Matthew, 21st chapter of Luke, 13th chapter of Mark, Jude and Peter and James, all of ‘em say it’s so, prophets, ‘many false prophets would come.’ Said, ‘broad is the way that leadeth unto destruction, narrow is the way that leadeth unto life.’ Is that right? It’s just a few that find it. And you just still go right on, right on, and you think that Yahweh’s gonna forgive you for your stupidity. Now He ain’t thinking about doing nothing like that. He’s gonna give you somebody to tell you the truth and then send you to the Lake if you don’t hear it. Lot of people think, ‘well I ain’t going to no lake.’ Yes you are. You either disobey Yahweh, you either obey Yahweh or go to the lake. And He don’t care nothing about what color you are and how much money you got and your friends and relatives and associates. He don’t care a thing about it. No indeed. Now I’m just, I’m not coating it, now I just have to be plain. Now you can’t hold on to reverend’s hand and reverend has a wrong meaning as two left shoes and you’re going on to heaven anyhow. Say you can’t.., now that’s all wrong folks. So now.., repeat here.
Reader: Because that which may be known of Yahweh
Dr. Kinley: Because that which may be known of Yahweh
Reader: is manifest in them
Dr. Kinley: is manifested in them,
Reader: For Yahweh has shown it unto them,
Dr. Kinley: Now look, Yahweh has revealed it to them. Yahweh’s revealed these things to Enoch and Moses and the prophets, He revealed it to ‘em, but here’s what they wrote down here, He revealed it to ‘em. And now look here folks, I would, I would like for you to know this, when Yahshua the Messiah came in through the loins of a woman He followed, right, isn’t that in the Book, the prophets. I mean He didn’t digress or deviate from the Law. I mean He followed that. Now you know by that you’re gonna have to listen and you’re gonna have to obey. How about that? Is that alright? Alright, read on Dr. Harris.
Reader: for the invisible things of him.
Dr. Kinley: Now what just a minute. Now nobody has never seen Yahweh in His fullness, nobody. Somebody say, ‘what did you say that for?’ You can’t get outside and look back and say, ‘that’s Him over there.’ Now He was manifested in His Son, all the Yahweh there was. You could see Him demonstrated and manifested in His Son, and we should see Him in one another. You see that? ‘For in Him that we live and we move and we have our being,’ that’s the 17th chapter of Acts of the Apostles, and not only that, ‘we are the offspring of Yahweh.’ Now if we’re gonna be the offspring of Yahweh then we would be a son or a daughter of Yahweh, not a Christian, if you please not a Protestant, not a Mohammedan, not a Baptist. You follow what I’m saying? You can just go ahead right on with what you’re.., whatever you want to do, just sail on with it but I’m telling you now, it’s my indispensable duty to tell you, you’ll be lost with it. That’s right, that’s what it is. It’s just not a Christian, Christianity is a failure and for you to be worshipping, ____ ____ ____, for you to be worshipping the Lord, God and Jesus Christ is just as bad as worshipping Molech (that’s a Canaanite deity), Baal , Jehovah. Now that, that sounds bad. What makes it sound so bad? It’s because we’ve been rooted and grounded in that all of our lives and somebody come up and tell us something like that; and without a study and being real careful get you all warm in the collar, you’re liable to mash somebody in the mouth about that. The devil’ll make you knock somebody down and tell you ____ just believing in the Lord, God, and Jesus Christ. You gonna get warm about it, fighting mad too. Ain’t that right. Um, um, um, um, um.
Reader: For the invisible things of him.
Dr. Kinley: Okay. I showed you Yahweh’s invisible. For the invisible things of Him, watch where this is going to now, watch so you can see where we’re coming from, which the Pope can’t do, orthodox Judaism or conservative Judaism, Protestantism, listen folks, let’s get this one straight now, never forget, nobody on earth can tell you anything about Yahweh but Yahweh Himself because He’s the only one that knows and consequently He’s the only one that can tell you. Now you stick to that. Don’t you let nobody pull you off of it, because that’s the way it is. Alright. For the invisible things of Yahweh, now watch now where we’re going to. Read.
Reader: From the creation of the world,
Dr. Kinley: Now we’ve got it from the creation of the world. See how far back we went with it. From the creation of the world, the invisible things of Yahweh from the creation of the world. What about it?
Reader: are clearly seen,
Dr. Kinley: Now you see, you can see it clearly. David would you mind standing up and facing this audience. This is a man, Yahweh made this man in His own likeness and image. What’d He do that for? So that you don’t have no excuse for the things that come around, say, ‘well I didn’t know how He was, I didn’t understand nothing about it.’ There goes your alibi out of the window. I mean internally and externally. Every cell and every tissue, every sinew that it takes to make up this man’s body, Yahweh made him just like that, so that he wouldn’t have no excuse; that is to say man is made in the likeness and image of God. Well now, somebody might say, ‘well, look if this was.., if this was Adam, and Eve was in Him, he’s not pregnant with the woman.’ No, this.., the man has female hormones in his body too, for your information. And the woman, she has masculine hormones in her body too. Thank you David. Now Yahweh made the thing that way so that you and I could look right straight at Him and our excuses would be abolished. Now right recently what we have done is this, there’s a sun in the sky out there, it does what we call rise in the east and sets in the west. It did that this morning, it’s been doing that ever since. How about that. What’s that for? That’s the sun in the ethereal heaven to point out the son of Yahweh or Adam here. Now if we get understood that Yahweh made that sun to rise then we would know that His Son, Yahshua the Messiah, would rise from the dead and He ascended in a vision or a cloud, listen and then He set down. Now that Son rise, son ascended and reaches it’s zenith and Son sets down at the right hand of the Father. What’s that all about? So that you won’t have no excuse. Then somebody around standing lies about it, preaches, ‘well, the disciples come and stole Him out of the tomb.’ And every morning the sun is rising faithfully and sets down. That’s a lie. Look, look, they couldn’t.., you can’t see that sun in the sky cause that’s too hot to handle, one out there in Joseph’s new tomb. They work together. Now this is what Jehovah, Ambassador College said. Ambassador College said that Yahshua the Messiah, Jesus Christ they call him, said He rose from the dead Saturday afternoon. I’ve got to question that. Did anybody in this building ever see the sun rise in the afternoon of any day?
Student Body: No, no.
Dr. Kinley: When you don’t know what it’s all about, you make such colossal blunders. You don’t know why these things are as they are, then you just make all kinds of blunders. Now Sabbath means rest. Now if Yahshua the Messiah was fulfilling as He said He was doing, when He was laid to rest in Joseph’s new tomb if He rose from the dead on the Sabbath then He would have broke the rest. See you’re too stupid to see that. We see every error you can make. You see that? Now Yahweh, right from the creation of the world, everything He made including the atom, He made it a proton, and a neutron and electron. This pattern is threefold. Man is threefold, he’s pneuma, psyche, and soma or soul, body, and spirit. You have a Most Holy Place, a Holy Place, and a Court Around About. You have a proton, a neutron, and electron In a cell you have a nucleolus, nucleus and a cell body. Everything is made up that way. Then here’s Yahweh: Yahweh pure spirit takes on a shape and a form. This shapelessness here, don’t pay any attention to this, well then they’re talking about the cloud, that… He takes on this shape and form. What is the shape and form? It’s the attributes united into a.., organized into an organic body, and that’s only seen in a vision. So then this.., this inorganic here and this organization here, this is one, this is two, and this is a three, here, just is was Most Holy Place, a Holy Place and Outer Court. No excuse. There you walking around talking about Lord, God and Jesus Christ and here you stand. 150th division of Psalms, hold it right there and we’ll be back to where we were there, and the last verse. I’m just showing you. And when Yahweh decided to destroy man and beast off of the earth and everything.., the breath of life, the breath of life, the breath of life died in that flood. Alright. Read 150 and the last verse.
Reader: let everything that has breath praise Yahweh.
Dr. Kinley: Let everything that has breath praise Yahweh. Now somebody said, ‘that old funny name, I ain’t gonna do that.’ And here you are, you’re saying it all the time but you’re just too stupid to know that that’s what you’re doing. There’s a beast out there walking around, everything that has breath. (DR. KINLEY BREATHES AND LAUGHS) How ’bout that. Then somebody come along and say something about, ‘ya, ya, ya, ya, ya.’ (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS) How about that. Just unnecessary stupidity and colossal ignorance. Right? Read.
Reader: for the invisible things of him
Dr. Kinley: For the invisible things of Him.
Reader: from the creation of the world
Dr. Kinley: From the creation of, now get that straight man was created and made in the likeness and the image of the Son of Yahweh, Elohim, so he wouldn’t have no excuse. Now
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It’s a pattern. ____. Yahshua the Messiah said, ‘believe me.’ Listen at what I’m saying now, ‘believe me,’ he said, ‘I am in the Father and the Father’s in Me, believe me for My very works sake.’ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ We know you come from Yahweh, and here’s how we know: You out there at Lazarus’ tomb, tell them to roll the stone away and Lazarus comes forth, and just… That’s it Lazarus. ____ the whole thing that’s the power we are talking about, ‘Lazarus come forth.’ I’m telling you folks, we just don’t.., not gonna have no excuse and Yahweh’s not going to accept none. But He made the devil out there ____ ____ ____ Yahweh Elohim. Alright, read on Dr. Harris.
Reader: For the invisible things of him
Dr. Kinley: For the invisible things of Him
Reader: from the creation of the world,
Dr. Kinley: We wanna remind you now, don’t you forget now. And I’m telling you now, the Pope can’t do it, orthodox Judaism can’t do it, Protestantism can’t do it. Take it on back to the purpose or the Godhead. Take it on back there. In creating He come on down. And told us line upon line, precept upon precept, and line upon line and precept upon precept, and line upon line and precept upon precept. He can’t do that in all of the dispensations and ages. He can’t do that unless Yahweh be right in Him, ‘What’s that ____ Doc?’ You can’t take your Book and read it and understand all that unless I read it. You sit tight ____ I’m gonna show you your Bible. These people have college educations, have a degree of doctor of philosophy, master of arts and every other kind of degree you can think of. Isn’t that right? They can’t do it. Say, ‘Oh yes you can brother, ____ ____ in the Bible.’ Answer that one. They can’t do that. Alright read on.
Reader: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen…
Dr. Kinley: Now you see it’s not hid in God, it’s right out where you can see it. It’s as clear as I can see the sky. It’s right here, even a woman, even the woman. Looking back. Clearly seen. Read.
Reader: being understood,
Dr. Kinley: Now you understood by.., you understand how He is by the things that He made. Alright, being understood by..
Reader: by the things that are made
Dr. Kinley: By the things that are made, even.., go ahead.
Reader: even His eternal power
Dr. Kinley: Even His eternal power
Reader: and supernal nature,
Dr. Kinley: And supernal nature.
Reader: so that they are without excuse.
Dr. Kinley: Now do you see that? Now I.., now I, now, now Paul is just telling you, now you just don’t have no excuse. Yahweh has abolished your excuse the way He made everything. And it’s my advice you don’t have to let one of these demonic spirits or the hypocrite preachers around telling you a whole bunch of junk. Telling you junk like this: ‘well we don’t know what’s in heaven but come on up and give me your hand and we’ll start on our way tonight, come on, and I can just see somebody, come on, come up here to the altar and be prayed for and start on your way.’ Proselyting. He wants somebody to join his junk, join his church. Now if you can get a bunch of souls to believe, just like they have here, down here, there’s quite an audience here. That right? Talking about people out here in California. They ____ ____ ____. ____ ____ down here ____ ____ holy spirit today, but they come down here ____ ____ ____ ____ five your life to God. And how God’s setting up there shedding crocodile tears, trying to get you saved. When it’s just to the opposite. Now here’s, here’s the way it is with Yahweh. He said He would laugh and mock when your fear comes. And you’re going to heaven too, and you wouldn’t acknowledge the truth. Now you’re down to it and He’ll laugh at you. Comes right in, scared to hell, I mean scared to death. Don’t be laughing at… That’s the truth, so if you think this is a lie, I’ll read it to you. Yahweh knows you’re, you’re going to, to one way or the other. He knows what you’re gonna do. It’s He that puts it in you both the will and to do. Well somebody said, ‘I’m my own free moral agent.’ Well. No, that’s your imagination. Finish that verse there, Dr. Harris.
Reader: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen
Dr. Kinley: clearly seen.
Reader: being understood by the things that are made.
Dr. Kinley: Being understood by the things that are made.
Reader: even his eternal power and supernal nature.
Dr. Kinley: Even His eternal power and supernal nature that is called the godhead.
Reader: So that they are without excuse.
Dr. Kinley: So now there’s just no excuse for that. Just no excuse. Now look here, let me say this to you. Now we just wanna use a little horse sense. Now, if the, if the Catholic Church is right, or the Roman Catholic is right or Judaism is right, all of them ought to agree. But this is what we don’t have here. We don’t have nobody in Orthodox Judaism that can prove the divine authenticity, the unerring accuracy, listen now at my words, and the absolute infallibility of Yahweh and His eternal purpose, they just don’t have it now. See that now. You don’t have it in Orthodox Judaism and you don’t have it in Roman Catholicism and you don’t have it in Protestantism. Now, that’s why we all.., listen here, am I telling the truth? Now you see here that Yahshua is His name. Now some body says, ‘now look here folks, I’m sick and tired of going down to that school, every time I go down there they talking about this and that mountain story, starting with Israel and the Red Sea, ____ ____ ____ through here the Red Sea, in the wilderness 40 years and crossed over the River Jordan and I’m just sick and tired of it, every time I go down there, I’m ____ of that repetition, I’m sick of that.’ Well every time you see a child born, whether it’s a male or female (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Whatever ____ that way you go through ____ ____. Are you tired of that? Every morning ____ ____. Are you sick of it? Everyday you get up and you come in and come on and get up and your belly ____ ____ and you go right back to the grave. Are you sick and tired of the repetition? That’s what happens now folks. There’s enough milk to get you the same way all the way all down through all the ages. And you’ll have to follow that line, this blood line and this water line, and this spirit line, you have to follow it all the way from the creation of the world on down. And if you get out of harmony, then you’ve had it. Now let me explain this, let me get this one over to you. Can’t nobody do that but Yahweh, me as a man I can not do it. I don’t have sense enough. I’m not fooling with you, so you can get straightened up too. Alright. Now what we are saying, using this ____ ____ ____ ____ about Pharaoh being overthrown in the Red Sea. You don’t have to believe that in the Book in order to find out and know about it, we know it’s repetition. It’s got to be repeated. Now look here. If Pharaoh’s overthrown in the Red Sea. Now Yahshua when He was born or come through the loins of the woman He had to come down into Egypt. He can not go out of Egypt until somebody’s dead. It just can’t be. See that now? Judas? Well I’ll tell you, who, who died up here first. Who died up there?
Student Body: Herod.
Dr. Kinley: Herod. Herod that sought that young child’s life. He had to die, and he couldn’t live. Now here’s the point. He had to die and bury, just like he was buried in the Red Sea there. Judas playing the same role, he had to die and he had to be buried here. Then here come the Messiah. He can’t get away from it, on account of this man here, first Adam, he was buried, so He has to do that too, but the difference is He resurrected from the dead and the other fellow didn’t, Judas didn’t. Here’s what I’m saying. The scriptures can not be broken. Now we can look back here and see that Pharaoh being overthrown in the Red Sea and Judas playing that role here that Pharaoh played, then Judas has got to go out and then kill himself and he’s got to be buried. Now Judas sold Him out, sold the Messiah for 30 pieces of silver. ____ ____ ____ ____, cause he had one of them things. (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS) Like to throw this out too now. Yes they did. I just go ahead on down.
Student Body: No.
Dr. Kinley: And yet it was a trip down here too. I mean I made it. You was with me, Mary and.., most of you was with me right down here. And look, just like Moses told Pharaoh down there what was gonna happen to him. Did we tell Sadat and them boys what’s gonna happen. We went up to Hussein in Jordan and told him the same thing, went on to Israel and told them the same thing up there in Israel. And we told one.., we told Sadat here just what we was gonna tell King Hussein, and we told King Hussein what we gonna tell Golda Meir and them up there. Is that right? Is that what we, is that we told ‘em?
Dr. Harris: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Now look folks, now you’re talking about repetition they can’t learn nothing, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now I’m looking right at this pattern, that’s why I was talking about, that when I told them what I said to ‘em. Now here it is they can’t learn. Pharaoh done tried it. They tried it in 1948. They tried it in 1967. They tried it in ’62. They just can’t make the grade, just can’t learn it. Now here you are. You come to school. And we don’t want you to be down here ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Right? Now we just read that which may be known of Yahweh, Yahweh has manifested or showed it to them, for the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and Godhead or supernal nature, so that there won’t be no excuse. I used to wonder to myself. When I was a preacher in the Church of God, I used to wonder to myself, ‘why is it that we’re just a ____ be all split up in some many denominations and all like that.’ Looked like to me that God has appointed a day (I’m talking about Acts of Apostles now) God has appointed a day when He shall judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained. It would seem to me that there oughta be something in that Bible to put us together some kinda way or another, but it.., we just wasn’t doing no good. And for 2 years of my life that’s the way I was. ____ ____. I couldn’t see it. And finally Yahweh revealed it to me. And that’s what I have been trying to tell you. And this year which we have come down so close to it and I’ve tried my best to warn you and in fact you hear me say awhile ago I am not particularly concerned about the grave. And if I had my way about it I’d be out in the cemetery by now cause I have a desire to depart and be with Yahweh, with God which is far better than this. That’s right. When you got the real genuine thing, you don’t wanna set around here fooling with all this junk and stuff. That’s what the Apostle Paul said, he said I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us. And he knew that there was a crown laid up in him which Yahweh Elohim, that righteous spirit shall give him of that day. And not only him but all of those in the Holy Spirit.
Now then, another thing he said there too. I’m preaching a funeral by one time, it was an, an emergency thing. Just real quick, I don’t have time to get me no text and ____ ____. I had to run on out there and I had to grab the Bible, find me something in there. I knew a whole lot of text but I ____ ____ ____ ____. So I had read it, ____ ____ sit there in the kitchen I Corinthians we can invite you to read Corinthians, I’m talking about when Jehovah said by man come forth with, Lazarus raised from the tomb, ____ away then the man dies and gives up the ghost ____ ____ ____ ____ but I had to grab myself up a text, ____ and this was the text, if in this life only we have hope in Yahshua the Messiah, whom the world calls Jesus Christ, then we are of all men most miserable. Now you think of yourself in your situation and in your position. If you had, you don’t have no, majority of you don’t have, I didn’t say nothing about ____ ____. I’m pretty sure that the majority of you don’t have no great big expensive bank account, (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)penthouse out there on the hill somewhere overlooking the ocean, have a Rolls Royce in the garage. You don’t have all these things, in other words this world’s good then you’re a failure. And if in this life only if you have hope in Yahshua now you are miserable wreck. This next one is coming up, Immortality Age. That’s what you’re supposed to have the hope in. That’s what we are waiting for.
Now Dr. Harris, I want you to read one more verse for me. And that’s Isaiah 28:9 and 10. And you pay attention. Now remember what I ____, I showed you there that from the creation of the world you got 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. Same thing here: pure spirit – that’s one, incorporeal body – two, physical body that’s three. You see that now? You got blood on the altar, water here, the spirit here, into the Holy Place, through the veil in the Most Holy Place. 1, 2, 3. And you use it all the way through.., from garden here? I’m saying it so you can see what I’m talking about, use it all the way right straight on down. Now folks, I’ve got some news for you. He Himself is the Sanctorium of Sanctoriums, Yahshua the Messiah. When John was out on the Isle of Patmos, let me put it this way, this is a brass vessel, that’s a brazen altar, and this is a brass one here, that’s the brazen laver, and then you enter into the door, and you got the gold in here. And then you go through this veil here and into the Most Holy and that’s covered with gold. Now His feet was as burnished brass, now He said He walked in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks, with the seven stars in His right hand. Is that right? ____ ____ ____. And He had on garments and girded about the paps and that was golden. And on down that was golden, just like these vessels out here was brass, these in here are gold, that’s what that’s all about. That means that He’s the Sanctuary, He’s the body. Now that’s what you’re gonna have to use, there’s no way out of it, He’s the archetype or original pattern of the universe. There just ain’t no way out of it. Now here’s the thing that’s happened. The devil has come along and told us all kinds of barefaced lies, like this: Lord, God, Jesus Christ. And if you just used a little horse sense, you could see that if Lord was the name of the Father, then the Word or Son it ought to be, have some relationship, and this oughta be similar, ____ ____ ____ none of these names. Now somebody would come along and call you out of your name, I mean of your parental name that you inherited from birth, that wouldn’t set too well, would it. That’s what you think of that. Read Dr. Harris.
Reader: Whom shall He teach knowledge,
Dr. Kinley: Now, now listen here. Whom shall He teach knowledge? Whom Yahweh gonna teach knowledge? Knowledge and wisdom shall be the stability of the time, now who’s He gonna teach knowledge. Alright read.
Reader: And whom shall he make to understand doctrine.
Dr. Kinley: Now listen. Yahshua the Messiah had ____ ____ ____, doesn’t even make sense. Now who’s He gonna make to understand doctrine? Read.
Reader: Them that are weaned from the milk.
Dr. Kinley: Now, you have to get off that milk. You have to put the bottle down. Put the bottle down. (STUDENT BODY AND DR. KINLEY LAUGH) ____ ____ ____ there in the 5th chapter of Hebrews Paul said there of the Jews who were supposed to have knowledge and understanding, he said when the time come that they should be capable of teaching somebody else they had need of somebody to give them some more milk. They wasn’t weaned. Alright, read on.
Reader: Them that are weaned from the milk and drawn
Dr. Kinley: Now weaned from the milk and drawn from the breast, you have to grow up here sometime. Read on.
Reader: for precept must be upon precept.
Dr. Kinley: Now this is what we’re talking about: this blood line must be on this blood line. This water line must be on this water line. And I’m talking the pattern all the way through these, the dispensation of time on through here, clear on back into the beginning, back to ____ ____ ____. Now you have to come up, come on above that verse. You have to get weaned someway or another. You have to eat some meat. You have to quit crawling around on the floor, stand up and be a man sometime or another. Now look, folks, now I tried to do this. This was night when they ate that passover down there in Egypt and by slaying that Lamb down there, now pay attention to what I’m saying, if it’s dark down there and if Yahshua the Messiah is the Lamb as John said He was, that, takes away the sins of the world, when He’s crucified out there, you got to have the same conditions right there, it’s got to turn dark over the face of the earth from the 6th to the 9th hour. It’s just got to do that. He can’t run out the garden and ____ to the light ____ this morning, he has to wait until the sun come down, that’s not in the Outer Court. It was raining here, the sun was obscured by the clouds. Down in Egypt, dark. Can’t bring a lamb or any sacrifice until it’s dark. It’s dark here, dark here, dark there. Put Him in Joseph’s new tomb. Here that, that night of the passover. It didn’t come of effect until the Day of Pentecost and He washed the disciples feet, that’s the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit. See that. Now whom shall he teach doctrine, them that can ____ ____ draw this line upon this line, blood line, there’s the water line and there’s the spirit line. And here’s your assembly line, and here’s the vail of the flesh and then you go on in here, and then you go on into the Most Holy Place, where the ____ ____ or the ____ itself. Now that’s what you have to do. Now here’s where, here’s where you have to start from. You have to start with Him and hold Him all the way through there, all the way through, all the way through. Look at them charts, and you’ll find every last one of them, that’s on there the same way. Now look, that’s Yahweh teaching you knowledge. And I’ve already done told you and told plain and you know I told you the truth. The Pope can’t do that. Orthodox Judaism can’t do that. Now then this is what they do. Now so far as these charts. John comes and he’s baptizing in the River Jordan, they had to confess their sins. Now you pay attention to what I’m saying. They had.., now this is before, three and a half (3 1/2) years before He died. That baptism they went to, I mean be ____ ____, I don’t mean sprinkle either, I’m talking about burying Him by baptism. The 6th chapter Romans Dr. Harris. I wanna let you know that this, this is the way in the Bible. 6th chapter of Romans.
Reader: What shall we say then,
Dr. Kinley: What shall we say then. He’s talking about the Jews, you have to go back up in the 5th chapter but we ain’t got time.
Reader: Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound,
Dr. Kinley: Shall we continue in sin, He’s talking about the Jews, that grace may abound.
Reader: by no means.
Dr. Kinley: by no means.
Reader: how shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein.
Dr. Kinley: how shall we that are dead, can’t live any longer therein.
Reader: Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into the Messiah
Dr. Kinley: That was baptized in Yahshua the Messiah
Reader: were baptized into His death.
Dr. Kinley: Now John had to baptize them in this water before He died, in order to baptize them in His death. And I would like for you gentiles to get this straight. There wasn’t any gentiles in it. And I wanna let you know this too. There wasn’t any Christians baptized. No gentiles, not the first. Didn’t baptize nobody but the Jews. How are you gonna find out about that? None of the ____ there wasn’t nobody but Jews come up out of Egypt. There wasn’t nobody but Jews gathered up around the mountain when He made the covenant with ‘em so the Book says. Now look how easy it’s been for the devil to come along and fool you: ‘If Jesus was baptized, was good enough for him, good enough for me.’ You don’t hardly ____ by the Book. There isn’t anybody in this room that hasn’t been baptized. Adam was baptized in mother earth in its formation, there’s a child or fetus in the womb that’s in a bag of water with the ____ over. That child is immersed in water there in its’ mothers womb, just like Adam was, when he come from mother earth back here. Everybody. ‘Me?’ Yes, you. Said, ‘well I had a cesarean operation.’ Now look, now follow me now, follow me. Now look here, you see this, here’s the body, and here it’s coming on down, up here too, it’s all been true, it comes on down to you. Now listen folks, now before that child is born, that water has to break, then there’s gonna be a show of blood, moves on out of the way. Now there’s a doctor setting up here. Dr. Harris, I’m talking about. I asked him to give a lecture on childbirth when he first come in the school and he couldn’t understand why at that time, I asked him to do a thing like that. Sure people religious ____, but now as he got through it, I got back up and I’ll tell you. Well then he understood it. He said ____ ____. Everybody. Now Yahweh has fixed it this way so we don’t have no excuse. And you have to put that line upon that line in there, line upon line, precept upon precept and you have to do it all the way on the Godhead clear on back into the Garden of Eden. That’s the way it has to be. And you can’t find Roman Catholics and Protestants and Jews to do that. I couldn’t do it so don’t go give me no praise for it, if Yahweh hadn’t revealed it to me I’d be just like any other man. I don’t have a thing to boast about. Freddy if you’d read what I’m taught and make some examinations of it, find out for yourself,
Freddy Allen Jr.: Right.
Dr. Kinley: You did better than I did because I didn’t have nobody to show me nothing but Yahweh, if Yahweh hadn’t showed me I wouldn’t have known. I couldn’t manifest these like this. And listen there ain’t a thing you can do about it. Now they was baptized into His death, three and a half (3 1/2) years before He died. How here’s what I wanna get over to you: if John baptized them before He died, and didn’t baptize nobody but Jews (now listen to what I’m gonna say) now wouldn’t it be stupid in Yahshua the Messiah to die out here on the cross if water baptism washed away their sins and this river Jordan come on down from the Sea of Galilee or the Sea of Nazareth, and entered into the Salt Sea or the Dead Sea, if that be true and water washed away sin, baptism should have been in the Dead Sea. Is that right? Water down wash away sin, then here’s Yahshua dying on the cross for their sins and the water wash… Now that’s stupid for Him dying out there like that. You have to admit that. Say listen, that’s the only sacrifice that Yahweh ever had to remove anybody’s sin. The blood of bulls and goats, and heifers and turtle doves, nothing like that never did, and water never washed away nobody’s sin. If you had a little soap, a little detergent, it don’t, it don’t touch the conscience, that’s what I’m talking about. You have to have something to touch the conscience there. So now, the Book says, ‘truly, if we walk in the light, if we walk in the light and He is in the light we have fellowship one with the other and the water
Student Body: NO.
Dr. Kinley: washed away.
Student Body: NO.
Dr. Kinley: We need straightening
Reader: I John 1:7, but if we walk in the light, as He is in the light we have fellowship one with another and the blood of Yahshua the Messiah His Son cleanses us from all sin.
Dr. Kinley: Now see if this other passage you’re gonna read something like those in Revelations 1:3. It’s gonna read something like this.
Reader: Revelation 1:6. And from Yahshua the Messiah who is the faithful witness and the first begotten of the dead and the ruler of the kings of the earth, unto him that loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood.
Dr. Kinley: Now you can see that, that water didn’t wash away nothing. Now look, boys, the pattern dictates this, don’t you see the blood down here in Egypt, don’t you see the blood out here going to dip in the blood, sacrifice and then into the water. Don’t you see that? Then.., can’t you see. There’s got to be a death here, got to be some blood and without the shedding of blood (as Hebrews said) without the shedding of blood there’s no remission of sin. He had to die. If water had washed it away as they’re trying to tell us, as the preacher sitting here in this pulpit will say ____ of most of ‘em: it ain’t ____, they come professing Christ too, tell you water baptism wash away your filthy sin. Well then if that be the case what about this, came sin when a baby in sin did his mother conceive him and they were born in sin and shaped in iniquity. ‘Don’t you go putting that stuff on us over here now.’ No don’t anybody like that. Paul says, then, your children, now they are clean. That’s the 2nd chapter of…
Reader: I Corinthians.
Dr. Kinley: I Corinthians. Now I’ve said enough. Is there any questions? Now I’ve brought a bunch of books down here. I’d like for you to take this book right here, Jehovah Witness and get that name Jehovah there. Now while you find that, ____ and I wanna show you what they say and its a disgrace too. Now that’s their book. Get over there and read. See what I’m telling. That’s right. That’s the reason them books.
Reader: Copyright 1969, 1971 by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.
Dr. Kinley: Now read.
Reader: Jehovah the personal name of God. Isaiah 42:8, Isaiah 54:5, though scripturally designated by such descriptive titles as god, lord, creator, father, the Almighty, the Most High and others, his personality and attributes, who and what he is are fully summoned up and expressed only in this personal name. The correct, pronunciation of the divine name. Jehovah is the best known english pronunciation of the divine name. Although Yahweh is favored by most Hebrew scholars.
Dr. Kinley: Now that’s a disgrace. You know that. That’s a disgrace. Now Yahshua the Messiah said Moses wrote of Him. Moses wrote Yahweh. Now he said Jehovah is the english translation. No, it is not. Yahweh is the translation, that’s english translation. That’s the english translation. Now its a disgrace to say anything like that. Read a little further there, Doc.
Reader: The oldest hebrew manuscripts presents the name in the form of 4 consonants commonly called the tetragrammaton, from Greek tetra meaning 4 and gramma letter. These 4 letters written from right to left are (it gives the hebrew) and may be transliterated into the english as Y H W H.
Dr. Kinley: Now you see that, you deny it, then turn around and said they translated it in english. Now wouldn’t that bust up. Now that’s down right unapologetic stupidity. There’s no excuse for nothing like that. And as stupid as I am I know better than that. Alright read on Doc.
Reader: The hebrew consonants of the name are therefore known. The question is
Dr. Kinley: Now this is a question with them.
Reader: as to which vowels are to be combined with those consonants. Vowel points did not come into use in hebrew until the second half of the 1st millennium, Christian Era.
Dr. Kinley: See that now. That ____ which is the first vowel to use. A E I O U. Is that right? That’s the vowels. Now keep close cause we’re gonna need vowels in this Y H W H to use. And don’t know which one to use. Now that’s just down right stupid. Now here’s the reason, now he’s gonna say Jehovah. JEHOVAH. Right? Now you got the E here and you got the A over here. Now you got the woman before the man. Now if you put the A where it belongs as in Adam, and the E being Eve. Put the A for Adam put it right here, because the man was formed first, then take the Eve and put it in right here, the E here, and that’s the vowels. Now he don’t know which way to use it. And we do, because we know the man was created first, then the woman was created in the man. See how smart we are. Now lets take some, some, some more. Now you got Adam and Eve. Now the woman was in the man. E W E. What’s that spell?
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Student Body: Ewe.
Dr. Kinley: What is a ewe?
Student Body: A female lamb.
Dr. Kinley: That’s a female lamb, F E M A L E L A M B. That’s a female lamb.
Student Body: Right.
Dr. Kinley: Now that female lamb was in this man here.
Student Body: Right
Dr. Kinley: Formed there. And Yahweh called their name A D A M. And the woman was taken out of the man. You see how smart we are? We don’t get caught up on no mess like that. Now that’s, now that’s perfectly clear. Then you got the nerve, I’ll tell you the truth that was just the other day when the man speaking, Dr. Durham from the Bible Institute. I told him, he said now Dr. Kinley, I tried to tell you something about the truth. He said, ‘no I’m not going to feel good tonight.’ He said, ‘Jehovah God that’s what we lecture. We are here to tell you the truth.’ I said well if you say you are here to tell us the truth, demonstrate it. He said, ‘I see you got quite an extensive library there too. And I said yes we got.., they seen some of their books in there too. They knew, I had ‘em, so I said, ____ ____, just say that. You just read it. Now at, at the reading that the Hebrews use. Read it again Doc.
Reader: Jehovah is the best known english. pronunciation of the divine name.
Dr. Kinley: See that.
Reader: Although Yahweh
Dr. Kinley: I wouldn’t write nothing like that. I would be ashamed to go in front of intelligent people and stand and tell them a bare face lie like that, that they could look up in any book. I got a whole gang of books there, recently written too. How, how would you look going up in somebody’s and telling Jehovah’s the english pronunciation when the.., that’s the english pronunciation up there Yahweh. Anybody can find out about that. I wouldn’t disgrace myself running around telling people a lie like that. And the looking like he’s telling you something about the truth. That’s disgusting. And once he found out. He says I have searched out.
People are not talking like that. Yeah you better.
Well now time is short. We have just about a minute or two before it’s time to go home. Does anybody got any questions? Come on now you oughta have some. Well this sure is wonderful that I can.., so that I… explain everything so satisfactorily that everybody don’t have no question to ask. I know when Yahweh showed me the vision all I had was a great big ____, saw the whole thing too. I saw. And then He had to knock me out again and then show it to me again. Now.., and then I understood, but I want to tell you something folks. If ever you get it, get in your heart and your mind the way that I pictured and illustrated around here this here. If you do you couldn’t pay me if you wanted to. Yes indeed. You know I tell you I think…
You ring the bell on me.
I’ll tell you something about 36. After I had that vision in ’31. In 36 I went to Cincinnati. I lived in Springfield and I went to Cincinnati. And this is what I saw definitely. ____ ____ ____ ____. And I just wanted to keep my mouth shut. And I was doing alright until Sister Harris commence, but I would go back to Springfield. And when I went back to Springfield, Dr. Gross, Dr. Gross and Dr. Barbie and all the rest of them they went home and sit down. What’s the matter with you all? She said, ‘well, there ain’t no where for us to go, there ain’t but a handful of us.’ Said, ‘there just ain’t nowhere to go, you just can’t go back into that stuff out there no more.’ The other day when he tried to tell them what the school was he came out of that he couldn’t go back in that school ____ ____, ‘Oh yes you ain’t gonna catch me repeating that stuff. You folks can’t fool me.’ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ we said yes we did. You better come up here. He’ll come.., I’ll come up here. He knows better than to come up here ____ ____. All he has to do is an apology to be friends. Now I’m telling you something, all you gotta do to be friends. Say, ‘you know I know Kinley.’ He ain’t coming up here. So he says I’m going to prove it to you. You gonna come, he has time to make ____ 3 or 4 time you know and set up there 3 or 4 times. Same lies. He invites me up. All of East Springfield come with me. ____ ____ ____ ____. And for about a minute, it seemed difficult. There was nothing else I could do with it. And we were supposed to have 15 minutes a piece. He and his wife and all, they were against me. So when I got down and told them just like I showed you these particulars this same way. Showed on the veil on figure somebody else want to have something to say. Now they met last night so I just ____ ____. A debate. They wouldn’t it. Let me tell you something folks. These preachers out here, they know the true names. And they’ll tell you to your face that they do. And if you’re wise, just like I just read to you had read to you out of this book. They tell on their ownselves. They said that the hebrew pronunciation of it was Yahweh. Is that what they said ____. Now that’s Jehovah’s Witnesses own book. Now look, look here, let me show you this. Yahshua said Moses wrote of me. Now later on right out here in Greek. Now that set, that sets the ____ to preaching. Now if you take this Y H W H and put the diacritical marks in it, then you have the correct pronunciation of the… Is that right, David?
David Rosen: That’s right.
Dr. Kinley: Do you see that now? Folks, the best thing to do is.., now the reason why I’m saying this to you time is so short. This age here from the creation the Garden of Eden down here just called an age was 1656 years. And Yahweh closed that age. And from there down to the crucifixion and the out pouring of the Holy Spirit that’s another age. 23… Now this one was a short, 1656. An age is approximately 2000 years long, but 1656 that’s less than 2000. that’s not quite 2000. Now this one is over. This is a long one. 2377. Then as Yahshua said in the 24th chapter of Matthew then this age here that we’re in now. This has got to be a short one, because if it was not shortened.., is that what it says there the 24th chapter of Matthew read it somebody. Now if it was not short than there wouldn’t be no flesh saved. Now you could look all over the world and see the shape we’re in now. And we can get these people, we can not get these people to use them right names. Even the Jews themselves that know that the names are that way. They won’t use them. You know what they call Yahweh, they know Yahweh’s the correct name, call him Adonai. You know what they call Yahshua. Yeshua. And know that it’s Yahshua. Now that to prove that to you, A. B. Traina wrote these books. Those of you that have, I need to tell you this and every once in a while we will tell you to do this, remind these people to read the preface in your Holy Name Bible. And it might do ‘em a whole lot of good on where these names in all are coming from what is the correct name. Now as you found over here and Yahshua the Messiah, John, you got your finger on it, just go ahead and read.
Reader: Matthew, 24th chapter?
Dr. Kinley: About was He said there, it’s in John. Where He said that Moses wrote of Him.
Reader: 47, John 5:43.
Dr. Kinley: Yes, John 5:43. Now listen folks. Now pay attention to me this trip. Now Yahshua the Messiah, is the Savior that was back there with Moses, said this. Said Moses wrote of me. Now then in Luke He begin with Moses. Why did He begin with Moses? Why didn’t He begin with somebody else? Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob or Enoch or somebody else back there. Well, why didn’t He? Because they didn’t write anything of Him. So why didn’t they write anything about Him? Well, here’s the reason why they didn’t write anything about him. You have to come on back here. He had to come back here. He never showed it to nobody else. No, He didn’t. If He had showed it to some of the rest of them, then some of the rest of them could have written. Now that’s why He begin with Moses. And then to the rest of the prophecy. Is that right? And listen folks, it was, you think about this. Now from the Garden of Eden down 1656 years here, nobody back there actually knew His name. And come on down about 857 after the flood and then He reveals His name to Moses. Now then there’s still a whole age gone, and here’s 857 years after the flood when He reveals His name to Moses. They knew Him as El Shaddai back here, which means Almighty Provider. What He did He provided a heaven and earth, provided everything. All the necessary provisions was made. To carry out His purpose and His plan. And now if that be the case, now then Moses was the one that He revealed the name to. So it was Moses that wrote of Him. Now they’re talking about the Hebrews. Well Moses was the only man who could write. Then why you run out to the Greek ____ for? You get what I’m talking about. The whole thing was revealed to the Jews. Then why run out to the Greeks. You see people, the devil is gonna do anything he can do to get you to believe some kinda way or another. You see that now. He’s gonna do that. Then here’s another one. Here’s, here’s a tough one. You know I try to bring it in hard to you. Look, back over here in Genesis. You got Yahweh wrote all back over there in Genesis. Is that right? Moses name is not in the Genesis. You couldn’t even prove that you didn’t know as we knew. You couldn’t even prove that Moses wrote the Genesis. Now how you gonna prove that he wrote it. Well there’s a caption up there on the top of the page says the first book of Moses commonly called the Genesis. That don’t prove nothing. Now here’s how you prove it, that Moses wrote it. Since you have Yahweh all back here in the Genesis. Nobody else but Moses knew anything about what His name was. Now that’s a dead give away right there. How about that. See how smart we are down here. You say, ‘well if Moses was the only one that knew anything on how the name get back over here in Genesis. Evidently Adam must have known something about it. So then what are you going to do, argue with Yahweh. He said in Exodus they didn’t know His name. Now you want to dispute with Him? You see the point. Every time you turn we got your water on. And it’s called ____. We do know what we are talking about. And we don’t have no apologies to make for telling you the truth. And you must abide by it too. I’ll put it this way. Yahshua the Messiah, He said, now listen to what I’m saying, He said, when He come through the loins, He said He come to fulfill. Protestantism and Roman Catholicism and Judaism and all the things they say He come to institute. Institute what? Christian water baptism. Christian foot washing or hard shell Baptist, primitive Baptist. And instituted the Lord’s Supper. No such a thing. Now you disputing Him, He said He come to fulfill when He come through the loins of the woman. They say, He come to institute. Now you can’t be saved on nothing like that. Running around arguing what’s the faith, telling the ____ ____ what he’s talking about. You don’t know why He did these things. (BELL RINGS) Thank you. He washed disciples feet. And they said foot washings, you see foot washings was back there under the law. Just as stupid as they can be. Moses took Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu to the laver and washed them. Is that what is in the Book? And put the garments on them and anointed them with oil. Before they could officiate in that sanctuary. Moses was in there ____ walk in ____ service. Don’t you see he’s got to put some water in the basin after the cup of the blood. I mean after take water and wash their feet back here. He is the Word. So that is the washing of regeneration by the Word. He told them, if I don’t wash you, you can’t be clean. Is that right? There’s no part of it. Now I hope you got something out of this. Now why don’t you just do this. All these questions that you have all your life, why don’t you bring ‘em on up here. Tie somebody up and mess somebody all up. And if you don’t think you can do it bring your pastor. Bring ‘em packing down. You don’t have to worry about me giving him an opportunity, we’ll give him an opportunity, won’t we folks.
Student Body: Yes, we will.
Dr. Kinley: Yes indeed. And more than likely he won’t be back, cause we definitely will give him an opportunity, and we’d.., I’d set him straight about it. He just can’t do that. Put it line upon line, precept upon precept. Hold that blood line, water line and go by that pattern. And through all ‘em. Godhead on down or from the supernal nature on down through the dispensations and ages and on back to it that way. There ain’t a man in the world that can do it except Yahweh be within him. Now I’m just giving it to you straight. And this, and this I want you to know too. He didn’t have a whole lotta people to go out and preach the gospel. He only had 12 men to evangelize the world. We got more than that right here in one, almost on this street. But they just don’t know what they’re talking about. Downtown today and a man down there, ‘yah, yah, yah, yah, yah, yah, yah, yah, hey brother.’ Every time we went down there ____, he’s over down there, proselyting ____ ____ ____ somewhere or down ____. And that’s the way you all, try to get somebody and keep the thing going the best you can. The paster (pastor?), he has to work so he can make his car payments and pay for his car and all the time… That’s not what it’s all about. And then he’s got to try to build it up some kinda way. Now you may not like what I have said here, but I have told you the truth. And then somebody out there and say that he thinks he’s so smart. No I don’t, I know it.
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