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35) SEPTEMBER 20, 1974:



by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley


audio cassette recording received from Fred Allen, Jr.

1 90 minute audio cassette


CATALOG #: 74.0920


transcribed by Marilyn Kimmie and Fran Como

first proofreading:  Keith Gilkey

second proofreading:  Cathy Fenti

third proofreading:  Michael Rothstein

fourth proofreading:  Gerry Rothstein


fifth proofreading:  International Public Relations Committee

approved by the International Public Relations Committee:  1997



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Dr. Kinley:  …personnel of this school to is call your attention to the things that we are doing to send this gospel throughout the world.  I wanna tell you and offhanded that this is the gospel of the Kingdom that Yahshua the Messiah said would be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, now listen, and then shall the end come.  Now we have told you that we have sent our book and our work to political and also the ecclesiastical authorities throughout the world.  We have a returned book here from Nelson Rockefeller.  Sent it back.  Now this is what some of ‘em do, they don’t accept it in the mail.  Very few of ‘em have been returned to us. They say some of ‘em just won’t accept it, that are in the files at your vice president’s ____ ____.  Then we also have a letter from Philippine Islands.  I haven’t read it.  But there is a request that I am to come ____ ____.  Dr. Dennis Droulard read it, that they would like a school over there in the Philippine Islands.  And it is from some of Sister Jones people, she went over there and talked with some ____ and they are interested in ____.  Them islands it’s about 95% Roman Catholic.

And now the reason that I got up here tonight is this:  as I’ve already told you that we have sent our work around the world to the political and ecclesiastical heads.  And we want you to know that a lot of ‘em have stole a lot of our work.  They won’t acknowledge that they received what knowledge they do have of it from us.  And they ____ ____ could get it and look at the.., what they said there.  They even use the same words that we use.  The theosophical society, I believe I told you this last week, they use some of our exact words and quotations.  We know the source or derivative of where they got it from.  Now we’re going to continue to send this on out through the world and we want you to be aware of the fact that this is the truth.  And that the end, I’ll call it the end of this probationary period, is at hand.  There isn’t anything that you can think of in the world; religious corruption and pollution, all kinds of sects and creeds and erroneous doctrines, which the apostles and Yahshua the Messiah mentioned about.  Then to make the matters worse, you read there in Genesis about the condition of the earth and in the beginning of the creation, and it was.., darkness covered the face of the deep, the spirit of Yahweh moved upon the water.  And Yahweh said let there be light and there was light.  That amalgamation and conglomeration and darkness and chaosis of everything physical in the creation had to be organized and set in the respective position and placed.  And now we have gone back into that chaosis in every respect.  The water is polluted.  The air is polluted.  The land is polluted.  Religion is polluted.  Politics is corrupt.

You can’t point out anything that is ____.  And many millions of people now have turned thumbs down on joining any church at all.  And they have, some of ‘em have given up in despair in looking for the truth.  And there’s some of those that we have contacted and sent our literature to as I’ve already told you they’ve stole some of our literature and some of our teaching and so forth and so on, but they won’t acknowledge where they got it from.

Now I told you last Wednesday night about this Ambassador College.  We sent the Holy Name Bible there and we sent other literature there; such as the article on the creation, about institution and fulfillment and so forth and so on.  We sent it to them.  And you heard me get up there last Wednesday night, this past Wednesday night, and tell you about some of the things that was contained in this article.  I didn’t have you to read anything at all and I was requested to have something to say about it, read something out of these books so that you could see.  And then we wanna make some scriptural reference to show you how people.., a lot of ‘em will, no sooner than they hear something from me, some of ‘em will steal it and try to use it, which Ambassador College has done in part.  And that’s one of the things that they took was this.  They said that, Ted Garner Armstrong said it on TV.  The possibilities are some of you might have heard him when he made the statement.  He said there was many things that his father did not know and neither did he.  For example or for instance, he said millions of people did not realize and did not know that Yahshua or that Jesus was back, he didn’t say Yahshua, said Jesus was back here with Moses.  And he quoted the 10th chapter of first Corinthians and so forth and so on.  Now if he didn’t know that either not until he read our literature.  And so now things are said, often times when you tell ‘em something, they wanna raise up about it.  They wanna start some kind of a disputation, and they write opposing articles and say in so many words that we are wrong about what we’re talking about.  Not only do they at Ambassador college, but they do that every which way, all over the world.

Now I want something read out of this book.  I want.., now this is called, one of the books they have that’s called “The Plain Truth.”  Now this is what they’re teaching.  You see the black board is standing here and there’s a man, an angel.  And they’re saying, ‘the “Plain Truth,” free, free, please take one.’  And then there the stand every one and here’s the stand with the “Plain Truth” and you call it updating.  And this is the “Good News” that goes along with the “Plain Truth.”  This one is usually ____ by Ted Armstrong himself.

Now this here is got this right here.  And here’s another ____ here, you see articles that’s written by Ambassador College.  I told you last week that they’re income was 53 million dollars a year.  And every time that they write anything or put out anything, why then they show that they know so much about this and so much about that and so much about the other.  And now we have done this religiously since the foundation of this school…  And it was established because of the vision and revelation that Yahweh gave to me.  And it has continued on down through the years.  And we have challenged the world, I want you to realize that.  I want you to know it.  And this school is known all over the world.  And nobody has ever come up with anything to refute and to dispute this teaching.  Sometimes people get books like this and then they want to come in and show us where somebody has said we was wrong, not in so many words but by the articles that they write.  Now here’s one.  I want this read.  I want this read right down here.

Dr. Harris:  we observe that he was on earth as a son of man.  Believe or not, he would keep the passover just as he kept it with his disciples.  Observe the feast of Pentecost and the feast of tabernacles, but this case, the Church of God has been ____ in the annual holy days are ordained by God in the time of Moses.  It is another unique factor clearly setting God’s purpose apart from all others.  But why are these festivals still observed in this modern age of space travel and advanced technology.  Here is the answer made plain from your Bible.

Dr. Kinley:  Thank you ever so much.  ____ went on and wrote this whole entire book showing that if Yahshua the Messiah was here what He would be doing.  Now I had this read.  Now that is a lie.  That is not so.  And He would not be doing it that way.

Now the question is, there may be some new people here that don’t understand, so it’s incumbent upon us to explain why I said that was a lie and that it, He wouldn’t be doing that, and explain it from the Bible.  I had the 26th chapter of Matthew read.  That was one of the passover feast.  And right in that 26th chapter, He said to His disciples that night, that He would not be eating that with them anymore.  That was the last supper.  Now if that was the last supper, if He was here, He couldn’t eat another one.

Now, I wanna show you something else about that same thing.  Turn over to the 28th chapter of Matthew and the 19th and 20th verse.  And somebody get John 19 and 30.

Dr. Harris:  Go ye therefore

Dr. Kinley:  Go ye therefore.  Now He.., this is after the resurrection and now He’s talking to His disciples.  Go ye therefore

Dr. Harris:   And teach all nations

Dr. Kinley:  And teach all nations

Dr. Harris:   Baptizing them

Dr. Kinley:   Baptizing them

Dr. Harris:   In the name of the father

Dr. Kinley:  Now He said in the name of the Father, teaching them to observe all things, baptizing them in the name of the Father.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  And of the son

Dr. Kinley:  And of the son

Dr. Harris:  And of the holy spirit

Dr. Kinley:  And of the holy spirit

Dr. Harris:  Teaching them to observe all things

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right.

Dr. Harris:  Whatsoever I have commanded you

Dr. Kinley:  They was to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.  Now

listen at this next.

Dr. Harris:  And lo

Dr. Kinley:  And lo

Dr. Harris:  I am with you

Dr. Kinley:  I am with you

Dr. Harris:  Always

Dr. Kinley:  Always

Dr. Harris:  Even unto the end of the age

Dr. Kinley:  Now what do you think of that?  I’m, I, I mean to be telling you that by His own words that He is with you even unto the end of this age.  Now what he’s saying here, if He were here, He would be observing…  Now it looks bad and it sounds bad to people to make a statement like this:  that Ambassador College, the Roman Catholics and the Protestants don’t know what they’re talking about.  They are definitely and positively wrong.  Now that’s sounds bad, I know that it does.

But it’s incumbent upon us to prove it, that they’re wrong.  John 19:30.

Gregory Ratliff:  When Yahshua therefore had received the vinegar

Dr. Kinley:  Now this has been drawn out now from this supper and He’s out there now to be crucified.  Now when He had received the vinegar…  What?

Gregory Ratliff:  He said

Dr. Kinley:  He said

Gregory Ratliff:  It is finished

Dr. Kinley:  It is finished

Gregory Ratliff:  And he bowed his head

Dr. Kinley:  And he bowed his head

Gregory Ratliff:  And expired

Dr. Kinley:  And expired and gave up the ghost.  It is finished.  What, what is finished?  Now if He finished something there, that means that was the end of it.  And He couldn’t be continuing to do something that He had finished.  Now what we wanna do is find out what He finished.  John 3:14, Matthew, pardon me, Matthew 3:14.  I want you to follow me down close.  And I’m.., now what I’m trying to show you is this, the world is messed up on this.  They don’t know what the.., they don’t know what it’s all about.  They don’t know nothing about it.  They don’t know a thing about what Yahshua the Messiah was doing.  Ambassador College, Roman Catholic and Protestants, they don’t know nothing about it.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  Then cometh Yahshua

Dr. Kinley:  Then cometh Yahshua

Dr. Harris:  From Galilee

Dr. Kinley:  From Galilee

Dr. Harris:  To Jordan unto John

Dr. Kinley:  To Jordan unto John

Dr. Harris:  To be baptized of him

Dr. Kinley:  To be baptized of him

Dr. Harris:  But John forbade him saying

Dr. Kinley:  but John forbade him saying.  Now you pay attention, John forbade him saying

Dr. Harris:  I have need to be baptized of thee

Dr. Kinley:  I have need to be baptized of thee.  Just a minute.  Now John was filled with the Holy Spirit from his mother’s womb.  And yet he said, I have need to be baptized of Thee.  And he was…, Yahshua was the personification of the Holy Spirit.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  And comest thou to me.

Dr. Kinley:  And then you come to me.

Dr. Harris:  And Yahshua answering

Dr. Kinley:  And Yahshua, now pay attention now.  Now I’m trying to tell you and show you what is finished.  See the point?  And Yahshua said what?

Dr. Harris:  Said unto him.  Permit it…

Dr. Kinley:  And Yahshua said unto him.  Unto John the Baptist.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  Permit it to be so now

Dr. Kinley:  Permit it to be so now

Dr. Harris:  For thus it becometh us

Dr. Kinley:  For thus it becometh us

Dr. Harris:  To fulfill all righteousness

Dr. Kinley:  To fulfill.  You got the word.  Please somebody right it up there on that board:  to fulfill all righteousness.  Now He was three and a half years in His ministry.  Now here’s the, here’s the ushering into His ministry.  And He’s telling John, now it behooves us, not to institute nothing.  Now Christianity says as this magazine says here that He instituted.  And then they quote over here where we read at about the Lord’s Supper.  They quote the same thing that we quote in this school.  They are reading the same book, reading the same thing, but inserting that He’s instituting.  Just contrary and backwards to what He said Himself.  You follow?  Alright.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  5th chapter of Matthew.

Dr. Kinley:  Just a minute.  Now you got the word fulfill there.  Now He’s entering into His ministry, it said, thus it behooves them to fulfill.  To fulfill what doc?

Dr. Harris:  All righteousness.

Dr. Kinley:  All righteousness.  And then what?

Dr. Harris:  Then he permitted him.

Dr. Kinley:  Then he permitted him.  John baptized Him.  Read on.

Dr. Harris:  Yahshua when he was immersed

Dr. Kinley:  Yahshua when he was immersed

Dr. Harris:  Went up straight way out of the water

Dr. Kinley:  Went up straight way out of the water

Dr. Harris:  And lo, the heavens were opened unto him

Dr. Kinley:  And lo, the heavens were opened unto him

Dr. Harris:  And he saw the spirit of Yahweh descending like a dove and lighting upon him

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right.  John saw the spirit like a dove descending upon Him.  And He went straight way up out of the water.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  And lo a voice from heaven saying

Dr. Kinley:  lo a voice from heaven

Dr. Harris:  This is my beloved son

Dr. Kinley:  This is my beloved son

Dr. Harris:  In whom I am well pleased

Dr. Kinley:  In whom I am well pleased.  What else?

Dr. Harris:  Then was Yahshua led up of the spirit into the wilderness

Dr. Kinley:  Then.  Now I want you to see that, so that, so you’ll know what’s going on.  So you’ll get out of that perplexed state of stupidity and colossal ignorance which these people have been teaching you all over the world.  Now he said when He was baptized, He went straight way.  Right?  And then what?  Into…  Where did He go?

Student:  Into the wilderness.

Dr. Kinley:  Into the wilderness.  Read on.  Right there in Matthew.

Dr. Harris:  Then was Yahshua led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the adversary

Dr. Kinley:  To be tempted of the adversary.

Dr. Harris:  And after he had fasted forty days and forty nights

Dr. Kinley:  And after he had fasted forty days and forty nights

Dr. Harris:  He was hungred

Dr. Kinley:  He was hungry.

Dr. Harris:  And then the tempter came to him and said

Dr. Kinley:  And then the tempter came to him

Dr. Harris:  If thou be the son of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  Now if thou be the son of Yahweh.  If.  Thou be the son of Yahweh.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  Command that these stones be made bread

Dr. Kinley:  Now I never seen a preacher in my life that knew anything about them stones.  I ain’t never read no articles, and all the theological, theological commentaries that I ever read but everybody reads that, just like Dr. Harris is reading it.  Now look, just wanna show you so that you can see what’s going on.  Now go back to the first of what you just read there, about John I’m talking, the third chapter of Matthew, where He comes.

Dr. Harris:  Then cometh Yahshua from Galilee to Jordan

Dr. Kinley:  Now then cometh Yahshua from Galilee

Dr. Harris:  To Jordan

Dr. Kinley:  To Jordan.  Now just a minute.  Nazareth is in Galilee, now that’s geographically speaking.  And His parents, so called, Joseph and Mary, foster parents. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) He ate that passover in Nazareth of Galilee with His parents.  And listen folks, that was the last supper that He ate with His parents.  That wasn’t the last one that He ate with His disciples, I said with His parents.  Never did eat no more with them.  Now do you remember that they used to go up to Jerusalem and eat the passover.  And He got lost, they lost Him rather.  And He was up there in the temple arguing with the doctors and the lawyers.  What you need to do is know something about what you’re reading.  Now listen at what I’m gonna say here.  He ate that passover with His foster parents in Nazareth of Galilee.  And when he came down from Nazareth, they said, can any good thing come out of Nazareth.  They never heard of any good thing that would come out of Nazareth.

Now, He came on down, now listen to what I’m going say, to where Moses and them.., had.., Moses had expired before they.., after they had tarried forty years in the wilderness.  And then Joshua takes them up and the River Jordan parted.  Now listen at what I’m saying now.  I’m telling you why He had to come from Nazareth in Galilee down the river Jordan to a specific spot where He had to be baptized.  The question’s why is that?  Was because they took twelve stones out of the river Jordan.  Here’s a picture here showing it.  And they builded an altar where Joshua and the Children of Israel passed and went into the wilderness of Judea after the decease of Moses, thirty three days after.  And they took these 12 stones out of the river and they builded an altar, marking the place now where the children of Israel passed over the Jordan River.  Now those are the stones that the devil said to Him, now if you be the Son of Yahweh command these stones to be made bread.  But when they’re reading it, they don’t know nothing about it.  The stones.  They can’t tell you nothing about it.  Now then you noticed that He went into the wilderness after He was baptized.  And the spirit of Yahweh descended upon Him.  Right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now look.  And that cloud overshadowed Him there when He was baptized and then that voice come from heaven.  Now you look right back here and you see the cloud here.  And that angel was in that cloud.  And that voice.  Now this is nothing else but a repeat of it.  That’s what He’s telling John, suffer it to be so now because it becomes us to fulfill.  So then they, after they ate that passover, eating it in Nazareth, then three days to the Red Sea, then three days from Nazareth down to where John baptized Him at.  Them’s fulfilling.

Now then Ambassador College don’t know nothing about it.  And then they say if He had been here, He would have been doing the same thing; which means that they don’t know what He was doing.  He couldn’t do the same thing.  If it been fulfilled and finished everything, then He couldn’t continue to do it or else He would have been a liar by saying He’s fulfilling.

Now He went into the wilderness.  That’s the reason I had you read the whole article there.  And stayed there forty days and forty nights, fasting.  Well then Joshua had passed over the River Jordan here and went into the Wilderness of Judea, He fasted, I mean back here with the Children of Israel.  He told them to prepare victuals for themselves.  Didn’t say a thing about Himself.  And there He was in the wilderness, fulfilling, forty days and forty nights.

Now listen here.  Listen at this one now, so you don’t get lost.  All during that forty years, it had rained down manna.  But now when they picked up the ark of the covenant with Aaron’s rod in it, the ten commandments, listen, and the pot that had the manna.  The priest went to the brink of the river, the waters divided there, stood up in a heap.  And then they went on cross there.  The manna ceased.  Rained down no more bread.  The manna ceased.  What did they put the manna in the ark of the covenant for?  They were carrying it back from where it had come from.  Jerusalem was a type of heaven above, or the other side of the river was a type of where the manna had come from.  Aaron’s rod that budded in the ark of the covenant, it was a type of that stick or the rod of iron that would rule all nations, the rule of authority from heaven, and they’re carrying it back.  The tables of stone that contained the commandments that was given to them from heaven or from the cloud, they’re carrying it back to where it come from.

Well why are they doing that?  Now when Yahshua comes along, He’s got to fulfill it.  Now here’s Moses and Aaron, they come up here.  Oh, I’m telling you it’s something else.  Then if Moses and Aaron is along here and Yahshua is along here when they come up out of Egypt; which a lotta people don’t even know that Yahshua was along.  Now listen at what I’m gonna say.  Then when they got to the Red Sea, the waters divided.  They went through on dry land.  They never got wet.  The book, the 10th chapter of first Corinthians, now listen, said they were baptized in the cloud and in the sea, so that they went through on dry land, they never got wet.

Now what we read about the passover there, in the 13th chapter of John, and it speaks about after supper.  He got up and washed the disciples feet.  And while He was washing their feet, He said to them about the washing of the feet.  Peter spoke up and he said, ye won’t wash ‘em, and he said Yahshua wouldn’t wash his feet.  And so he said, if I wash thee not, you have no part with me.

Now in this book, I’m not gonna take the time to have it read, they said that foot washing was instituted by Jesus Christ.  It was not back under the law, in this book.  Could you find that right quick in this book, Dr. Gross, as you read it?  In the, you, you, you go on with that.  Now they said that the passover, it wasn’t, it wasn’t no washing feet at all back there.

Now if you notice, now pay attention, when they went on through here, I told you they didn’t get wet here.  But when they got into this mountain, now listen forty seven days from crossing over here to the mount, Sinai I’m talking about.  Now this is the first trip of Moses in the Mount Sinai.  He told him, told Moses to speak to the Children of Israel and give them three days, you got some water now, to clean up, to wash their, their, their clothes and so forth and so on and then themselves.  Give ‘em three days to wash up and clean up and gather up around the mountain and then He would speak to ‘em.  They got wet that time.  Now here’s the passover, the blood, the lamb, the unleavened bread and bitter herbs, three days in the Red Sea, then after they crossed over the Red Sea, forty seven days to the mountain.  And on the fiftieth day from the mount, after they crossed through Red Sea, 50 days, Three, forty seven and then the three days to clean up that makes 50 days after they come through and 53 days from the Red Sea and then Yahweh spoke to ‘em from the mount.  That washing up, that cleaning up, that was physical sanctivity insurance.

Now, here is the, here is the tabernacle.  Nine months after, it was.., be nine months too before it was set up.  Now try to pay attention.  Try to learn something.  You are well blessed.  I mean you are sure enough blessed to know something.  Now then, here you have the blood on the altar correlating and corresponding to the Passover where the sacrifices was offered up.  Then you went to the Red Sea.  You got blood and then you got water.  And you got the spirit in the cloud.  Then here on the altar, entering into the tabernacle, then you have the laver and water in the laver.  Now listen, listen now, that water.., Moses brought Aaron and his brother that.., Aaron and his sons.  Pay attention now.

Now the reason why I’m telling you to pay attention, I’m showing you where he don’t know a thing about what he’s talking about, in this book.  He don’t even have a faint glimmer or no kind of an idea about it.  And Moses brought them to the door of tabernacle and washed their feet, body, are you listening, and then put on them the garments of the priest.  Then took holy anointing oil and poured it on Aaron’s head and them which was symbolical of the Holy Spirit.

Now here comes along Yahshua the Messiah fulfilling all of it.  I didn’t say instituting, you heard me, I said fulfilling; in other words, He was just repeating what was done back here, in fulfillment.  And when He got to the end of it, He said, it’s finished.  See that?  Now that leaves the Roman Catholics and Protestants in a jam.  And in that article there, he.., that man is talking about what Jesus said and done in the New Testament and that is not the New Testament.  And he’s saying that the New Testament’s teaching…  it is not New Testament teaching.  The New Testament’s not written with pen and ink, and it’s not written in no book like that, and it’s not written in tables of stone.

Now He rose up from that supper and He begin to wash His disciples’ feet and they complained, Peter complained about Him washing.  And he said, if I don’t wash you, you won’t have no parts with Me, then he suffered Him.  Now they said it’s not.., didn’t have no relation to the Old Testament at all and Jesus instituted here in the 13th chapter of John.  Now He’s fulfilling the law as He said He was doing.  Then he’s got to wash the disciples’ feet at the laver.  Then go on ahead and receive the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost.  Do you see that now?  They tarried forty years in here, in the wilderness.  He was in the wilderness how long?

Student Body:  Forty days.

Dr. Kinley:  Just a child, just any child that you have to hold almost in your arms there…  I’ve have ‘em sit, sitting right here and tell them, now just palparrot after me.  How long was He in the wilderness?  When I say forty, you say forty.  I asked you a question, how long did He tarry on earth before He ascended?  You just, he’s knows now to say forty.  Not wrong either.  Now that’s knowing what it’s all about.  What’s that mean?  That means that it is proving, listen at these words, it’s proving the existence of Yahweh and His eternal purpose.  That’s Him proving it Himself.  Proving it with, listen now at these words, with unerring accuracy, absolute infallibility.  See that?  When it come to using words, we can put ‘em on down there.  There’s no question about that.  Of the scriptures.  And I do mean polytechnically so. Tell you why He couldn’t do anything other than fulfill.  Why?  Because it was instituted back here in the realm of eternity.  Yahweh declared the end from the beginning and then proceeded to fulfill it.  He couldn’t institute nothing.  Did you find that article?

Dr. Harris:  Yes sir.  Christ institutes the New Testament passover.  Now in his…

Dr. Kinley:  Now just a minute.  Now that’s stupid.  Now that’s just as stupid as it can be. Christ institutes the New Testament passover.  Now listen here.  At this time, He’s under the law.  Better read.  Galatians 4:4.

Gregory Ratliff:  But when the fullness of time was come

Dr. Kinley:  But when the fullness of time was come.  Now this is His birth.

Gregory Ratliff:  Yahweh sent forth his son

Dr. Kinley:  Yahweh sent forth his son

Gregory Ratliff:  Made of a woman

Dr. Kinley:  Made of a woman

Gregory Ratliff:  Made under the law

Dr. Kinley:  Now oh oh.  Made under the law.  For what purpose?

Gregory Ratliff:  To redeem them that were under the law

Dr. Kinley:  To redeem them that were under the law

Gregory Ratliff:  That we might receive the adoption of sons

Dr. Kinley:  That we might receive the adoption of sons.  Now you see, He was under the law.  The law had to stay there until it was fulfilled.  He was born under the law, lived under the law, and died under and according to the law.  Resurrected under the law, ascended into to heaven under the law.  And ten days after His ascension, the Holy Spirit was poured out.  Now listen, that was the first day, about 9 o’clock in the morning, of this present age in which we live.  And now we’re not under that law.  What law?  Don’t want you to mess that up either.  The law according to the second chapter of Ephesians.  The law, listen now, contained in ordinances.  Then what other law could there be?  The Law of the Spirit of Life which is in Yahshua the Messiah, and that’s what brought all things into existence.  When the law spoke, or when Yahweh spoke, who is Law, then what happened?  When He spoke what happened?  The sign followed, the creation come into existence.  Alright, read Dr. Harris.  Now we’re reading about this… what he said about this foot washing business.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  Now in his very last passover

Dr. Kinley:  Now in his last…  Now you hear that?  See how stupid.  Now I told you about two last ones.  I told you about the last one He ate with His.., Mary and Joseph back there in Nazareth of Galilee.  And this other one here that you’re talking about, He ate with His disciples.  They don’t know…  Are you listening?  Now there weren’t no Gentiles there.  There wasn’t none at the first one, passover.  And if there wasn’t none at the first one, there couldn’t be none at the last one.  So He ate it with His twelve disciples.


Dr. Kinley:  Now are you listening?  Now we’re up to this pass… this, this, this foot washing business, and this passover.  Alright, read doc.

Dr. Harris:  Now on his very last passover, on the very evening of his murder, Jesus left some definite and specific commands.  Notice them in John the 13th chapter.  Quote, and supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray him.  Jesus knowing that the father had given all things into his hands and that he was come from God and went to God, he rises from supper and laid aside his garments and took a towel and girded himself.  After that he poured the water into a basin and began to wash the disciples’ feet and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.  Notice: This ceremony of the washing of the feet of the disciples has nothing whatsoever to do with the Old Testament observance of the passover.  It was being instituted for the first time by Jesus Christ himself.

Dr. Kinley:  Now would you just read there… (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now you see that?  Now that’s bad.  Now that’s bad.  Now He had to wash His disciples’ feet because Moses brought Aaron to the laver and washed him.  Now on this chart here, you have the passover supper after the death, burial, and resurrection, and ascension and ten days after that; in other words, you have the crucifixion, the burial, the resurrection on the third day, tarried forty days and forty nights.  Then He ascended into heaven from the Mount of Olives.  Ten days after that, well I should say this, now He ascended into heaven on a cloud.  Now listen now at what I’m gonna say.  And then He sit down at the right hand of the Father in heaven.  That’s what your Book says.  And if you don’t think it’s says that, well I will read it.  Now I wanna show you Luther why that is.  Getting up to date, up to this day.  Well what’s the date today anyhow?

Student Body:  the 20th

Dr. Kinley:  Today’s the 20th.

Student:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  This morning.  Take it on back here in the garden.  You come to class, and.., I’m just showing you folks, we know what we’re talking about.  Yahweh is real.  He’s nothing to play with.  These folks have never understood nothing about it.  Now here it is back here in the Garden of Eden.  You’ll find that He waited til the cool of the day to drive that first Adam out of the Garden; in other words, the sun was going down.  I’m mean the ethereal sun in the heavens was going down and this son here, he’s going on down to death, he’s been expulsated from the Garden.  Now these sons come down together.  Now when He’s hanging out here on the cross, the sun went on down at noon day.  I mean the scriptures says that.  Everything I’m saying to you, jot and tittle, is in the scriptures.  If you don’t think it’s there, stick up your finger or stick up your hand and I’ll have it read.  Everything.  Got the foot washing and every.., anything you think, I’ll read, we definitely will read it to you, won’t we Fred?

Fred Allen, Jr.:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  About the sun going down at noon day.  Now look, here they are they’re coming down now together; that is to say he died.  And that sun in the sky and this son here coming down together.  Then that means this, that they got to come up together.  See the sun coming up here and there He is resurrecting from the dead.

Now we talked about coming up to date.  Now in Matthew there it speaks of these, these men went up there, back up there to the Sanhedrin council and told ‘em that He had resurrected from the dead just like He said.  They didn’t want that to get out less their last error would be worse than the first.  See that now?  Are you following me now?  Now they said, listen, they said His disciples come and stole Him away.  Now what I’m doing is bringing it up to date.  I mean this day.  I understand this is the 20th of September, AD 70, 1974.  Now then, they said His disciples come and stole Him away while those men at the tomb slept.  That would have been a death penalty right there.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  But they bribed ‘em and give ‘em money to go out and say that, that very thing.  Now look, you remember I said and I showed you in this plate how He ascended from the Mount of Olives and went on into heaven itself.  That is a vision.  That is not a physical man standing in cloud, you know better than that.  Now look, I showed you where they went down together.  Showed you back there in the Garden of Eden and how he was planted in Joseph’s new tomb.  Now listen, and very early in the morning, as it begin to dawn toward the first day of the week, He resurrected from the dead.  Now what I’m talking about is the sun in the ethereal heavens.  It’s coming up.  And this One here on earth is coming up out of Joseph’s new tomb, resurrecting from the dead.

Then He tarried forty days, or I should say this, after His resurrection, reaching clear on back to Adam, after His resurrection, the Books says in Matthew 27:52, many of them that slept, saints, some of you.., some books have it as the King James version, but says sons that slept in the dust of the earth, rose and went on into Jerusalem.  And you have it in the background right here.  And they were seen of many.  Therefore He said He was the Resurrection and the Life.  This is proof for and proof positive that He is the Resurrection.  After His resurrection, are, are you listening?  You remember I went over and set down in the chair and I said that He ascended into heaven on a cloud?  And that He had sit down at the right hand of the Father in heaven?  Remember, I said that?  And I talked about getting it up to date; your Sun in the ethereal heavens, rose this morning.  That’s what brought about day, and it went on and reached it’s zenith in the sky and then it set this evening.  So that sun rose and it set, just like the Son of Yahweh rose and set down at the right hand of the Father in heaven.  Now that’s up to date folks.  September the 20th.  It happened this morning that the sun rose and it happened this evening that it set.  How about that?

Now as the high priest would go into the Holy Place, you take, you take that laver up and you take that censer, take a coal off of the altar and he would put in that censer and that censer would form, here it is here, a cloud or smoke.  And he would enter in on the 10th day of October into the Most Holy Place, right in that cloud on that day.  And there He would appear.  And throw that blood toward the mercy seat seven times.  Is that right?  On the Day of Atonement.

Now, this is what we’re talking about.  Now He washed His disciples feet.  Now I want you to go over to the first chapter of John and read the first verse.

Dr. Harris:  In the beginning was

Dr. Kinley:  In the beginning

Dr. Harris:  Was the word

Dr. Kinley:  Was the word

Dr. Harris:  And the word was with Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  And the word was with Yahweh

Dr. Harris:  And the word was Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  And the word was Yahweh.  18th verse.

Dr. Harris:  And the word was made flesh

Dr. Kinley:  Listen now, now listen. And the word was made flesh. And what?

Dr. Harris:  And dwelt among us

Dr. Kinley:  And dwelt among us

Dr. Harris:  And we beheld his glory

Dr. Kinley:  And we beheld his glory

Dr. Harris:  The glory of the only begotten of the father

Dr. Kinley:  The glory of the only begotten of the father

Dr. Harris:  Full of grace and truth

Dr. Kinley:  Full of grace and truth.  Now look, this is the Word made flesh, washing the disciples feet in fulfillment of Moses washing Aaron and them at the laver after the supper.  And Peter spoke up and said, He wouldn’t, that He wouldn’t wash his feet.  And listen now, get this one straight.  He said there in that 13th chapter of John, He said to His disciples, says, you don’t know what I’m doing now, but you shall know hereafter.  Titus 3:5.

Dr. Harris:  Not by works of righteousness

Dr. Kinley:  Not by works of righteousness

Dr. Harris:  Which we have done

Dr. Kinley:  Which we have done

Dr. Harris:  But according to his mercy

Dr. Kinley:  But according to his mercy

Dr. Harris:  He saved us

Dr. Kinley:  He saved us

Dr. Harris:  By the washing of regeneration

Dr. Kinley:  Now this was the Savior, this was the Word made flesh that was washing their feet.  They did not know that was the regeneration, washing of regeneration.  And that’s what has to happen to you.  You have to be washed by the Word.  What did you say about regeneration there?  The washing of regeneration.

Dr. Harris:  According to his mercy, he saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing


Dr. Kinley:  … conscience is gonna condemn you.  But I’m here to tell you that everything that you do that is wrong that your conscience condemn you and Yahweh is far greater than your conscience.  You’re gonna meet it again.  And don’t you think for one minute that it’s covered up and hid.  We know that we got some people that say, ‘well we ain’t walking after the flesh.’  Well we’re not, but that’s what they’re doing is walking after the flesh, and using what is taught here or the scriptures as a cloak of maliciousness; in other words, to justify them in what they’re doing.  Now I’ll tell you some of ‘em:  swapping wives, husbands raising hell with his wife, and the wive raising hell with her husband about running round after some man or some woman.  You can’t do that, not with what I’m talking about.  If you have in you, you can’t do that, what I’m talking about.  And there will be no swapping wives.  Yahshua the Messiah, He didn’t swap no wife.  Ephesians 5:22.

Dr. Harris:  Wives

Dr. Kinley:  Wives

Dr. Harris:  Submit yourselves unto your husbands

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen.  Now listen, doc, if you didn’t have a wife, why in the hell are saying wife.  Every once in a while I have to get rough talking about this thing.  And then look, if you gonna judge somebody by the natural things, I know there’s a lot of you didn’t know that or don’t know what I’m fixing to say now.  I know one that’s been in the school around twenty or more years before he ever found out about it.

When the Children of Israel come back from Babylonian captivity under Nehemiah and Ezra.  They had been in captivity down there 70 years.  And a part of them had been down there 111 years before the others went down, the two tribes.  And they went down there and married strange women.  That was under the law, now.  And they had to put them wives away.  Now under the law, just to show you how technical it is, under the law, now if you don’t believe what I’m saying, hold up your hand, cause I, we got a Bible.  We will read it.  Under the law, they couldn’t even marry out of their respective tribes to say nothing about out of their nationality.  Well somebody might say, ‘well what’s that all about?’  To keep the inheritance in the family.  But now they’re running around just grabbing up this woman or that man and going on you call yourselves living, ‘we ain’t living under the law now,’ and justifying themselves and their ways of doing it.  Now let me tell you something.  I’ll read this if you say so.  And Paul said, if, now if you were charged with having a wife, then don’t let the husband put her away; and likewise, the wife with her husband.  Now, he’s saying there, husbands love your wives.  Now we’re still talking about Him washing the disciples’ feet.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands

Dr. Kinley:  Wives, wives, wives submit yourself unto your own husband

Dr. Harris:  As unto the Messiah

Dr. Kinley:  As.., ‘now we ain’t gonna do that.  What, what you doing writing something like that in a book.  We ain’t gonna do it.  I got on my own pants.  I’m the boss around here.’  Woman, she say, ‘yeah, I got on the skirt too.  And I’m the wife.  I was given to you for a help mate.  I’m just helping you.’  And all these arguments and things.  Alright, read on.  Wives submit yourselves unto the husband as unto Yahweh.  I wouldn’t ask you to hold up your hand how many of you are doing that, so don’t don’t… (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) No, don’t do nothing like that.  Put your hands down.  Don’t get excited, I ain’t gonna ask you. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Alright, read on.

Dr. Harris:  For the husband is the head of the wife

Dr. Kinley:  Now the husband is the head of the wife

Dr. Harris:  Even as the Messiah is the head of the assembly

Dr. Kinley:  Even as the Messiah is the head of the assembly

Dr. Harris:  And he is the savior of the body

Dr. Kinley:  Now he is the savior of the body

Dr. Harris:  Therefore as the assembly is subject unto the Messiah

Dr. Kinley:  Uh huh

Dr. Harris:  So let the wives be to their own husbands in everything

Dr. Kinley:  Did you read there about husbands love your wives as the Messiah also loved the church?

Dr. Harris:  Husbands, love your wives, even as the Messiah also loved the church and gave himself for it.  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

Dr. Kinley:  Now you, I want you to see that now.  That was the Word, the washing of the water by the Word made flesh.  And that was under the law back here and he just said it was instituted by Christ, it wasn’t under the law.  Now if you want me to read where Moses brought him up there to the tabernacle and washed him and put the garments on him and poured oil on their head, I’ll read it.  You think it ain’t in here.  As I said when I got up here, I didn’t wanna be up here all, all this, all this…  I didn’t want to take up this whole class, but this is a continuation of Wednesday night in showing you how this 53 million dollars for this bunch of junk, in open rebellion and dispute the Bible.  Don’t know thing the first about it.  Now, husbands love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for it that He might sanctify and cleanse it by the washing of the water by the word, that He might present it unto Himself not having spot or wrinkle, but that it should be holy and without blame.  That, is that almost something like that?

Student Body:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  Now skip on down to the last few verses.  Somebody might have misunderstood that.

Dr. Harris:  This is a great mystery

Dr. Kinley:  Now wait a minute.  See how you missed it?  Clean clear, you didn’t realize that you and your wife was a type of Yahshua the Messiah and His bride, and you can’t be fumbling around.  And I’ll have you to know this, I want you to know this, every sin that a man or a woman commits is without the body.  You don’t commit sin with your body.  It’s in the mind, it’s in the heart.  It even got around to the place where Yahshua the Messiah said, I think it’s about the 19th chapter of Matthew where he said it was.., some were people saying, ‘well I never committed adultery with no woman.’  And he said, whosoever looks on a woman to lust after in his heart committeth adultery already.  And you walking around talking about the flesh, just doing anything that you can do, not realizing that that’s a satanic spirit in you got you running around here like that and you’re gonna catch hell too.  I mean that you’re gonna, you’re gonna catch it in the judgement about that.  I don’t want you to, I don’t want to be thinking nothing like that, That stupidity has got to go.  It’s incumbent upon us to tell you the truth, to save your soul, if possible.  Alright.  This is a great mystery.

Dr. Harris:  But I speak concerning the Messiah and the church

Dr. Kinley:  But I speak concerning the Messiah and the Church that He washed and sanctified it that He might present it unto Himself, washing by the water by the Word.  You don’t know what I’m doing now but you shall now hereafter for the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit.  Now you see that man don’t know a thing about what he’s talking about.  You see that now?  Said Christ instituted.  Now we had John, Matthew 3:14 read and we showed you about how He come from Nazareth.  Now here we got Him here on this chart here, we got Him.., look like this is out of context, got Him crucified before He’s baptized.  You have to hold your blood line, and then the water line and your forty line.  Now listen.  How long was he in the garden, Adam in the garden?

Student Body:  40 days

Dr. Kinley:  40 days and 40 nights.  Right there somebody says, ‘now I don’t believe that.’  Somebody come up here and put these figures down on the board.  She read, Dr. Kim Clark, she read in the 26th chapter of Matthew about His hour had come.  Now showing.., I’m talking about His hour had come.  Now remember with Yahweh, one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as one day.  See that?  Now, if that be the case then, then if His hour had come, we’re trying to find out now how long that hour was with Him.  Now remember He’s fulfilling.  He’s fulfilling.  Now if he’s fulfilling, now you remember He was three and a half years in His ministry.  Now if He’s three and a half years in His ministry, that three and a half years broken down to one day for a year would be how long?  Three and a half years would be how long?  Forty-two months or 1260 years or one thousand two hundred and sixty years.  Three and a half years.  That’s the 42 months that you got over there.  So then that being the case, His hour had come, and those thousand years expired.  Now here you got one thousand.

Fred Allen, Jr.:  42 hours in the day, 1000 gives you 41.6 years.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right. 41.6 years.  Now, He’s fulfilling.  This is one hour.  Now His hour is come that He should suffer.  That’s what, He said that.  Then after He did finish, He went on out into the Garden of Gethsemane.  And out there in the Garden of Gethsemane…  Now these people around.., the church folks, they never associated the Garden of Gethsemane with the Garden of Eden.  Now He’s out there that night in that Garden.  So now Adam, he’s been driven out here by the angel.  Gabriel.  Somebody says, ‘I don’t see anything about no Gabriel in there, he’s an archangel.’  And he was one that did all of the fighting, the other one was a messenger.  He meant business when he come out of that garden with that flaming sword.  That’s a fight.  Alright, now then, here’s the.., associating the Garden of Eden and just one hour Adam was in there; and then in order to fulfill it, He’s out there and His hour has come.  This is Yahweh incarnated in a body.  Now the devil refused to leave from out there in the garden.  So then Judas negotiated with them for thirty pieces of silver.  And He told His disciples to tarry here while I go yonder.  They mustn’t go in there.  While I go yonder and pray.  Now if you take that same line, we’ll carry that line right on over, and you get Him right in here praying.  While they were praying around the tabernacle, the high priest was in here at the altar of incense praying.  They couldn’t go in there.

And now in order to fulfill it, He just goes into the Garden of Gethsemane just like he did here.  He’s in here for one hour, just like he’s in here for forty days and His hour is come.  In that day Yahweh…  Adam would live 930 years and yet he died in his, in his conscience, see that one day or that one thousand years he was dead.  See how it is?

Now listen folks.  Now these preachers they can’t put these things together like this.  They don’t know the story.  They don’t know what they’re talking about.  And you see that by these articles they’re printing here.  And then every time one of ‘em gets on TV, he doesn’t know anything at all about what it’s all about.  And on top of all of that, they don’t know the name.  Now they’ve gotten around to the place, where many Bibles being written and the names are being put back in the Bible.  Now your Holy Name Bible was the first Bible in this century come out in 1963.  The Jerusalem Bible, I think it come out in ’67.  And we have another at the house, it come out in ’70 with these names in them.  They’re putting these names back in the Bible.  Now what has happened is this:  we’re sending world, this, this teaching all over the world.  And they’re trying to sneak back in.

And then some of ‘em, like Billy Graham and Rex Humbard and them, they, they won’t use these names.  They’re too stubborn to do that, not realizing that they’re gonna have to acknowledge ‘em.  They’re gonna have to do it, Billy Graham and everybody else.  And I sent Billy Graham a book just like.., and he sent it back.  Then we took the same book and sent it to his wife, we haven’t got it back yet.  And Billy out there in Anaheim Stadium offering to pay anybody one thousand dollars, any minister that could show his wife the necessity of her being baptized in water and getting her to accept it.  Now Billy is a Baptist, and he can’t convince his wife of nothing.

Now look folks, let me wind this up real quick and get on down from up here cause I do want you to see what I’m talking about.  Now you notice I got from the passover to the water and up to the Red, up to, up, up to the Red Sea and up here into, through the Wilderness of Sin and all up in here to the Wilderness of Sinai and from Mount Sinai, the mount of Elohim, and they washed up, that was his first trip up in the mount.  Now try to pay attention now.  Try to pay attention.  You have him here, that’s equivalent to the.., see how it’s put on the water line here with Him and how the cloud overshadowed it, you got to also keep the cloud there.  Then He’s got to ascend on a cloud, because the cloud carried them on in there, and crossed the River Jordan.

Now folks listen, I’m moving on now.  The fifth chapter of Matthew.  Now remember, we, we, we showed you this first trip up there and He told him to tell them to clean up and wash up.  And remember, that He told John to suffer it to be so now because it behooves Him to fulfil all righteousness.  Now Ted Garner Armstrong and the others are calling this the New Testament which it is not.  A testament is a force after men are dead and it had to be sealed with.., without the shedding blood there will be no remission of sins.  Now, now listen and pay attention.  The fifth chapter and the first verse.

Dr. Harris:  And seeing the multitudes

Dr. Kinley:  Now look, there was 600,503.  Is that right?


Dr. Kinley:  603,550.  Did I get it right that time?  Not counting the woman and the children that followed Moses and them up out of the wilderness.  And they gathered up around the mount.  And I told you about Him speaking and giving them the commandments from the mountain.  Now look.  Now then Yahshua the Messiah has got to, has got to fulfill this.  So and seeing the multitudes.  Now this is after He’s been baptized in the River Jordan and then he’s gone on in here and He’s…, makes them His disciples, and they’re following Him on.  And there’s a great multitude of people ____, there’s the Pharisees and Sadducees and Scribes ____ ____.  Now they all wanna jump on me.  And we’ve got letters where they want.., my life has been threatened for telling you these things.  Alright, now seeing the multitude.., this is in fulfillment of this, seeing this great multitude come out of here.  We even went so far as to take the number of ‘em.  Alright, read on.

Dr. Harris:  He went up into a mountain

Dr. Kinley:  Now he’d have to go up in this mountain.  Went up into a mountain.  And then what?

Dr. Harris:  And when he was set

Dr. Kinley:  And when he was set.  Not in this mountain now but this is a fulfillment of it.  And when the cloud was set, and when he was set.  Then what?

Dr. Harris:  His disciples came unto him

Dr. Kinley:  You see that, here they come.  Alright read.

Dr. Harris:  And he opened his mouth and taught them saying

Dr. Kinley:  And he opened his mouth and he taught them saying.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  Blessed are the poor in spirit

Dr. Kinley:  and on down.  He talked about the law there.  Now skip on down.

Dr. Harris:  17th verse

Dr. Kinley:  17th verse

Dr. Harris:  Think not that I am come to destroy

Dr. Kinley:  Now folks, look up here.  In contradiction to what this book has said, we’re not gonna let you loose sight of these things.  We’re not gonna let you come down here and then go away from here stupid.  Now then when He was set, He had to.., in order to fulfill this, He had to go up in that mount and sit down and speak to that mountain in order to fulfill this back here, where Yahweh spoke from, to Israel from that mountain.  You see that now?  Now that’s a fulfillment.  Read on.

Dr. Harris:  Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets

Dr. Kinley:  Don’t think that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets

Dr. Harris:  I am not come to destroy

Dr. Kinley:  I am not come to destroy

Dr. Harris:  But to fulfill

Dr. Kinley:  Now He could have never fulfilled it if by going up into that mountain, and making sure.., He could not have never fulfilled this unless He set up in that mountain.  And that’s what…  Do you see?  Do you see what He’s doing?  I wanna know if anybody in here can’t see that, what He’s doing.  He’s fulfilling.  And He said to ‘em, now get this straight.  Now Ted Garner said foot washing was not back there in Old Covenant.  He said that it was instituted by Christ.  Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen folks, if you’d just come to this chart right here, I’ve even went so far as to put down here so that you, so that you could correlate it.  Wrote the verse down on here, you can just take a pencil and pad and come up here and look right at this and put these verses down and you can see the correlation of it.  Now, and he said to them.  Now listen, get this straight.  He said foot washing was instituted by Christ.  He can’t institute nothing because He’s got to fulfill everything that was…  Listen, and went so far as to say that He had to fulfill it, every jot and every tittle of it.  Couldn’t do anything that wasn’t expressed in the law and the prophets.  Do you see that now?  Can you see that that man don’t know what he’s talking about?  Ambassador College with 53 million dollars.  Some there’s, some of these folks, they don’t wanna even accept what we are, our stuff and then when they do take it they can get put out of, they can get out of it to try to make somebody think that they know something and write up some kind of article.  And that that they can’t see, they try to start an argument about it, like this, like you just read there.  Now, then that brings me up to another, now that’s the second time.  Now I got to get the third time.  And that’s this one.  Trans, Mount of Transfiguration.  Read

Dr. Harris:  You want the 17th chapter Matthew?

Dr. Kinley:  17th chapter

Dr. Harris:  And after six days

Dr. Kinley:  And after six days.  I ain’t got time to into all that, just read it doc.

Dr. Harris:   Yahshua taketh Peter, James and John, his brother

Dr. Kinley:  That’s just like, like the 24th chapter of Exodus, says there, the seventy elders, Aaron, Nadab and Abihu.  Now in order to fulfill that, and we’ve got it right over here.  Now, the same here, this is the transfiguration, the ascension, and then here He ascends into the mountain and we just call it the mount, cause what we did is condense it and we got all three things right here in one, just to show you that He had to do these things to fulfill ‘em.  Now read, Dr. Harris,

Dr. Harris:  Taketh Peter, James and John, his brother and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart

Dr. Kinley:  Uh huh.  Apart.

Dr. Harris:  And was transfigured before them

Dr. Kinley:  And transfigured before them.  Transfigured before them.  You see that?  Now that’s the third time in that mountain.  See that now?  And He’s fulfilling, that’s the third time.  See it now?  This one here, where He goes out into the Mount of Olives and ascends from the Mount of Olives, we just have the ascension and all shown right in here.  You have that in the first chapter of the Acts of Apostles.  So that’s the fourth time in a mountain. (THE BELL RINGS) Well, we’ve done it again.  We’ve done it again.  But the thing of it is what I’m trying to show you is, I I’m trying to show you that when these people read what they call the New Testament, they don’t know that Yahshua the Messiah is repeating or doing what was said back here in the law of Moses and in the prophets; in other words, He’s fulfilling this that’s back here in the law and in the prophets.  Now listen, now listen at what I’m gonna say now.  Repeat what you read there in the 16th chapter, the fifth chapter Matthew, that one jot and one tittle shall not pass from the law until it’s all fulfilled.

Dr. Harris:  For verily, verily I say unto to thee, til heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.

Dr. Kinley:  Now read John 19:30.

Dr. Harris:  After he had received the vinegar, he said, it is finished.

Dr. Kinley:  Uh huh.  Now He’s finished fulfilling the law and the prophets during His lifetime.  He’s finished, every jot and every tittle of it that pertained to Him alive and walking around.  Now there was some that was fulfilled afterwards and there is some yet to be fulfilled, and in the ages yet to come, of the purpose of Yahweh.  Now children, the reason why I got up here again tonight…  Now we are right down to the end.  Yahshua said in the 24th chapter of Matthew, except these days be shortened, there wouldn’t be no flesh saved.  Now look, I’m trying to get it over to you, I know how you’re living in your homes.  I know, you can’t fool me.  How the wives and the husbands…  Now look here, I want you to understand what that is.  Now this is what it is.  Yahshua the Messiah said there in the 24th chapter of Matthew…  Dr. Harris would you mind?  Would you please give me a minute, cause this is important.  I wanna, what I wanna show you now is this:  it’s worse now than it’s ever been in the history of the ages.  Everybody’s home and every man and every woman is affected.  And Yahshua said there in the 24th chapter of Matthew.

Dr. Harris:  and the 21st verse

Dr. Kinley:  and the 21st verse

Dr. Harris:  For then shall be great tribulation

Dr. Kinley:  Then shall, then shall be great tribulation

Dr. Harris:  Such as was not since the beginning of the world

Dr. Kinley:  Since there has not been since the beginning of the world

Dr. Harris:  To this time

Dr. Kinley:  Until this time

Dr. Harris:  No, nor ever shall be

Dr. Kinley:  No, or ever shall be.  I told you last week and it’s no secret about the Roman Catholics have murdered millions.  Protestants have murdered millions.  And in your home, take this home with you children, in your home, Yahweh is permitting the devil through your children, through your husband, through your wife, worse now than it’s ever been in the history of this age, or the history of the age.  And I’m telling you this, this is a thing that happens and occurs.  Now Dr. Harris find that verse there were He said that this gospel of the kingdom would be…  Right in the 24th chapter.

Dr. Harris:  14th verse

Dr. Kinley:  14th verse

Dr. Harris:  And this gospel of the kingdom

Dr. Kinley:  And this gospel of the kingdom

Dr. Harris:  Shall be preached in all the world

Dr. Kinley:  Shall be preached in all the world

Dr. Harris:  For a witness unto all nations

Dr. Kinley:  For a witness unto all nations

Dr. Harris:  And then shall the end come

Dr. Kinley:  And then shall the end come.  Now do you see where you are?  You see the great tribulation that you’re having?  The economic depression…


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