45) * SUNDAY, DECEMBER 21, 1975: LAST LECTURE *
IMPORTANCE COMING TO SCHOOL AND BEING OBEDIENT
(also called: WHY BE CONSTANT AND REGULAR IN YOUR ATTENDANCE IN SCHOOL)
by Dr. Henry C. Kinley
1040 South Grand Avenue
Los Angeles, California
audio tape received from Fred Allen Jr.
2 90 minutes audio cassettes
originally transcribed by Mary Gross and Nola Jackson
first proofreading: Bill Kennedy
second proofreading: Michael Rothstein
third proofreading: Gerry Rothstein
fourth proofreading: International Public Relations
approved by the International Public Relations Committee: 1997
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(THE FOLLOWING TWO SENTENCES WERE MISSING FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR TAPE, BUT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT. THEY WERE PROBABLY LOST DURING TAPE DUPLICATION) Thank you ever so much. As usual I’m glad to be here before you.
Dr. Kinley: I would not have been here tonight had it not been important, I didn’t sleep last night to amount to anything at all. And those of you that sat close and round about me this morning, you seen that I went to sleep in school setting right in that chair.
Now, I wanna tell you the reason why I didn’t sleep. The reason why I didn’t sleep was because there’s a message that’s supposed to be conveyed unto you, that you possibly might overlook or misunderstand or take it like you do some other things, which it is vitally important. I’m aware of the fact that these things are done, not purposely, but , because it’s just simply that way. I’m gonna tell you in the offset in a way that you can understand about both of the things that I wanna say to you. And I want you to bear in mind, keep it in mind. Then I want you to be obedient to the things that I’m going to say to you. Don’t just take it lightly, and go ahead on because it might not be so well with you.
One of the things I wanna say to you is this: be constant and regular in your attendance in school. Try to learn all that you can possibly learn. Try to understand all that you can possibly understand, because you need it. You need it to keep you steadfast, strong and not be removed from the faith. The scriptures say, now I want you to read the third chapter, I believe of Timothy. Either the first 1st Timothy or second, second, what’s gonna happen in the last days.
Now that’s one of the, the third chapter, now that’s one of the things I want you to bear in mind. It don’t make no difference how you feel. If it’s possible for you to come, come here, 1040. 1 want you to bear that in mind and I want you to obey it. If it wasn’t important, I wouldn’t be standing up here before you now.
I’d like to say this to you too. It was questionable whether or not that I was gonna get to come to school tonight because every night they take my temperature. My temperature was up tonight and one, then Mary gave me some Tylenol. Then I took another pill that Dr. Harris prescribed for me. And ‘if it’s possible,’ I said, ‘I’m gonna go.’ So here I am. I’m very weak. I don’t expect to stand here before you long. And I wouldn’t even be up here at all if it wasn’t important, that I want you to take heed.
Now I’ve already told you about one thing. That’s come to school, be punctual. Do all that you can toward getting somebody else to come. Somebody that don’t know, your family, those members of your family that don’t know, try to get them to come. Be patient with them. Be very careful with them and try to persuade them to come. Now the reason for that is because now, I don’t know whether you paid attention to it or not, you can check, you can make your own statement. You don’t have to answer to me about it at all. I told you that the Roman Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Church of God, all of ‘em were looking for Christ to jump down out of the sky, 1975. I told you that that would not happen. Now somebody would say, ‘Well now he don’t know what he’s talking about. He don’t understand what he’s talking about. He’s talking about something he believes, something he thinks.’ Well, that part of it hasn’t happened you know that. You don’t have to question that. Believe it or not, you don’t have to be, you don’t have to be bothered with that. You know now sitting on your seat that it hasn’t happened as of yet and this year is just about gone.
Now this time of year, we have usually what you call a Christmas program. And that’s where the scripture was read as it was tonight. To call your attention to the birth and the life of Yahshua the Messiah. For now we’re too far gone for that tonight because they’ve been reading that for a long, long time and they’ve got that all messed up too. They don’t know how to determine the birth of Yahshua the Messiah. And then another thing I wanna remind you about, I wanna tell you about.
I told you in 1961 that after we put this book out, they would be coming around to the place where they would begin to go back to the original Hebrew name of the Father. That’s English up there on the board. But they would go back to it. Now I’ve got a lotta books around my house being recently copyrighted with the name Yahweh in it. New Books. And our work has been circulated all over the world. And this has come to the attention of many of the famous television preachers, the name of our Heavenly Father. Now I wanna tell you what’s happened to them. Now because they have went on, I’m talking about Billy Graham, Rex Humbard, Kathryn Kuhlman, man down here in India, Oral Roberts, and many of ‘em. Now they are very, very careful, very careful not to use none of them names. Even though they have been printed in the book and so forth and so on, even Jehovah’s Witnesses. I told you that they would be coming up with this name. They never come up with it before, until they received our work. And so now then they know Yahweh is correct and still they’re too stubborn and they say it’s Jehovah. And yet and still right in the same book they say they know there’s no ‘J’ in the Hebrew language - there isn’t until yet, but it’s Jehovah. It’s the best English pronunciation of the name of our heavenly Father. Naw. That’s the best English. That’s English up there on the board not Jehovah. That’s English up there, that’s not Hebrew. You understand this one? Now what I’m trying to tell you is this: how man in these last days, even though they know and all of this information has gone out in all the world, they are reluctant to say anything about it, because they’ve built up a great following, and they’re reputable ministers. And they think that they’re gonna continue on that way and Yahweh will have to put up with it. Now what that really means, that means that they’re opposed to you. Now the scriptures or the Bible says that they would be like that. Not only that. Not only that. I want you to realize this too. The Apostle Paul said, even among your ownselves, some of ‘em would raise up and speak perverse things to draw away disciples after themselves. Did you know that that was in the Book? If you didn’t, I’ll have it read, cause everybody you have to really open up your eyes if you want to be saved. And you don’t have no long time to be saved.
Now I told you about one thing in particular. Now I wanna tell you about another. One of the two things that I wanted to talk to you about. The second thing that I wanna talk with you about is this: that you have come down to the place in history and in time where you must be in attendance. It’s urgent. It’s important for you to be in attendance, regular attendance and listen to the gospel as it is being taught. And then when you do that with a sincere heart then Yahweh will give you some wisdom and knowledge and understanding. But until such time there won’t be anything new. Now that’s the second thing I wanted to tell you about. That you’re right down to the end now where everything you can read about in the Bible is taking place.
Now it’s necessary now for me to repeat. I don’t like repetition too well, only in a sense. Now here’s the repetition that I’m gonna repeat it. Do you recall that the Roman Catholics that I told you since I’ve been standing on this floor, I want you to be mindful of it. There’s 550,000,000 of ‘em in 1961. Now they’re looking for the coming of Christ in 1975, with them this year, the Year of Jubilee. Every 25 years. Now that’s wrong. It should be 50. But now they were looking for Christ to come in 1975. Jehovah’s Witnesses looking for Christ to come in 1975. The Church of God looking for Christ to come in 1975.
Now to repeat something else that I’ve already stated to you. I want you to take it home, think it over. I told you that Billy Graham and the rest of ‘em don’t use these names in their services, they’re all out there every which way. Now I’ll call this the second thing I wanna tell you about. I’ve touched on it, some of it. The second thing I wanna tell you is this…and then I’ll go on. I haven’t forgot that. And that is this. Now don’t forget now, I told you the other fellow they believed He was coming in 1975. Don’t forget that. And I told you that NO that won’t happen like that in 1975.
Now the second thing I wanted to speak to you about is about the peace mission that Dr. Traynham told you about this morning. Now I’m fully conscious and aware, some will say this, ‘Well they have already been over there twice what do they want to go back again for? I don’t see no sense in it.’ Now I know people will say that and I don’t mean the world out yonder somewhere, that’s not what I mean. I’m talking about in the school. Now here’s why I brought that up and that is why I couldn’t sleep last night. Slept off and on all night long and sat here as I told you in school this morning and went to sleep.
Now, this 24th chapter of Matthew is just as important as anything else in the Bible. Now if you’re not, if you’re not gonna believe that, then you might as well throw away the whole business.
Now it has been said repeatedly… I’ll let you be the judge. Listen carefully to what I’m saying. Listen carefully. I have told you repeatedly for 44 years that I was the man that Yahweh sent in the world in these last days to teach you the truth. I’m the man. The only man. Now I know somebody’ll say, ‘now I don’t believe that.’ And, ‘that sounds like a lie.’ Well I got some news for you. Now here’s the news I have for you. I wouldn’t believe it my own self if Yahweh hadn’t shown it to me. Yeah. I wouldn’t believe it. But now this peace mission is necessary. Now they have told you, we have told you many times about how the high priest went in and out this sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. And he went in there three times in the Most Holy Place on that day. This is the third peace mission. Now from 1961 down until the present time, these true names have been circulated. They’ve gone over all the world.
You can go in book stores now and just almost pick up almost any book and you’ll find these names in them. Back there in ’61 it wasn’t like that. All of the preaching that you hear on the TV and the radio, I mean the television, none of them won’t say anything about these names. I wanna tell you something else about that name too.
Over in Jerusalem or over in the Holy Land, they know that it’s Yahweh. You won’t find not one rabbi on earth, you can go right here in Los Angeles, right there on Wilshire Boulevard and ask them about these names and they’ll all tell you that that’s right. They have never been out of the Masoretic text. The King James put them in there, Lord, God and Jesus Christ. They have never been out of the Masoretic Text of the Bible, and in some King James versions of the Bible you’ll find those names in the footnotes, in your King James version of the Bible.
Now, since we have now come to school, try to learn all you can. Give until it hurts towards the peace mission. Now if you believe.., now listen to what I’m saying, if you believe any parts of the Bible, and you think it’s true, you will do what you can to help this peace mission, this gospel to be spread in all the world. Now since you, pay attention now, since you are the only ones that know anything at all in reality about the truth then it is imposed or incumbent upon you to see to it. You’re the very folks that he’s talking about in the 24th chapter of Matthew. You’re the folks that it was talking about to carry this message in all the world.
Now listen. You know as well as I do you have religious confusion all over the world. You know you have ecclesiastical confusion or religious confusion, you know you have it all over the world. You know you have political confusion all over the world. They don’t know what to do about political associates. You have economic situations and conditions all over the world. They don’t know what to do about any of it. Ford don’t know. Congress don’t know, and the U.N. don’t know. They just don’t know.
Now what is happening is this: you’ve gotten down to the place where you have got to be diligent in your search, in order to learn anything. The Apostle Paul says this, prove all things, hold fast to that which is good. Now for me to stand up here and say something to you and then can’t prove it, that’s bad.
Now you don’t have no long time to get straightened out. Some of us been in this school for a long time, haven’t got straightened out yet. So don’t you feel too bad about it. Apostle Paul says again in Hebrews that you should pay the most earnest heed to the things that you hear. Freddie go ahead and read it.
Fred Allen, Jr.: 2nd Chapter of Hebrews
Dr. Kinley: I, I haven’t forgotten. You ought to pay the most earnest heed to the, now he’s talking to the Jews, he wasn’t talking to the Gentiles, to the things that you hear. Why so? Lest at anytime you let ‘em slip. Now some of the things that have been told you about this work you let them slip. Therefore, it’s necessary for you to come back to school, catch it up, then when that happens, this is the next thing that happens, a root of bitterness springing up among you whereby many be devoured. Read that would you please.
Fred Allen, Jr.: Therefore we ought to give the most earnest heed to the things that we have heard, lest at anytime we should let them slip. For if the word spoken by angels was steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward….
Dr. Kinley: Now you’re not gonna get away with nothing. Now you get that learned. You needn’t think, to bring you back now so you can see what I’m talking about, these preachers because they know that the true name and they haven’t been using them. And now they’ve found out about them. And now they’re very careful about not using them. Now that don’t mean that they’ve gotten away with something. Just don’t mean that, Alright.
Fred Allen, Jr.: How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by Yahweh…
Dr. Kinley: Did you finish was you were reading?
Fred Allen, Jr.: Yes.
Dr. Kinley: We ought to pay strict attention to the things that you hear, lest at any time we let ‘em slip, and then comes a root of bitterness. That’s in there too. Up above there. Now, a root of bitterness springing up. Now somebody will come along after coming to this school, I’m gonna call your attention to it, after hearing these charts explained, primarily raised in this school, been around here a long, long time, come up out of the clear blue sky and say things against that which you have been taught. Now if you hadn’t learned your lesson, you’d be carried away with it. Well I’m gonna tell you this. You’re not gonna get away with it. You’re not gonna get away with it.
Now that brings me to say one other thing before we have Dr. Harris read, and that’s this. Now it was said that you’d have to get away from blood, water and spirit. Come up off it: blood, water and spirit. Now I just wanna show you how little the person understood about that, that made the remark that you’re gonna have to get up off of it; in other words, they meant that you’re gonna have to go on further than that, than blood, water and spirit. First let’s see what’s spirit. The third chapter of II Corinthians, I believe, the 17th verse.
Dr. Harris: Now Yahweh is spirit…
Dr. Kinley: Now if you gonna get up off of that? Do you see that now? They say that’s what you’re gonna do. For Yahweh is spirit. Alright, what else?
Dr. Harris: And where the spirit of Yahweh is…
Dr. Kinley: And where the spirit of Yahweh is…
Dr. Harris: there is liberty
Dr. Kinley: There is freedom. There is liberty. You’re gonna have to get up off blood, water, spirit. Now you see, you see what you’re getting off of? Can you see how stupid the statement was? Now I’ve read it, I read it out of the Book. Right? Yahweh, not a spirit, but is spirit. That means that He’s the source, He’s substance, He’s the essence, He’s the limits, He’s the bounds of everything, conceivable and inconceivable: every known and unknown object and thing in the universe.
Now people will say things like that for self gratification or try to teach you deep, carry you on down into the depths of things. That’s what they call themselves doing. Not realizing that what you’re doing, you’re, making a mess out of it. Now the thing to do in this school is this, to make things as simple as possible.
Now I used to.., Dr. Gross can tell you, if you didn’t have an education, although I never went to, no further in school than the sixth grade of elementary school, if you were not educated and I mean really educated too, you wouldn’t know anything at all about what I’m talking about. Everything I said was scientific, highly academic. And they used to say to me, Dr. Gross and Dr. Harris and others, when this school was in its inception, they would say this, say, ‘You just open the door a little bit so we can get our foot in.’ Now what they meant was that I’d use words that they didn’t understand. They had dictionaries, unabridged dictionaries. They’d go to the dictionary. So they’d ask me to use.., they didn’t want their school, the Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research, to be second to none. Now they really wanted a real education. So when I used those words and all, they said, ‘Well Doc, I tell you what I want you..,’ Brother Fred Allen was one of them, say, ‘well I want you to write something. We don’t have no writing. We have nothing but the Bible.’ I said, ‘Ok, I’ll write.’ So I wrote. Listen now these things that I’m telling you about are important. You may not think so but they are, about 26 pages. And I explained these charts. And I brought it back to school, stood up before the class and read it. They began to look around at one another. Brother Bass was a very outspoken man. He said, ‘Doc we don’t understand what you’re talking about.’ Dr. Allen, you remember asking me.., am I, am I telling the truth about it Dr. Allen?
Fred Allen, Sr.: That’s right.
Dr. Kinley: They asked me to take this manuscript back and break it down. I did. I had about 50 pages then. And I brought it back and I read it in school. They said, ‘No, I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you’re talking about.’ And they asked me to take it back and break it down some more. And I told ‘em, ‘No.’ I worked for a living and the Insurance Company was going to put me on the road. I wouldn’t have time to do it. So then Dr. Gross took it over, or somebody in the school, to Wittenberg University. That’s a Lutheran University. The dean over there, he took a shot at the first page and he didn’t get out of the first paragraph before he closed it up. And he told Dr. Gross that he was real sorry about it but he just didn’t have the time to do it, to break it down. Somewhere in the ____, Dr. Gross told him this, that I was a sixth grade scholar. And then he told Dr. Gross, he asked him if I was living, ‘is he around?’ Said, ‘he’s in Ohio. He’s due here on the 18th.’ He says, ‘well the reason why I asked you is I want to come down and meet that man. I wanna meet that 6th grade elementary school scholar that’s got all these highly academic words and scientific words. I want to see that fellow.’ Well when he came down, and Dr. Gross told me, he said, ‘Well he wanted to come down here. He wanted to see you on account of the manuscript.’ Then that took me to Ohio. So then that afternoon, now you talk about speaking. Give him the same words that were in the manuscript. He said, ‘Yes, that’s, that’s him.’ What the man probably thought, I didn’t say he did think this, what he probably thought was a group of us had gotten together and wrote it for the school. He said, ‘Yes that’s him.’ Said, ‘he sure is a highly educated man, got a real good education.’ Well that same afternoon, I spoke, I told them that there was going to be a war in Korea, and the United States would be involved. And some of the members of the press was there. One of ‘em was some relation to, indirectly, relation to Dr. Gross was there, ____ ____ I believe his name was. Well he didn’t have anything to say about it. But now this is what they said. Said, ‘Yes, that man is educated and he’s smart but we don’t think he knows what he’s talking about when he says there is gonna be a war in Korea within the next 60 days.’ And the reason why I said sixty days was, I went to Springfield one month. The next month I was in Cincinnati, and so I said sixty days and I would be back here within sixty days and when I get back here they would be fighting. The press said that that couldn’t be so. The United States is not in a financial position to extend the war or go into a new war. They’re not in a position. So when those 60 days were up I come back to Springfield. The press was there. Now if my memory serves me right, my brother Bob tried to tell you about that while ago. So they took me down to the “Springfield Daily News Press.” They set me down and they just gathered around me, ring around me and my brother, and they asked me a lot of questions. They asked me, how did, how did I know that there was going to be a war in Korea. How was I able to determine that with the scriptures? I said, ‘well, it’s a long drawn out story but I’ve got a question I wanna ask you, how did you know that there wasn’t going to be one?’ (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Well, the reason why they wanted that, is because they wanted to put a write-up in the papers. So the write-up in the papers was just about three or four lines: “Biblical Orator Claims to Possess Knowledge of How to Forecast Wars.” That’s all they said. ____ ____ my name.
Now the reason why I brought all of this up is because you have been with me some.., for many, many years. And being with me for many, many years you’ve seen a lotta things happen just like that that I have told you about through the years. Now listen closely at what I’m telling you. As Dr. Traynham said, well said this morning that he saw. Now they’re asleep. They’re pretty wise, they are. You just continue to come and study and then accept what you read. Don’t try to fix it. Don’t try to fix it. Just leave it alone. Now there is mistranslations and misinterpolations in your Bible, we fix them. Now are you following me closely in what I’m saying to you? Now that was a war that was in Korea. I’ll ask you the question: Was there a war in Korea?
Student Body: Yes.
Dr. Kinley: ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ You didn’t know me at that time. Now in the Second World War, before that time on a Thursday night I told them. We didn’t have but one chart. That’s this one right here. This is the only one we had. The rest of ‘em we didn’t have in Springfield, Ohio. I told ‘em about the Second World War and I told ‘em everything about it. The nations, which nations, and that one and the other one would go to war. When the war and all would be terminated the nations involved and everything. Am I lying, Dr. Gross?
Dr. Gross: No.
Dr. Kinley: Well, when that war broke out, now I’m in Cincinnati now, setting up in Cincinnati in my office, working for Wright Aeronautics Corporation. And there came an announcement on the public address system, ‘Shut the whole shop down.’ Nobody did work, just set down, there would be an announcement from the White House on the public address system. Truman would be announcing the end of hostility, and the document was signed at sea. They shut the whole shop down. Everybody set down. They didn’t have to be hiding from the boss, they just set down. And there was a fellow that belonged to the school, he’s setting right back there too. He set around, waited for a while, nothing came on the P.A., public address. Here he comes up to me in my office. Remember he was a student of the school now. He says, ‘Well Doc, is this the day that the war will be over?’ I said, ‘No, they just might as well go on back to work. It just won’t be today.’ ‘Is that so?’ I said, ‘Yes, that’s so.’ Now he didn’t try to dispute and argue with me. Dr. Allen would you mind standing up? Am I lying?
Fred Allen, Sr.: No, you’re not.
Dr. Kinley: That’s the man I’m talking about setting there. It wasn’t over. Now you can go get your history books and look and see. Now I had told you, remember I had told Dr. Gross way before it happened, that there was gonna be a war, when it was gonna break out, who was going to be involved and so forth and so on. Talking about the attack on Pearl Harbor? Said, ‘no, Chinese, Japanese wouldn’t jump on Peking.’ ____ ____
Now here’s what I am trying to tell you. Here’s what I’m trying to tell you. The things that I tell you, don’t you let nobody else come along and tell you something else. I’ve had 44 years, going on 45 years experience with this.
(THE FOLLOWING 2 SENTENCES WERE MISSING ON THE TAPE, SINCE IT WAS THE END OF SIDE 1. IN TAPE DUPLICATION THEY WERE LOST ON THE LEAD TAPE.) I know what I’m talking about. I’m able and capable to prove it.
Dr. Kinley: There hasn’t a major event that’s happened in the world that I didn’t tell this school about it, before it happened. That’s the reason why I say I don’t have to prove my ministry. I don’t have to worry about it. I don’t go home and sweat and carry on about it. I go on home and go to bed and go to sleep.
Got one more I wanna tell you about, then I’ll move. The reason why I wanna tell you about that is because in conjunction with what the man said this morning, I’m talking about Dr. Wilbur Traynham. He said, ‘these charts reveal the purpose of Yahweh when you understood them, and you wouldn’t be jumping up trying to resentful or disprove,’ which he said. I didn’t say it now. He said it. He said that he had tried that. Did you hear him say that?
Dr. Kinley: I wasn’t asleep then. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now here he is, he done come back to school. Lotta these things that I taught you folks through the years he knew nothing about. Now the man’s back in school and I said to him, ‘Now since you’re back, a lotta these things you don’t know nothing about; such as people being healed, the things that I did and what you call prophecy and predictions is being fulfilled and taught in this school, but now I’m gonna tell you one that’s gonna be just for you,’ to Dr. Traynham I’m talking about. Now Dr. Traynham, if I’m lying I’d appreciate it very much if you’d get up and tell me to my face right in school that I’m lying. If I am, if I am lying I want you to do that. So now here we were. We were over in Athens, Greece, and the Greek Orthodox Church, Antigorus was head of it, was not in Greece. The Greek Orthodox, head of the Greek Orthodox Church was not in Greece. He was in Constantinople or Istanbul. Now I didn’t know that David was with him, Little David24 that went overseas. And it would be nice to mention something about that school over there, too, after that boy has gone on over there. David was with him.
24 David Rosen
I told Dr. Traynham, ‘Now this one is going to be just for you, and if what I tell you don’t happen then my advise to you is for you to get back out of this school as quick as you can and drag everybody out that you can get out.’ I said, ‘Now there will be.., this is for you.’ Since I had predicted a lot of them, about many things, which many of the people who’s been in this school for a long time know about. I said, ‘Now there’s going to be an earthquake in Istanbul within 48 hours. It will be in there within 48 hours. Now if it don’t happen like that then you get out of this school.’ There he is sitting right there. I said, ‘Now this one’s just for you.’ I didn’t know Little David was listening too. So within 24 hours there was an earthquake in Istanbul. And everyone of you had the privilege of reading it in the newspaper. I said nothing about it in this school. The fact of it I was confined to bed when I told him about it. Am I lying Dr. Traynham?
Wilbur Traynham: No, you’re not lying.
Dr. Kinley: Did it happen?
Wilbur Traynham: It happened.
Dr. Kinley: Now the reason why I brought all that up, I know what I’m talking about whether you understand it or not…
Dr. Kinley: On these charts. Now if Yahweh had not shown me, alright let’s say it this way, if He didn’t exist and hadn’t shown me, I wouldn’t know no more about it than anybody else. I don’t have nothing to boast and brag about on my own. I told you I never went to school. And incidently I noticed that Yahshua the Messiah didn’t go. They say, they lied on Him, they say He went to school, now I side with Him. Now read Dr. Harris, I’m talking about such time as now present.
Dr. Harris: Third chapter of II Timothy.
Dr. Kinley: Third chapter of II Timothy.
Dr. Harris: This know also….
Dr. Kinley: Now while you know so much about everything else, Timothy, know this too. Read.
Dr. Harris: That in the last days
Dr. Kinley: That in the last days
Dr. Harris: Perilous times shall come…
Dr. Kinley: Now listen does anybody have to tell you about that?
Dr. Kinley: All the many different churches that you find around, all the unemployment that you find around, all the hypocrisy, murder and everything. It presents a perilous time. Is that right?
Dr. Kinley: Alright. Now Paul is telling Timothy way back there about, now you know this, a perilous time are co… How did he know that there was going to be a perilous time? How would he know? Now here’s how he would know. I got it, I got it up here. I can tell you something too. Was because back here before the flood a perilous time happened. A dangerous time happened. Old man standing out there preaching 120 years. And if you think there was only eight people back there, you’re mis.., you’re sadly mistaken cause he preached unto the four corners of the earth, the then populated earth. And then there was a whole lotta people with him, went along with him. But when it got right down, when he got right down to the day of parting, he didn’t have nobody but him and his family. Now then that’s, listen just listen, at this time now is a repetition. I ain’t gonna have nobody but me and my family. That’s all. Alright Doc, read.
Dr. Harris: For Men shall be lovers of their ownselves.
Dr. Kinley: Now men shall be lovers of their ownselves. I’d like to tell you something in a way that you wouldn’t forget it. Up, up here, but you might take it in the wrong way. I just won’t tell you in that way. I’ll tell you this way. And you believe me when I tell you. I don’t care what you think of yourself. How important you may think that you are. Your opinion of your ownself, it makes no difference about how much money you got. Don’t make no difference at all. The world don’t care a thing about you. Now the reason why I said that to you is to keep you from coming up here on this floor and making a ass out of yourself. They don’t care nothing about you. They didn’t care nothing about the Messiah. They didn’t believe Him. They didn’t believe Noah. Now why should you get some kinda thought in your mind and get up on this floor and think somebody is going to be carried away with you. And all of them that would be tempted to be carried away with you, they will fall. Why? Because there’s nothing to stand on. They themselves.., as Yahweh said, as I live, saith Yahweh, to me every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess Yahshua to the satisfaction or to the glory of Yahweh. You’re gonna have to do it. Now it ain’t gonna do you no good at all getting up here saying things about this, these charts. It ain’t gonna do you no good.
Now let me give you one. It was stated as we’ve already stated, you have to move off of blood, water and spirit. Now we had read that what spirit was and there ought not to be anybody in this book, in this, in this class, or out in the streets for that matter, that have just, just a fraction of a sense to see if you come up of it and Yahweh is spirit and He’s the sum total of everything. And if you’re gonna come up off of that you haven’t nothing to stand on. Now this is the tabernacle. This is Him transfigured, the tabernacle. These vessels that are set in there they haven’t changed. You can’t take this and put it over here and this over there. You got to set where He told you, as Dr. Traynham told you this morning. Even those that constructed this tabernacle, even though Dathan, Korah, and Kor.., Nathan, Ibram, Dathan, Korah, they disagreed with him because they were master builders and Moses just… They weren’t up there in that cloud with him. They didn’t see it. Moses drew a line, said, ‘now who’s on Yahweh’s side get over here, who’s on their side get over there.’ And the earth just opened up and swallowed them up, that’s all, them that were contrary.
Now that’s all you’re gonna get out of this. Now I want you to know this. This is not my work. I have never had sense enough to do nothing like this. And it’s a little late now. I’m old and what the folks call senile. Don’t have good sense, if I didn’t have it back there in my youth I wouldn’t have it now. And I’ll say something else about that too. This might help some. Now people just get old, and they do get senile. Now I’m 80 years old, subject to senility. Well look, I can’t get this outa my head. I can’t get it outa there. It’s in there to stay. But now listen, the folks that I’m trying to teach it to, they can get old and senile and slip up, but I can’t. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) That’s right. I can’t do that. And I ____ straight just like it was. And for 44 years now, call you back, for 44 years things that I have been telling you about many times have been fulfilled. This school has been blessed whether you appreciate it or not. Somethings are hard to say. It’s hard for me to stand up here and tell you, just like Yahshua the Messiah went through those three and a half years, until He got right down to the end of it, and after He got down to the end of it, which He hadn’t done before. In the 23rd chapter of Matthew, He said, Woe unto you scribes and pharisees, you hypocrites, you won’t go in yourself and you won’t permit anybody else to enter in. ___ ___ ___ And He went on to tell them about devouring widow’s houses, is that right?
Audience: That’s right.
Dr. Kinley: and for pretense making great long prayers and all that kinda thing. And their hypocrisy, and then he finally said something, now how can you escape the damnation of hell. There’s no escape. So now.., you all sick of me now?
Dr. Kinley: Finish reading there, Dr. Harris.
Dr. Harris: For men shall be lovers of their ownselves.
Dr. Kinley: Now I’m telling you don’t nobody care nothing about you. They don’t give a tinker’s damn about you. So ain’t no need of you getting all stuck up in your self and get up here and try to be against Yahweh. They didn’t care that much about Yahshua the Messiah. They hung him out there on a tree. But listen folks, now get this straight. Don’t forget this one. These things must come. And if they did not come then this school would not be right. It’s just got to be this way. The wheat and the tares have got to grow together. Got to get right down to the end before things will be exposed. Now then, don’t forget now, Solomon put it like this, Rejoice, 0 young man and walk after the imagination of your heart but while you ‘re doing that, don’t forget for all these things Yahweh will bring you into the judgement. Now, proceed.
Dr. Harris: Covetous
Dr. Kinley: Covetousness
Dr. Harris: Boasters
Dr. Kinley: Now wait, just wait a minute, now you got the word covetous. Covetous, that means the desire to have something that belongs to the other fellow that’s not your own. Therefore, the law says thou shalt not covet. Thou shalt not covet what? Thy neighbor’s wife or his ox or his ass or anything else that belongs to him. Now here you’ve got it over here, the Apostle Paul says, covetous. Covet what? The best things. Desires. He didn’t say thou shalt not covet anything ____ ____ ____. How about that. Read on Dr. Harris.
Dr. Harris: Boasters.
Dr. Kinley: Boasters. Now somebody wants to boast that they know more about this than I do. You can’t do that. All you’re doing is just, some simple minded somebody, they may follow you on off someplace, but when it’s all said and done, you’re gonna have to do it either sooner or later. You’re going to have to get right back up in front of this class or in front of Yahshua, the throne of Yahshua and bow your knees and confess. So you, you’re not getting away with nothing. I want you to realize that. Alright.
Dr. Harris: Proud.
Dr. Kinley: They’re covetous, they’re proud, they’re boastful. Now, I’m boastful. I boast in Yahweh and He backs me up. And don’t you jump on that thing cause if you do I’ll get you. And listen here folks, I am not gonna do it. I just might as well tell you about it now. I ain’t going to set around here and see the devil come in here and drag off somebody. I ain’t gonna do nothing like that. So now you be very careful about what you say. Now if you wanna pull out, if you want to go somewhere, cut out, but you let the rest of these sheep alone. And when you think you’re gone, you haven’t, cause it’ll catch up with you just as sure as shooting. Ain’t that right Dr. Traynham?
Wilbur Traynham: That’s right. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)
Dr. Kinley: Now he said that’s right. Now let me tell you something about myself. In 1936 I went off and went to Cincinnati. Said, ‘well I won’t have to be bothered with that no more.’ Dr. Gross and a bunch of them in those days in Springfield, they went on home and set down. Then the preachers out of the churches which they attended, the Church of God there, they said, ‘now we’ll get ‘em back.’ But before I went to Cincinnati this is what I told ‘em. I said, ‘every last one of you who understand what I’m talking about, you’ll die just like I leave you if you never see my face again in the flesh,’ I said, ‘them that understood now.’ And that’s just exactly what happened. Every last one of ‘em that’s ever been in this school and understood what I’ve said have passed and gone. You know what I mean by passed, don’t you? They died right that way. And every last one of you that understands what I’m talking about, you’ll die just that way, if you are not living when Yahshua the Messiah is revealed from heaven. There’s nowhere else for you to go. Now…
Dr. Harris: Blasphemers.
Dr. Kinley: Blasphemers. Now, for you to get up and speak against this and think that it’s my work, that’s open blaspheming. You may think you’re hurting me, you ain’t hurting me. I see that it’s impossible for you to understand, that’s the way I see it, unless Yahweh reveals it to you, you can’t understand, Everybody been sitting under the sound of my voice had the privilege this morning, if not this morning, you have in your lifetime, of seeing the sunrise, seeing it ascend or reach its zenith in the sky, seeing it go down or set. Everybody in this building. Everybody breathing breathe, and alive. You read the story about His disciples come and steal Him away. He was the Son of Yahweh. You never, now you know today, you know today by the sunrise… Yahweh put them things out there the invisible things, put them visible things out there for you to understand the invisible things. Then when you read down there His disciples came and stole Him away, He was the Son. You know that’s got to be a lie. Why? Because can’t nobody come and steal the sun away that’s out here. Even though you weren’t back there. Somebody will say, ‘Well how do you know?’ Well you understand, you understand how I put the thing together? That’s the reason why it works like that. Somebody will say, ‘oh, that ain’t right.’ Say, ‘the earth moves around the sun.’ ‘Yes, it sure did.’ When He was in that tomb, there was an earthquake, and it moved around the Son. Yes sir. I tell you, this is something that you can’t do nothing with. Now let me say this, let me say this. Now as it was said, Dr. Harris also said it, Yahweh said, To the Law and to the Testimony, if they speak according, not according to this word it’s because there’s no light in ‘em. Now you oughta be wise enough, not to get up and speak against it, cause you’re telling on yourself. You’re telling to everybody that knows something about it, you’re telling on yourself.
Now somebody says, ‘Well why go to the law and why go to the prophecy?’ Now that’s what Yahweh said I didn’t say it. And when you go to the law and to the prophecy, now you follow me, now pay attention to what I’m saying. Just like He told Moses to build this tabernacle, to put the blood, water, spirit and this whole thing is line upon line, precept upon precept, line upon line all the way through. Seven steps in here, in this tabernacle. Now I’m going to try to prove this by you and me. I have been telling you ever since you have been knowing me. Since somebody said, you got to get up off of blood and water and spirit. Ever since you have been knowing me, for the most part, I told you that water baptism was invalid in this present age. Haven’t I told you that?
Audience: Yes sir.
Dr. Kinley: Haven’t I told you, you might read that too in the 9th chapter of Hebrews. The water is out ____. The blood of bulls, goats, and heifers is out. It never has been in, in order to be out. Now do you understand? But what this pointed to was the blood of Yahshua the Messiah. That isn’t out. And that water that run out of His side or out of His sanctuary, that was the sacrificial lamb of Yahweh. That’s not out. You may be but that isn’t. And it’s never gonna be out. It reaches all the way back to Adam and through all generations. Now if you would take it by the pattern, you got your blood, and your water, and you have the spirit there and the door or the concrete. Now I didn’t say nothing about them things, Yahweh said it. I told you I don’t know how many times, and all of you have seen me debate it, that physical water baptism wouldn’t do you no good whatsoever. It would not wash away sin. And you have read in the Book, have you got it there, that the blood of bulls, it’s the 9th chapter of Hebrews, I think it is.
Dr. Harris: For if the blood of bulls and of goats and heifers and ashes of a heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Yahshua, who through the eternal spirit
Dr. Kinley: Now just a minute. Now He wasn’t just a man, as a lot of you might think of Him, just a man hanging out there on the cross. It wasn’t like that. No. Unh-unh. It was through the eternal spirit that He offered Himself to Yahweh without spot. And Yahweh had to accept that cause the eternal spirit that was incarnated in Him that was Yahweh Himself. How much more is He sanctified to the purifying of the flesh, but He didn’t raise up, at that time, never done nothing for you back there then and up here now. What it did do was just simply pointed to Him as being the sacrifice that Yahweh prepared.
Listen folks, now that makes me say this to you, that makes me say this, them people over there that follows Mohammed, Elijah Mohammed, he never died for nobody. And if he had, it was not acceptable. It would been the same as Moses had died. It wouldn’t been of any effect. John the Baptist was born with the Holy Spirit and he did die. It never helped you a bit. That’s the reason why I don’t believe in running around arguing about Mohammed, the honorable Elijah Mohammed or Elijah back yonder, or Moses or none of the rest of ‘em. Yahweh had only one sacrifice. And all the rest of ‘em sacrifices and burnt offerings thou wouldst not but a body has Thou prepared for Me. Then said I, lo I come in the volume of the Book as it is written of me to do thy will 0 Yahweh. Listen now, He taketh away the first. What’s that for? That He might establish the second. Dr. Harris, would you mind reading that? Now look here folks, you can just read these things over and over and over and over again, just over and over til you get so you can repeat ‘em by memory and still miss the boat. Alright read.
Dr. Harris: Hebrews 10:5
Dr. Kinley: Hebrews 10:5
Dr. Harris: Wherefore when he cometh into the world, He saith sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears
Dr. Kinley: Do you see that? Now do you see that? They were offering up bullocks. Now Yahweh said so. That wasn’t His, that wasn’t His desire. Teach you a lesson. Sacrifices and bull offering thou wouldest not. Listen folks, but a body in which was flesh and blood. And I’ll say that to say this, Yahweh has never been crucified, has never hung on no tree. Never will hang on no tree. And Yahweh is not flesh and blood. Yahweh is spirit. Did you understand that? Sacrifices and burnt offerings from Cain and Abel on down through all this. Now look folks, I have taught you this. Now for somebody to get up and say that it’s out, as if that I had taught you that it was in. I ain’t never taught you nothing like that. Anybody that thinks I have, stand up, I’d like to see you. Now for you to get here in front of my friends and say water baptism or the blood and water is out, the spirit is out, you’re inferring that I have been teaching you that it is in. And I never taught nobody nothing like that in my life, for I’d rather suffer chastisement than not to tell you the truth. I have chastised a lot of folks.
Now you’re really not talking to me. And don’t you go making light of Yahweh’s testimony. Now another thing was stated that the kingdom of Yahweh or that the kingdom of God, as some say, is not being taught at 104025. Now that’s a lie. It is being taught at 1040. That’s all that’s ever been taught. Now when you say it isn’t, then you’re inferring that all I’ve been teaching you is full of lies. Well then, you want to know the reality of it? I never taught you nothing. I’m not capable of teaching you anything. I’m not qualified to teach you anything and neither is none of you. The Holy Spirit is the teacher. And I mean, do mean, He’s the same teacher that’s taught all the way through.
25 1040 South Grand Avenue, Los Angeles was the location of the Los Angeles Branch School.
Now I have something else I wanna say to you. If the true kingdom of Yahweh has not been taught at 1040 or in this school then you are a fool to have put some money in the first peace mission. And that means you’re a bigger fool to put some in the second. And a still bigger fool to put some in the third. Now I’m here to tell you, and you don’t never hear me talking no whole lot about no money, I’m here to tell you, you are the prophets. You are the people that’s responsible for carrying what Yahweh has revealed to you to the world out here. The rest of it is not acceptable.
Somebody will jump up and say, ‘You think you’re the only one that has the truth.’ They said the same thing to Yahshua the Messiah and He was the only son of Yahweh that was manifested in the flesh. You’ve got to watch against all of these things. Now I’m not saying what I’m saying here to belittle anybody. Yahweh forbid that I do that. We need every last one of you. And I’ve already tried to persuade you to ask and to try to get someone else to come and to listen to this vision. And we refuse, we absolutely refuse, you be the judge, we’ll let you, for the first time and the second time, get up on the floor and speak contrary against this work. We’ll let you, we’ll suffer that in order that you might see that what Paul said there, in the last days even among your ownselves, so you can see for yourself. We’ll suffer that. And we’ll put you right back up on the floor
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Dr. Kinley: you want to be stubborn and hot-headed about it, you’ll go to the lake. Now I said that so you can understand it. Cause if you didn’t, and as Dr. Traynham said this morning, you won’t, you can go right down here to the library, search all you please, You won’t find nothing line up like this here. Now I guess you’ve had just about enough of me.
Audience: No, No.
Dr. Kinley: But read where you were reading, Dr. Harris. Now I’m showing you now after all of these sacrifices, after all, from Cain and Abel on down, all the sacrifices and offerings… Yahweh created creatures, His of course, and He requested this as a.., in other words He ordered it. They were a substitute.
Now Billy Carroll sent me a paper, a advertisement slip piece of paper and it has “Yahweh,” an advertisement in the paper. And it says that Yahweh was a substitution for God. That’s wrong, That’s just exactly backwards. And it’s not a substitution for God, it’s a substitution for Lord. It’s wrong. Now look so you can see what I’m talking about. And out of all the human beings that’s ever been on the face of the earth, that includes the prophets, those that did have the Holy Spirit, every last one of ‘em, wasn’t any of them acceptable as qualified. Yahweh wouldn’t accept the sacrifice from none of them. He prepared a sacrifice, a body. And He came in that body. Do you see that now?
So then, if I know anything, that’s gonna make me see that none of the animal sacrifices that were offered up in that sanctuary, not a human being on earth, nothing that’s ever been in the world or out of the world would be acceptable unto Him but His own Son. Do you see that now? That’s all. He won’t accept nothing else.
So for you to go out here and call yourself following Elijah Mohammed, following Henry C. Kinley, we profess him too, following Freddie Allen and Bob Harris, Wilbur Traynham or anybody else… Now Paul did say this, follow me as I follow Yahshua the Messiah.
But now sacrifices and burnt offerings thou wouldest not but a body has thou prepared for me. Then said I, lo I come in the volume of the book as it is written of me to do thy will O Yahweh, He taketh away the first. I’ll read it. Is that what’s written in that Book?
Dr. Harris: Yes sir, yes sir.
Dr. Kinley: Now look at this: 550,000,000 Roman Catholics; look at Jehovah’s Witnesses; look at the Churches of God all over the world. Now it says, He takes away the first, all of the natural, every bit of it. Now here’s the Pope over there
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meddling with that which was under the first covenant, passover suppers. I heard the bell. Water baptism. All of the natural, everything. He takes it away that He might establish the first that you… Now listen folks, on the Day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit was poured out on the Jews. Seven years later on the Gentiles, Hebrews, that you might walk in the Spirit. Do none of those natural things, as a service unto Yahweh. Because He’s taken them away. And if you’re gonna continue to do them, you don’t believe the scriptures. You don’t believe the prophets of God, you think it’s going to continue on.
He said He come in to fulfill it, to take it out of the way, that He might establish the first. And then that promise, I’ll say this and I’ll sit down. That promise that was made to Abraham that in his seed, He would multiply his seed as the sands of the sea, as the stars of heaven.
Now listen folks. Listen close so you can take this home and study it. Now if He’s going to multiply his seed as the sands of the sea and as the stars of heaven. Now the Jews, they think that they are the seed of Israel. Now there is not 15,000,000 blood, Jews in the world. Now would you call that a multiplication of the sands of the seas and the stars of heaven?
Audience: No sir.
Dr. Kinley: Something wrong somewhere. See that now? You can’t say Yahweh made the mistake. But listen here. The whole family of heaven and earth is all called by the same name. Yahweh makes no difference between the Jew and the Gentile. He never has had anymore respect for the Jews than He has for the Gentiles? Never? He said, I repeat, Yahweh hasn’t had anymore respect for the Jews than for the Gentiles. All of then are called by the same name. All are the sons of Yahweh. He makes no difference between them.
Now listen folks, all that you can see… Now don’t jump up and say that the heavens and earth have already passed away. Don’t jump up and say that cause that’s not so. Yahweh did declare the end from the beginning and with Him it’s Him running His course, but with you it is not. So don’t you go trying to jump off out there into the ethereal space, and try to take something that you can’t see, can’t touch and can’t taste, can’t.., and try to fool some.., the people who see nothing of it. That’s why Yahweh made everything as it is. That’s.., listen, you have a mortal or physical body and an eternal spirit, if you are right, dwelling in a mortal body.
Now what’s coming up next is He’s going to transform this body into an immortal body. You do not have an immortal body now. The scriptures read this, look, He only hath immortality dwelling in the light which no man can approach. He is the fore runner and He ended it all in the same age. Yahweh gave Him that acceptable body.
Now your body is a vail for which be the Holy Spirit. You follow what I mean? So you can’t make any exceptions.
Don’t forget folks. Don’t forget. I want to see this place filled up. I want to see it filled up all the time run us out of this building if you possibly can. No sense in us going overseas preaching to somebody over there when we have people to preach to here, If you believe the truth, then I hope and trust that you’ve gotten something out of what I had to say tonight. I hope it has benefitted you some. The Holy Spirit prompted me to tell you as the end approaches in your life that this peace mission that they’re all getting ready to begin then the gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world before the end comes. Yahweh help us all understand that the gospel of the kingdom be preached in all the world. And as Yahshua the Messiah say, peace.
Jehovah’s Witnesses and Roman Catholics, if they had preached it in all the world the end would have already come. But they haven’t preached. Somebody haven’t preached. Okay, I hope you’ve gotten something out of it.
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