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by Henry Clifford Kinley

November, 1970

Los Angeles, California

CATALOG #:  70.11? SSD

received from Fred Allen Jr.

1 90 minute audio cassette

transcribed by Marianne Matacle and Cathy Fenti

proofread by Geraldine Rothstein and Mary Gross

approved by the International Public Relations Committee – April, 1995


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Dr. Kinley:  …Now the thing that is most important about the world situation anywhere you go is the people’s response to the gospel, the reality of the gospel.  And now that’s what is most important.  Now if you’ll notice that Dr.., he told you about the Muhammedans.  Now if you look in your history book, you would find that the Muhammedans number around 4 and a better million; in other words, the Roman Catholics, they’re supposed to be the greatest in number. 

Man:  Supposed.

Dr. Kinley:  I said supposed. 

Man:  Yeah, it’s supposed to be.

Dr. Kinley:  And, now then, the thought that’s so important is this:  we have sent our books all over the world.  And now, Allah is the Muhammedan deity, and they have there in Saudi Arabia.  You’ve heard us talk about going overseas in 1967 and 1969 and we do plan to go overseas.  Now all of these places that he spoke about, I’m gonna let you know I’m familiar with `em, every last one of `em, although I have never.., nobody has ever known me to go out of this country and go over there, but I have been there. 

Student Body:  (LAUGHS)  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  The Wailing Wall, and so forth and so on, that you read about in your Bible.  But now the most important thing is, is this:  is the doctrine.  Now all these tricks and all that they do over there, Dr. George Washington Carver, who was the.., possibilites are some of you’ve heard me mention.  Dr. Gross knows him personally.  He was exceptional in his day.  He used to travel with the American Archeological Expedition there to foreign lands and countries, and the American Expedition there of course was.., he was with them when they dug up King Tut.  And he also went to this mosque.  Not the one that they got now, this is one, this is a new building.  And he told about how those priests performed all these various different things, about the sword and 4 horses and so on.  Now he said that he was a witness to it and he had seen those things.  But now here’s what I wanna tell you about that.  Them tricks.  Yes, you can punch, punch in something through your hand or something or like that or, and they do all them things.  They know how to go into what you might call a, a hypnotic state, I’ll try to tell you in the way you understand it so you know what I’m talking about.  Now those are true, and all like that. 

     Now here, ___ which.., I don’t know if you’ve ever heard me say anything about it before.  ___ from India, he come over in this country, just like this man that we had over here from Eastern Hollywood,

Man:  Astoria. 

Dr. Kinley:  Astoria.  And he went into this trance and they buried him, put cotton in his nose and in his mouth and everywhere, and they buried him.  The doctors felt his pulse, no pulse or nothing like that and they buried him.  And the Dodgers and the Giants, I think it was, played baseball over, over his dead body.  They took him up and then slowly.., he called it the resurrection from the dead and all of these ___ ___.  And so slowly he come back to life.  Now he didn’t do that for ___.  They look for ___ to perform these things in Ohio.  Now when it comes to Messiah, there’s no trick to it. 

     But I had to tell you all of that in order to let you know, that people, when it comes right down to accepting this truth.  Now this.., he’s a prince, his name is.., of course he first called himself Addis Ababa.  Baba, over there in the desert at this mosque that he himself has built it and the old one is there too, but this is a strange thing, they just went up there in the desert almost unnoticeable.  And we have documents and all those kinda of things on it, I have it at the house.  And Dr.., I can get it, this one belongs to him.  Now the one that I have is a later, and it tells you about this man.  He’s supposed to be the deceiver and he believes in Allah.  And he’s supposed to come, and performed a whole lotta miracles over there.  And the people are looking that in this last 7 years or the last week of Daniel for this deceiver to appear on the earth plane.  Now if you notice, and I had Dr. Traynham to read the 16th chapter of Revelations.  Now there’s 3 involved in this, not just one, but there’s 3:  the beast, the false prophet and what else?

Man:  frogs.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right.  3 unclean spirits.  Now that’s the satanic trinity.  Now they are all involved in this.  And, now then here’s another thing.  Now, they have been.., I’ve been trying to tell you these heavenly birds, they come right out of heaven and right down through the dispensations and ages. 

     Now here’s what’s happened, now if you look in the 24th chapter of Matthew, you’d find there that from the time of this tribulation on down until the revelation, why then there was to be a time (now listen at what I’m telling you) there has never been like that before in the history of the world.  Supposing you find it there in Matthew and read it.  Now this is what’s happening.  Now this is what is happening.  Yahweh is giving His ministers from pentecost, He’s given them power, and fact of the matter He’s in them preaching and the other side of it, He’s given them more power than they’ve ever had to demonstrate and to manifest.  And the deception has become so keen, so awful keen until it’s hard for the people to know the difference between one thing and the other.  Do you understand? 

     Now, we’ve often said to you that Yahweh Elohim was given me a vision and a revelation.  He also gave me the gift of healing and all.  And then we try to explain that to you.  And there is people setting under the sound of my voice, they’ve been healed of cancer and every other kind of thing, been in the hospitals and everything has happened to `em.  Now let me say this to you.  Healing this physical body, that is no good, not now.  Now Yahshua the Messiah said this to His disciples.  You know He raised Lazarus from the dead, you would call that a mighty stupendous miracle.  Well that, that’s a mighty thing.  Dead 4 days.  Well now look, if He tells His disciples that greater things than He done shall they do, what could be any greater?  There must be something there.  Now this is what we have tried our best to do.  It’s back here in the garden of Eden, it wasn’t in just that the fruit on the tree was pleasant to the eyes and so forth and so on.  It wasn’t that Yahweh was fooled with the man and He didn’t know what the man was gonna do, but the fact is that He told him not to touch.  Now when he touched it, I want you to see, he’s died instantaneously in his conscience, his inner self, his inner man was dead and yet he walked around.  Now here’s what I’m pointing out to you.  It won’t be the healing of the physical body, you’ve got to go right back to that same place as of now to resurrect the man from the dead.  And to resurrect the man from the dead psychologically and spiritual is far greater than raising anybody from the dead irrespective and regardless how long they’ve been dead.  Now that was a greater thing that the disciples were to do.  Do you understand what I am talking about?  Now if you can get in here and preach the truth and get these people to see in their heart and in their mind and to believe and raise them out of all this religious corruption and delusion and all these old hell fired satanic spirits has crystallized the mind of the people with and all these old erroneous doctrines that’s preached by them over there in the Muhammedans and also by the Roman Catholics and by the Protestants.  That’s a far greater thing.  You get all of that stuff out of there. 

Student Body:  Alright. 

Dr. Kinley:  Yes, we’ve been crystallized in it, we’ve been from the, from the birth on up and it’s a hard thing to get them, that satanic spirits out of our hearts and out of our minds.  Do you understand what I’m talking about?  It’s just traditional, it’s custom.  We’re eroded, we’re crystallized in it.  And then satan has blinded our minds. 

     Now when it comes down to what we have been trying our best to tell you, we want you to know what the purpose of Yahweh is and all of this thing that we’re talking about in the creation of the heaven and the earth.  We want you to know His plan and His purpose, where’d it come from, where’s it going to.  We want you to know what He created, both good and bad, negative and positive.  We want you to know that it was first in heaven and it’s now coming down to the earth plane.  You wanna call your attention to the extent that you can stop and look at what you been taught and what you believed all your life.  Do you understand?  And these satanic spirits, Satan.  Now, you’ll never know unless Yahweh comes along and shows it to you.  And one thing He’s not going to do, never did do it and that’s this:  to leave something open for question relative to His purpose, and you don’t know what it is and He don’t give you nobody to tell you nothing about it and then He’ll send you off to a burning inferno or send you to hell for it.  Now that don’t make no kinda sense.  That don’t make no kinda sense. 

     I went down to a thrift shop, I’m always shopping at thrift shops.  And after I had been ___ one night last week, I decided within myself, when I got home, I said, `I’m gonna buy in the thrift shop, if I can find one, one of these jigsaw puzzles.’  And I found one.  I bought it, 25 cents.  Now, I said, `now I’m gonna take this jigsaw puzzle to school and show these people how..‘  ___ you see this picture here.  Now if you cut a jigsaw, cut this up into a jigsaw puzzle and you try to put it back in the wrong place, it just don’t fit.  Now if you, now if you, if you just try to press it, `now here’s a part of his eye,’ and you trying to press it up in his hair.  It just won’t go in.  Now here’s a finger and you’re trying to press it on where a toe belong.  It don’t fit, not cut out that way.  But when you put it together like it is, then you have the same picture in the puzzle that you have on the outside of the box.  Now then that’s what has to happen.  We have to show you by these charts here, these maps and what not.  And listen, you’re being foolish, you just can’t do it.  Get the point?  Why?  Because we know how the purpose works.  Did you find that over there in, in Matthew?

Reader:  Yes.  Start at the 21st verse.

Dr. Kinley:  Start at the 21st verse and read.

Reader:  For then shall be great tribulation,

Dr. Kinley:  Then shall be great tribulation.

Reader:  Now, such as was not since the beginning of the world

Dr. Kinley:  Since was not from the beginning of the world

Reader:  to this time,

Dr. Kinley:  To this time.  Now let me do this, let me give this to you first.  Now you see all of the people from Adam on down to pentecost,  all of them collectively speaking did not have the Holy Spirit.  Now that don’t mean nobody back there didn’t have it.  Now that’s not what we say.  Now we say what we mean and mean what we say.  Yahweh always has had somebody down through all the ages.  Enoch the 7th from Adam prophesied of what is, what’s even down here.  You understand?  He spoke to Noah.  Now that’s long before Pentecost.  Do you see what I’m talking about?  The, the, the problem is it’s Yahweh choosing whomsoever He will, now you can’t put yourself in it, and sending that individual in the world to tell the rest of the world.  And it’s just like He’s chosen whatever prophet He wanted to…   Now there was a whole lotta prophets, a lotta of `em were false and among them false there was true.  Now I’m talking about before Pentecost.  I’m talking about all down through here, never left, always has had somebody here.  In fact, if I were just to change that story up a little bit and tell you the real thing about it, He always has walked around in a man.

Student Body:  Alright.

Dr. Kinley:  You see what I’m talking about.  Do you follow what I’m talking about?  And now, in as much so that that’s true, there’s an old boy has walked around here too.  Listen, now that brings me to this, read that Dr. Harris, and I want you to open your Books to 12th chapter of Revelation, I’ll show you what I’m talking about. 

Reader:  There shall be great tribulations

Dr. Kinley:  Now then, there shall be great tribulations

Reader:  such as was not since the beginning of the world

Dr. Kinley:  Such as was not.  Now here’s why that is.  There never has been no time that since the beginning of the age that Yahweh poured out His spirit out on everybody.  He has, that’s His chosen vessels back there.  And then nobody else had it but them.  Moses, and Enoch, and Abraham and, and Melchizedek.  Now listen, now here comes up another one now and he’s trying to be something, he’s that false.  Now what do people on this earth plane have to do, now you have to do this, He’s given you at, in this last age an opportunity together, now you, you have an opportunity to be, to , here you come along and now you have to accept the spirit.  Now if you don’t do it since it’s free and since He’s in that vessel doing the preaching, if you don’t accept the way he preaches and you’re gonna accept it the way the devil do it, then you just done lost your soul. 

Student Body:  Alright.

Dr. Kinley:  You have to have the ability to judge it.  Now you talking about 9 planets, there’s 9 given gifts and one of them is the discerning of spirits.  You have to discern what that spirit is in that, in that, whomsoever it is.  You don’t be, just be gullible. 

     The most people of today, now this is the most people, for instance in Roman Catholicism and also in Protestantism, I wanna tell you something.  They don’t even know what’s in the Bible.  They don’t know the books to the Bible.  I’m speaking of the people collectively.  And they regarded you all that have come in this place, they’ve heard the scriptures of this stuff and been to Sunday School and so forth and so on.  You don’t know where the book of Jeremiah was, you don’t know where it is; you don’t know where the book of Numbers is, you don’t know where it’s at in the Bible.  And you don’t know what it’s all about, after, after somebody shows you.  Now you don’t know.  Now Yahweh’s got to give you somebody to straighten that thing out. 

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now there’s all kinds of interpretations.  Now then, I want to make this clear to you too.  He’s got some, Yahweh Elohim, (listen now, get this straight) He’s got some devils and them devils been in that Book.  He don’t lift his finger off the line, and that’s how you get fooled.  Them’s your chiefs and those are your leaders, those are your instructors, those are your, your teachers, got his finger on it in the Book too.  But I, I tried to speak both ways, I tried to speak of the, the congregation collectively, then I tried to separate it and show you this:  that the preachers good and bad, or the leaders of the people since pentecost,  see these devils?  And look, I want you to know that Yahweh said, He gives them power to perform these miracles, to carry `em out.  Now likely something you don’t understand because you don’t know how it works.  You get it?  Now he can’t do them things of himself, but Yahweh’s giving him power.  And right there on that score, He’s given it to, He’s in the other fellow and he’s explaining to you and telling you what that other fella’s doing.  He says, `well I haven’t been raised that way, I don’t, I, I, I was brought up as, his contrast,’ he said.  Now check out this power to him.  Now here’s Yahweh, now that’s correct.  And if you just now, if.., Mohammed’s not gonna accept you. 

     Now if you just stop, as we try to show you all the time, if you just stop.  Moses.., and we could tell you this, Moses alone and by himself, wasn’t nobody up there but him. For the devil gonna come along and he’ll try to tell you he knows more about it than Moses or Yahweh or anybody else.  Even tell you he don’t believe Moses’ story.  Now here’s why he would say he didn’t believe Moses’ story.  He said the mosaic account, said that the sun come in on the 4th day, and he said, `I, I can’t see that, I don’t see how you can have vegetation, first place, he couldn’t have placed the sun on the 3rd day.’ Now Yahweh moved the waters off the face of the earth and let the dry land appear.  It was a double operation on that day, we don’t ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ not that way.  There’s a double operation on the 3rd day, then there’s a double operation on the 6th day.  You got the double operation here on the 6th day, if we had time, we just can’t go over all these things.  Now then once the sun, now you got the sun coming in on the 4th day, can you understand it?  Now he said, `I can’t see how it could be like that, how are you gonna grow vegetation without the light of the sun and the warmth of the sun,‘  Therefore since the sun was on the 4th day and vegetation was on the 3rd, they don’t believe the mosaic account that’s given.  And they’re telling you what the opposition to it is.  Well then if you don’t know, then you go on forth.  They’ll tell you that the sun was first, then you go on forth.  Now then Yahweh’s gonna have to send somebody.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  I would prefer to say that another way:  He’d have to come Himself and explain it to you.  Devil ain’t supposed to know.  Then when Yahweh brings it to you.  You heard it the other way so long until you’re, `I don’t know about that.’  You get the point?    `I don’t know about that.’  You’re just done crystallized and corroded into these traditions and customs and ideologies and opinions, you see now?  See that now?  Then.., now the son was first.  But, here’s what he did, he got his tongue twisted.  He’s looking at the sun here put out here in the sky on the 4th day, instead of looking at the son over here, the son of righteousness.  This son created.., everything did come from Him.  But he’s got one mixed up with.., this is an incorporeal, this one’s physical.  Do you see that now?  You have to know something.  Do you see that?  Now if that’s revealed from pentecost on down, I mean all these things that was back here, that they didn’t know about.  And Paul says, I think it’s in the chapter of Ephesians, said Yahweh has hid them things in Himself, which in other ages was not made known, but is now manifest to the sons.  That’s why Messiah said, all the things that He said to `em, said when the comforter is come, just turn the thing around and show you really what we’re talking about.  While He was walking around here with `em in the flesh, said, `now I’m walking around here with you now, a whole lot of things is gonna be said that you won’t understand.’  that’s what He’s telling the disciples.  `But now when I quit walking around here with you and then get in you, then you’ll understand what I’m talking about, but I’ll bring all of that back to your remembrance and you’ll receive of my.., and I’ll show it to you.’

Student Body:  Alright.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s the way it’s got to be.  Then you can distinguish the difference between one thing and the other.  12th chapter of Revelation right quick.  I, I have to.., somebody’s watching my watch, you better get a bell or something with a ring in it, cause I didn’t get up here to watch no watch.  I don’t even have it on and I just now found out while ago over there, I didn’t even have it, home in the drawer.  Alright read.

Reader:  first verse.

Dr. Kinley:  12th chapter, begin with the first verse.

Reader:  And the temple of Yahweh was opened in heaven,

Dr. Kinley:  And the temple of Yahweh was opened in heaven.

Reader:  and there was seen in his temple

Dr. Kinley:  Now look, John is seeing a vision.  The 12th chapter.  Now I want to tell you what I’m after there.  I’m after showing you where there was a war in heaven and John is seeing it, being revealed to him in the spirit.  He saying the temple was opened in heaven.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings,

Dr. Kinley:  There was lightnings and voices.

Reader:  and an earthquake, and great hail.

Dr. Kinley:  And great hail.

Reader:  And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;

Dr. Kinley:  And there appeared a great wonder

Reader:  a woman clothed with the sun,

Dr. Kinley:  A woman clothed with the sun.  Hold it, hold it, hold it.  And the moon under her feet.  A woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet.  The woman’s clothed with the son.  Now we’ve just done tried everything we know how.  We, we, we’ve done it.  We first showed you that Yahweh was masculine and feminine.  We told you that Elohim was a plural word.  Then we’ve told you that Yahshua, He had a wife and a bride, that’s plural.  Now here’s John in the spirit, he sees a woman clothed in the sun.  Now in order for Him to manifest that thing down in the earth, He’s got to bring forth that man Adam; and that woman has got to be in that son, she’s clothed with it, cause He’s showing you what’s in the incorporeal by putting it down here on the earth plane.  And Moses was the only man that saw that; in other words Moses looked right at Him.  Created Adam.  And consequently he was the only one that could say that he was made in the likeness, man was made in the likeness and image.  But Moses was not there when He, when He really created it.  This is a, now listen here, they told you about it being a rerun.  Now Yahweh only has the power to go back through something that happened in a clear long time ago and show it to a man step by step.  And that’s what’s happened up here in this mountain.  He’s showing Moses what he done.  And when he gets, Moses is witnessing Him creating the man.  And then he said this man is in the likeness and image of this.  Standing out there, he said the woman was clothed with the son.  Then He caused a deep sleep to fall on this Adam and took the woman out of the man, took the rib and the womb and made it.  Somebody said, `well it looks like you oughta have 12 ribs on 1 side and 11 on the other.’  No, that’s the only bone in the body that will grow back out.  Now if you cut your leg off, you have to go to the hardware store.  A leg won’t grow out, I’ll assure you of that, but a rib will.  Is that alright doc.

Dr. Harris:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  So then you got as many on 1 side as on the other.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained in birth to be delivered.  And there appeared another wonder in heaven;

Dr. Kinley:  See now you got it both ways there.  Now you know what I mean by both ways.  You got the woman clothed with the son and now then you got the woman, she’s pregnant with the child.  Therefore we tell you the woman is of the man and so also is the man, Yahshua the Messiah, born of the virgin Mary.  John’s got the whole story there.  Read on. 

Reader:  And there appeared another wonder in heaven;

Dr. Kinley:  Now he says I seen wonders appear back there.  Read on.

Reader:  and behold a great red dragon,

Dr. Kinley:  And behold a great red dragon.

Reader:  having 7 heads and 10 horns,

Dr. Kinley:  Having 7 heads.  Now don’t you see the 7 days here, 7 days in the week, 7 thunders and 7 stars, 7.  Do you see what I mean.  7 is complete, having 7 heads but it’s all in one body.  And people have read that you know and.., `I hope I don’t meddle with a thing nothing like that.’  You got even somebody is wondering whether’s something out there in the sea is gonna raise up out there, ___ everything and all. They even got a story in there now over there in the foreign countries where they’re expecting some great animal or something to rise up out of the sea with these 7 heads.  That’s that dragon John seen.  I, I haven’t got time to go into all of this but read on doc.

Reader:  And his tail drew the 3rd part of the stars of heaven,

Dr. Kinley:  And his tail drew the 3rd part.  Now what he’s really talking about is.., talking about casting out those imps.  Now there’s got to come right straight through these 7 ages.  And got to come, start right there in Eden, the garden of Eden and he’s got to come on down, right on down, right past where we live manifested in, in these preachers and all and their satanic powers and all the corruption and the idolatry and ignorance that these preachers are preaching that you have be taught all your life.  And it’s hard to discern that what’s right.  Now how, somebody’s expect, down here and a lot of the smart boys, college bred, say, `I don’t understand Revelations.’  It one of the simplest books in the Bible.  Why?  Because it explains what has been revealed and that’s what Yahweh is telling him about.  Alright, read.

Reader:  8th verse.  And there was war in heaven: 

Dr. Kinley:  Now look, there was war in heaven, there was war in heaven.  Alright go ahead.

Reader:  Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;

Dr. Kinley:  Michael and his angels fought. 

Reader:  and the dragon fought and his angels,

Dr. Kinley:  Now you see.  Now here’s what I want you to see now.  If you could just once get it in through your thick skull that them satanic, angelic spirits were first in heaven.  And did you notice that his tail drew the 3rd part of the stars in heaven.  Now, who do you know that can give you any.., well let’s say a good guess about how many stars there are up there in the uni.., up there in the sky.  It’s an innumerable.  And his tail drew the 3rd part of the stars from heaven.  Is that right?  A third part of `em now.  Now why a 3rd?  I want to know why a 3rd?  Do you know?  Well then somebody will have to tell you if you don’t know.  3 thirds equals a whole.  Is that almost right?  It’s just like you divide, it’s just like you draw something on the board, and then you divide it up into 3 parts:  here’s 1, here’s 1 part, this is 2 parts, and 3.  Now this is what happened.  This is all, this part is drawn out; there’s a 3rd of it.  Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  His tail drew the 3rd part of the stars from heaven, all this part.  Then you only have 2 parts left.  That’s a whole lot of it, wasn’t, wasn’t, wasn’t it. 

Student Body:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  And then what doc?

Reader:  And the great dragon was cast out,

Dr. Kinley:  And the great dragon was cast out.

Reader:  that old serpent,

Dr. Kinley:  That old serpent.

Reader:  called the Devil, and Satan,

Dr. Kinley:  Called the Devil and Satan.

Reader:  which deceiveth the whole world: 

Dr. Kinley:  Now he deceived the whole world.  Now watch.  Right back here in the garden that woman was deceived and all of the posterity that come from ___, that old serpent, that old Devil, cast out and all them millions of satanic spirits.  Now look, in heaven, they were called angels.  And when they are cast out into the earth, they are demons.  That’s the reason why we get the drag on,  because in this blunt end of this thing.  And another one’s preaching and teaching something else, and another one’s teaching something else.  7 major doctrines, 7 major, and all of the rest of the little imps is all embodied right up in, into that, all embodied into the one satanic spirit, though they be many, it’s all embodied in 1, 7 branches.  And Yahshua, He, He, 7 is there too, which means complete.  And everything that’s embodied within him.  Now in order to make that picture, He’s got to take that man and put that man down there and then take that woman out of the man and take the woman and impregnate here and let her be the mother of all living.  You see what I mean.  That’s why you take the natural things to look back at the spiritual things.  That’s what you got in Romans 1: 19 and 20.  Is that right?  Now them satanic spirits, a third part of `em was cast out and cast down, and that’s called the Devil and Satan and his angels or his demons.  And all of `em is embodied in Satan or there’s one dragonic beast.  Do you understand what I’m talking about?  Alright, read.  I simply said the devil is satan.  Is that right?  You see now, he’s got to, you come back over here and read over here about that old serpent being cast out, over here in the 3rd of Genesis, you know it’s talking about that same one, over there in Genesis.  And he’s just come right straight on down, right straight on down.  Now let me, I wanna say this.  Now here’s how you get fooled.  Now here’s how you get fooled, with your finger right


Dr. Kinley:  on it in the Bible.  That’s the reason why I tell you this is not a Bible reading, scripture quoting contest.  And if you notice that this particular nature of the devil and the temptation in the wilderness, I mean out there with Yahshua was baptized, and when He went into the wilderness.  Say Freddie, he put the scripture to Him.  The devil is not one to take up a whole lot of stuff, he put the scripture to Him.  He said `it’s written.’  `If you be the son command these stones to be made bread, for it’s written.’  `It’s written, He shall give His angels charge concerning thee, and in their hands shall they bear thee up lest at any time thy dash thy foot against a stone.’  That boy’s going by what’s in the Book.  But you, one of them devils come on and tell you anything, tell you that the Pope had plenitude of the power and he can put you in heaven and just done scared the living daylights out of you.  And you’re afraid to come out of their satanic body.  And you’re all crystallized and all balled up with it and go right on back.  You talking about going back to your grandparents, you go all the way back here, come down out of heaven.  And now, the time has come when He poured out His Holy Spirit.  And there hasn’t anybody got any excuse now.  

     Now I wanna show you where they balled up at, that’s what I’ve tried to show you.  Now you listen at what I’m talking about.  Where you got the New Testament there, you’ve got there:  and now the birth of Jesus was on this wise.  And you go on down and you see the things that you hear, circumcision, baptism, He goes to the passover, goes and gets His lamb and goes to the passover.  Now you’re reading there out of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, that’s a biography.  Now the devil out yonder told you that Jesus was setting an example for them and that you should do as He did.  Now, what He was doing was fulfilling that which He had instituted and this is what you’ve got, you’ve got a record of Him fulfilling Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  And everything that the apostles said, they referred back there to the scriptures and showed you the fulfillment.  It’s written Abraham had 2 sons.  Every time, every time one comes up, he tells you that.  But here’s what I’m trying to say to you, the, the preacher’s a devil.  He comes up, say, `look, I’m going by the Bible.’  And he said, `Jesus said as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, we show forth His death and suffering till He come.’  He’s got his finger right on it in the Bible.  He’s got it that Jesus was baptized.  He’s got his finger on it.  Now you can’t dispute that.  You see the point?  And anybody can read it.  You see what I’m talking about?  And he said, `and now look, I, I’m following the Bible.’  And the pope, he’s out there and all running around saying mass everywhere, saying mass and looking for him to come on the sermon and all that kinda ___, awful particular about the linen cloth and everything, and his so precious blood of Yahshua the Messiah, and He changes grape juice into the blood of Jesus Christ.  Now that’s a stupendous miracle.  Think so?  And then you, you’re stupid enough to set up there and believe him.  And now look, and listen, get this straight now.  He, He told them that that was last time that He was.., that that was the last supper.  They won’t do that that way no more.  Now, all, way before He was born.., now what you got in here is a biography of Him fulfilling.  Now you come along and you say that.., see the devil with his finger on it too, says, `Jesus said for us to do this.’  Now, that was in this dispensation, that was in this world, that was in this age.  Now you take the natural things, that’s exactly what it is, this is the natural to show the spiritual.  So now in.., when His flesh was hanging on this cross I mean that physical man is out of it.  Then you come over in this age where the Holy Spirit is poured out.  Now then, here comes the, the devil, he’s telling you Jesus said `as often as you eat this bread and drink of this cup you show forth His death and suffering.  Jesus was baptized and He’s resurrected from there, said go and baptize.’  And he’s preaching a doctrine like that, whereas all of the natural that was given back there was a schoolmaster to bring you up so you’d know what’s in the spirit, it’s blotted out and nailed to the cross, the natural things is nailed to the cross, you too.  And now we’re walking in the, in the heavenly fashion, we’ve born the image of the earthly, now we’re walking in the spirit. 

     Now that bread that you eat, when you go home tonight and eat it, and then it’s masticated and goes on down to the esophagus and goes on down into the intestinal tract and it’s masticated and digested and assimilated and then passes through the abdominal tract on into the blood stream.  I give you physical steak.  Is that right?  And just as ___ ___ ___ and the blood points to the life, the life of the flesh is in the blood.  Now listen, that.., and the breath of life.  Now you got that, the breath of life.  Now that’s the flesh.  But now that’s not what we’re after.  That strengthens your physical body and it don’t do you no good whatsoever when it comes to the spiritual.  So now the bread that we have to give you now is that real bread which is the spirit.  And if you’ll eat that or you partake of that, you will never die.  Now we’re not talking about the physical body.  Do you understand? 

     And that’s how the devil fools us, reading in the Bible.  They said `Jesus instituted.’  He’s a liar.  He, he can’t ful…, say institute and fulfill all at the same time.  The thing’s got to be instituted back here and fulfilled ___ way.  You got the Bible here.  Now the Roman Catholics and Protestants both do that.  Well now here’s what I’m gonna say, man don’t know over here.  Now here’s what I’m gonna say, you got all these devils out here, you got `em all out here, he’s cast out of heaven in popes and preachers and popes and cardinals and bishops and what not and reverends and so forth and so on.  Now here you set, the congregation.  Now you have got to hear the truth of it and the truth will make you free.  It will deliver you from everything natural, even deliver you from this physical body that you might have an incorporeal.  And yes indeed ___ with the natural body.  And when you get straightened out then you can see that angel.  My preacher cried over there, talking ___, `I love preaching the Word of God, and Jesus said.’  All that kinda demonic stuff.  You see what I’m talking about?  Stomping and wiping sweat, `I’m preaching the gospel, Jesus said as often as you eat this bread and drink of this cup you show forth my death and suffering till I come.’  Not realizing that He went to the grave, come right back out and went right straight back up there.  And that feast was 7 days, the feast of unleavened bread, right straight back up there and here’s where He went.  `Do you know,’ told Thomas, you know He was up there and Thomas didn’t want to believe the resurrection from the dead.  Now when you say, `as often as you eat and drink you show, forth his death and suffering till He come,’ you are preaching that He’s dead and buried and hasn’t ever resurrected from the dead.  All twisted up, all messed up, not only on the names but everything else, the doctrine.  Do you see through what I’m talking about? 

     Now we feel, this is what I wanted to say about Dr. Joe Huyssee.  Now I, I, I’ve been complaining about it, I want you to know it.  We don’t want no papal mess, and regalia and stuff indicating that I’m a so and so and so.  We don’t want no long hair.  Paul said `long hair’s a disgrace’ or a shame to a man.  Now somebody said, `well he wasn’t talking about the spirit, talking about the spirit.’  Yes, he is.  Long hair was given to a woman.  And then somebody come back and you know talking about, the vow of the Nazarene and them folks over yonder.  They let their hair grow out long, I know all about it, I know more about it than you do but that don’t spell nothing, it don’t count a damn thing, you don’t know nothing with your hair all grown out.  Why do want to try to mock somebody and be like somebody else, why don’t you be like Yahweh.  You see what I’m talking about?  And that’s why I said, quit trying to play hippie and hippie, all that kinda stuff.  Get on down to business.  Now when they go to wearing robes all over America and everywhere, I’ll conform to that.  I’ll get me a robe to wear.  If everybody don’t wear it, I ain’t gonna wear it.  I’m gonna wear pants and a suit and I’m gonna cut my hair off.  I don’t want no lice trap on top of my head (I’m just gonna tell you straight about it) and conform.  Now when I want to wear mine like that, then all the rest of you do it.  If all, you all done cut yours, I’m gonna cut mine off too.  Somebody says, `well, I don’t care what you say, I won’t do it, I’m gonna do what suits myself, I got the Holy Spirit.’  This is holy that I’m trying to tell you about.  The reason why Yahshua the Messiah didn’t shave His head is the vow of the Nazarite.  He had, in order to fulfill the scriptures He had to have a beard.  But I wanna tell you, I wanna say this, when John saw Him in the spirit had hair like Lamb’s wool.  You never seen a lamb’s hair grow all down shaggy and all likea that, like you do on a goat.  Now there’s a difference between the flesh and the spirit.  Now, so now He didn’t shave or He didn’t cut His hair off because He had that.., now look He wasn’t bound by no vow of no Nazarene, but He’s gonna fulfill the whole thing.  You see the point?  But since He was from Nazareth and He’s gonna fulfill everything, all of them vows, so then He let His hair grow until after His vow was fulfilled.  And then He cut it off.  He cut it off.  ___  He cut if off.  Paul, when he went to Jerusalem, ___ ___ ___ ___ when he went to Jerusalem, up there to preach to them jews that was so devout and holding to the law.  You know what he did?  Shaved his head and went up there, took that ___, shaved his head, so that they would think that he was a, was a Nazarene, shaved his head, like Bishop Short’s got his shaved.  Why yes, I’m just, I’m not trying to make no diabolical remark about anybody, I’m just trying to show you how people are deceived by these satanic spirits clothed with their regalia and their robes and their dress and all these outward signs and don’t know a thing about God nor the ___.  And we don’t want you to be like that.  We want you to conform so that they can’t tell you about your dress, can’t say nothing about me.  And I’ll even buy you a coat so that you can conform and we all can be the same and conform.  Somebody might just, somebody going down the street with long hair and say, `well, that’s a hippie.’  Or they might say, `well that’s..‘ if it happens to be a black man, say, `well that’s a black panther or that’s a black muslim.’  Get on away from that junk.  I don’t want nobody branding me like that.  You see what I mean?


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