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by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley

March 28, 1973

Los Angeles, California

CATALOG # 73.0328

originally recorded by Edna Law

2 90 minute cassette tapes

transcribed by Paul Hayes, Mary Hayes, Gary and Chris Leach

Proof read by Geraldine Rothstein and Mary Gross

approved by International Public Relations Committee – February 1995


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Scripture Reading was Revelation 20, 21, 22

Dr. Kinley:  I’m always happy and glad to be with you and to talk with you about the purpose of Yahweh.  I told you many years ago that I had a vision and a revelation from Yahweh and it was my indispensable duty to prove it to you so that you could realize and comprehend it.  Now as you already know, there are many doctrines, a lot of different churches established out in the world and all of ‘em contend that they are right.  Now I have taken the position to tell you that they are not right.  Now then that places the burden of the responsibility squarely on my shoulders to prove it:  the divine authenticity, the unerring accuracy, and the infallibility, and the assurance of the purpose of Yahweh.  If it’s permissible for me to use these words, which I will expound, I’ll give you the etymology of ‘em from cosmology (now that means origin) to eschatology (now that means ending) in other words from start to finish.  Now I’m talking about the purpose of Yahweh from start to finish as it is contained in your Bible.  Now, if I said that I had a vision and then I didn’t have or possess the ability to understand that Bible which come into existence by vision and revelations that was given to the angels and to the prophets to show to the people on earth direct from Yahweh.  Now if I didn’t possess the ability to do that then put me in the scrap pile with the rest of ‘em.  That’s where I belong.  Now if I may say so and I don’t want you to look at this as boasting, I have nothing to boast about.  You, you have more to boast about than I do for this reason:  if you are able to comprehend the things that I tell you and show you that’s better than I done because mine didn’t come by faith, mine come by divine sight.  That’s what a vision and a revelation is, something you see.  Now do you follow?

Audience:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  So now that eliminates my boast.  And I wanna say this while I’m talking to you.  And I’m saying it to you for a purpose and a reason.  I want you to have, pay strict attention and try to find out and try to understand the things that I have said to you or do say to you from one time to the other because it’s important, the time is far spent.  The people have been nearly 2000 years since Yahshua the Messiah walked around on the earth and you see that they’re divided as of now.  Everybody’s contending that they’re right.  Now that also was prophesied that these things would be.  And the people just go along blind.  And say, `well I’ve been in this for so long and all my people they were born and raised in it and now it’s too late for me to make any changes.’  Did you ever stop to think about eternity?  How long that is?  And the lake of fire and you being in that?  Now that, that’ll be longer than you have, anybody has been in any church.  Now most all of us that see anything of the truth at all have been in something at one time or another and we had to get up and get out of it?  Now that goes for the preacher too.  That’s right.  Now what we try to do is to assure you that Yahweh does exist.  That’s first.  And He does have a purpose and He has a plan and it’s workable through dispensations and ages which He has set up Himself.  And He works all things after the counsel of His own will.  Now listen, He has no hindrance.  The devil is not a hindrance to Yahweh, he’s an asset, not a liability.  Now he’ll give you a whole lotta trouble but he isn’t any trouble at all to Yahweh; your adversary.  Are you listening.

Audience:   Um hum.

Dr. Kinley: Now, I had Dr. Farley to read that lesson.  And if you notice he read out of three chapters.  Now what we must be able to do is to take this book from Genesis to Revelation, now we must know it like that.  And that’s what we have tried to do in this school was to teach you the book from Genesis to Revelation.  I’d like to make this clear to you too.  There is mistranslations in any Bible that you pick up.  And there is also interpolations.  Now you know what a mistranslation is.  Now an interpolation is a spurious phrase.  Now if you will pay attention then you will be able to pick up these mistranslations and you will also be able to pick up these interpolations or spurious phrases.  Now this thing must go together in, in perfect unison and harmony.  Remember that this Book which we call the Bible, it was once sealed with seven seals.  Now every Tom, Dick, and Harry that come down the road he’s not gonna understand this Bible.  Now just because you can read and quote the Bible don’t spell a thing.  And I’ll tell you this:  the Bible will confuse you.  And it’ll almost make an atheist, an agnostic or an infidel out of you or an unbeliever out of you.  Why?  Because you don’t know how it’s put together.  You don’t understand it and it appears that one thing refutes or disputes the other.  And there you are.  And the way it’s written it just simply don’t make no sense.  It don’t make no sense to a carnal mind.  It looks like it disputes itself but when you understand how to put it together then you will find it all together different.  Now this book of Revelation, a lot of preachers will say this, `Now I don’t fool with that Book of Revelations because I don’t.’  Now he’s judging you by his informational capacity.  He said, `now I don’t understand the Revelation and now since I don’t understand it, it’s impossible for you to understand it as smart as I am.  So I just don’t fool with it and I don’t think anybody else knows because I’m as smart as they make ‘em and if I don’t know then nobody else don’t know.’  Now that’s the way they do.  Now I’m here to tell you this.  Now almost every time we come to school, you may not be aware and conscious of it but we take that book from Genesis to Revelation and expound it in utter simplicity and in reality.  There’s no excuse for you not understanding and not agreeing with one another.  What you need there is somebody that knows. 

     Now one of the first things that we should learn, now this, this is the first thing we should learn, the name of the Creator.  You cannot have a creation without a creator.  Now you must be able to prove…  Now let me see if I can’t fix that so you can understand what I’m talking about.  Now just to say, `in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth’ that don’t mean a thing.  Anybody can read that and that’s the reason why we tell you now this is not a Bible reading scripture quoting contest down here.  That’s not what this is.  And we just don’t have no particular respect for no individual.  All we’re gonna pay any attention to down in this school is this (now this is all we’re going to pay attention to) and that is Yahweh Himself.  Now He is the teacher.  I don’t profess to be as a man any great individual personality.  I don’t profess to be that but I am telling you that Yahweh does live and manifest Himself through everybody.  Everybody -good, bad, and indifferent, even the devil is a servant to help Him carry out His purpose.  Now since Dr. Farley read in Revelation…  A lot of us don’t even take time to get the true divine etymological meaning of that word, the original meaning of it.  Revelation.  Now here’s a person, often times they say `well, I don’t understand Revelation.’  Well now if you had a revelation or if you understood anything at all about Yahweh and His eternal purpose, then you did have a revelation.  Now if you didn’t then you didn’t have one, that’s all.  And did you ever know?  Now listen carefully to what I’m saying.  None of them that are in the Bible that had visions and revelations and manifestations from Him, one didn’t dispute the other.  Question – why not?  Because it’s all coming from the same source.  And though you have several, many writers of this Book which you call the Bible, all of them are in perfect accord and agreement because it all come from the same place; therefore you should understand it from Genesis to Revelations.  Now let me see if I can kinda get after the thing so I can show you.  First we said you should understand the names.  Most of us have been idolaters, unconsciously, serving Baal, the Lord, God, and Jesus Christ.  Now that’s wrong.  Now there ain’t no need in you settin‘ up here arguing.  That’s wrong.  It’s definitely wrong.  But now if you don’t know no better, I said now if you don’t know no better, nobody had ever told you or showed you anything better and that’s all you’ve known all your life, why then there’s some excuse for you but now that don’t make it right.  Now just as soon as you find out about it, right there it’s time for you to change.  That’s right.  Somebody said, `well, what about my folks?’  Now it ain’t what about your folks, it’s what about you.  Now this name Yahweh:  I don’t, I, I don’t have time to go into all the details of that, just don’t have time but what I do want to do tonight, now this is what I wanna do:  I want to show you how this Bible is put together.  And I wanna show you (if it’s permissible for me to just come right out and just say what I’m talking about) I wanna show you that Billy Graham and these television preachers, Roman Catholics and Protestants and these religions as of today, they don’t know no more about Yahweh and His eternal purpose than a hog does about dentistry or gold teeth.  Now that looks like a blasphemous remark to make about somebody but now I told you the truth.

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s the way it is Freddie. 

Fred Allen Jr.:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  When it comes to extemporaneous oratory or the gift of gab or just giving great orations I’ll try to say it and for admiration of personalities and reputations and things of that kind, people follow those things depending and trusting them.  They don’t even know the name of the Father.  They don’t know anything about righteousness as it is experienced that a person could have by having the Holy Spirit in them or Yahweh’s eternal spirit.  They don’t have none of that.  It, it, it appears that they do and people are deceived thinking that they do when they really don’t.  Now, how about that?  The Roman Catholics they wanna say that they’re right.  Now listen close.  Now they want to say that the pope…  And a lot of people don’t even know what, what the definition of the pope, they don’t know the meaning of it.  They don’t know it means papa or father.  And Yahshua the Messiah said don’t call no man your father.  And the apostles they say about our fathers before.  They was one speaking pertaining to the spiritual father and the other to the physical.  We’ve all had physical fathers but we only have but one spiritual father.  And we are not to call any man that.  Now why not?

Because one is your father which is in heaven.  Now if, then, then they go so far as to call him Most Holy Father.  The Most Holy Father.  That oughta be enough, that oughta be enough right there to just stop you dead in your tracks.  Then on top of all that they say that he has plentitude of power to put you in heaven, out of purgatory and into heaven.  And a lot of them fear it because they don’t want to be excommunicated.  They seek to please him.  Now listen.  They think that he is a mediator between Yahweh and man.  And then they go further with it to have you praying to holy Mary, Mother of God.  Now you pay attention to what I’m telling you.  It’ll help you.  Now listen, the Holy Spirit in nobody never did pray to no one else other that Yahweh Elohim.  Never did.  So now if they’re telling you to pray to, to Mary, there’s nothing Mary can do for you.  And then by praying to her, ask her to ask her divine Son, Jesus, the fruit of her womb, to intercede for you.  Then they don’t let that alone, they don’t let it alone at that.  They go ahead on and say that he’s the mediator between, the pope is the mediator between you and God (they call it) or Yahweh.  Now I want you to read the second, I think it’s 1 Timothy 2:5.  Now this ought to get it.  This ought to stop you from your foolishness and if you don’t stop it then it’s to the lake you go.  Read.

Reader:  For one is Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  Now one is Yahweh or Yahweh is one, not three but one.  Read on.

Reader:  and one mediator

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen.  Now wait just a minute now.  Just a minute.  And just one mediator, just one mediator not two, not three, not a half a dozen between

Reader:  Him and men

Dr. Kinley:  between Him and men.  Now I wanna know who that is?

Reader:  the man Yahshua the Messiah.

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen, you either take that or else you are going to the lake.  And he didn’t say Jesus either.  Now that’s the way that is.  That or to the lake.  There’s no other mediator:  that means the pope can’t do you no good, that means Mary can’t do you no good.  And I might ask you this, as the Apostle Paul said to the Grecians:  was Paul crucified for you?  Was Peter crucified for you?  Was Mary crucified for you?  Was your pastor crucified for you?  Was mama or papa crucified for you?  Do you understand what I’m talking about?  We’re down to business now.  No foolin‘.  That’s what Paul told the church at Corinth and they were confused.  You can read it if you want to.  It’s in there.  I think it’s either the first chapter or the fifth chapter of the first epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, 1st Corinthians.  Now you got that straight?  Now why would that be that way?  Now here’s why it has to be that way Freddie.  Because..  Are you all listening?

Audience:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  You’re sure you’re listening?

Audience:  Yes

Dr. Kinley:  because it was foreordained right from the very beginning that He was the lamb slain and offered, that was in His purpose.  So He didn’t have no other choice  And you can’t make no other ___ (COUGHING) Now He’s the only source.  Now how am I doing?

Audience:  All right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now we had Dr. Farley to read.  Did you find that?

Reader:  1 Corinthians 1

Dr. Kinley:  All right read it, I want, I want…  A lot of people they gonna, they don’t know. All they know is to run around and get two verses in the Bible.  And when they get through with it they don’t know what it’s all about.

Reader:  1 Corinthians 1:12 and 13.  Now this I say that everyone of you saith, I am of Saul

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and I of Apollos

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and I of Cephas

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and I of the Messiah

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  Is the Messiah divided?

Dr. Kinley:  Now is He divided up like that?  Now you know there’s divisions among you.  There’s the Roman Catholics and the Baptists, the Methodists.  You know they’re divided.  You wanna argue about that?

Audience:  No. 

Dr. Kinley:  All right.

Reader:  Was Saul crucified for you?

Dr. Kinley:  Now was Saul or Paul crucified for you?  There has to be some sacrificial, sacrificial atonement made here for man.  Now if the Pope wasn’t crucified for you and he didn’t die for you then he said he just won’t do.  If there were, here’s what we’re trying to tell you.  Now this is what we’re trying to tell you, and if you get this straight in your mind, then that’ll help you.  Yahshua the Messiah is Yahweh Elohim incarnated in a physical body.  That is the all in all.  And there’s no salvation in Michael, Gabriel and nothing else but Him.  That’s the creator and everything else.  That’s all that really does exist.  Now is that clear?

Audience:  Yes

Dr. Kinley:  So then that means He’s the only one that can do anything for you. Now how about that? 

Audience:  Alright.

Dr. Kinley:  Anybody in here don’t want to buy that?  Hold up your hand.  So let it be that way.  Now we talked about, and I’m gonna try in the rest of the time we have, I said I’m going to try to show you how this Bible is put together so that you can take from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22 and last and put it together and understand it.  That is to open up these seals and show you how it is.  Now that would be nice.  Don’t you think so?

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now look.  When you come to school this is one of the first things they tell you:  to the law and to the testimony.  That’s Isaiah 8:20.  That’s one of the first things they tell you.  Now that’s what you should do.  Now when you go back to the law, the first five books.  Say that every time you come to school.  Never miss.  Right?

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now that’s what you’re gonna have to do.  Now if you’re gonna grab this book up in the middle in what you call Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John on over.  Say, `well we’re not, we’re living in the New Testament now.’  You missed the boat there.  Now the reason why you missed the boat there, you thought that was the New Testament, now that’s not the New Testament.  Now listen folks, pay attention now to what I’m saying.  I’m weak, I don’t feel like being up here on this floor.  And I’m up here for a specific purpose tonight.  And my purpose is to help you, help you understand things that will confirm, give you some confidence in Yahweh, keep you standing, do away with guessing and have a profound knowledge of things.  All right.  What?

Reader:  Isaiah 8:20

Dr. Kinley:  Isaiah 8:20

Reader:  To the law and to the testimony

Dr. Kinley:  To the law and to the testimony

Reader:  If they speak

Dr. Kinley:  Now wait just a minute.  No sooner than you say that, some blind fool will say this, `we’re not living under the law now, we’re living under the dispensation of grace.’  And then you think that he’s smart.  Say, `now that’s what’s the matter with them folks down at that Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research.’  Say, `they’re living under the law, we’re not living under the law, we’re living under the dispensation of grace.’  Then that same individual will turn right around and practice what’s under the law and tell you he’s preaching the gospel and fool you so bad.  Now listen to what I’m saying now.  Anybody in this building that can read out of this Bible where Jesus, where the Lord God or Yahshua or Elohim said anything (listen now, listen close) said anything at any time in the history of the world before or since the death, burial and resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah about you eating the feast of the Passover.  Anybody?  Read it to me.  Read it to me out of the Bible where Yahweh, God, or the Lord or Jesus Christ or Peter or any of them, well then you ought to be able to read it.  They’re reading it out here in the Roman Catholic Church.  They’re reading it out there in the Baptist Church.  They’re reading it out there in the Church of Christ.  Now why is it you can’t read it when you come down here? 

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  Now don’t you think everybody sitting up in here in this audience is a fool and don’t know what’s in this Book.  We’ve got some good Bible scholars down here.  Right?

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now you read it to me out of your Bible since you’re a good Baptist brother.  You read it to me where God or the Lord or Jesus Christ or Yahweh, Elohim or Yahshua ever said anything in the history of the world, read it to me out your Bible where He says for you to ever get, as a Gentile to get your foot wet or get in any water, any where, at any time.  Read it to me out of the Bible.  That’s funny, you can’t read nothing out of there, I say you’ve been reading it all your life.  And you could not read it all your life.  And you said you’ve been in the thing all your life and it’s too late for you to get out now you can’t find where it’s at in the Book.  Now how about that?

Audience:  Right

Dr. Kinley:  You people got awful stupid all of a sudden

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  Those things are just not in the Bible that way.  Now there’s one more important thing I want you to know before we go into ramifications and we’ll put these ramifications together for you in such a way that you can under…, we hope you’ll understand.  Will somebody go to the board?  Put the name, that’s the first thing we wanna know.  Yahweh.  The name is already up there.  That’s one of the first things we wanna know something about.  Now why is that important?  So that we won’t be worshipping and serving idols.  That’s all you’ve been in all your life, idolatry but you didn’t know it.  You serving the Lord, and Jesus Christ and, and that’s all you, that’s all that is, idolatry.  Isn’t that right Dr. Gross?

Dr. Gross:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Is that right Dr. Harris?

Dr. Harris:  Yes sir.

Dr. Kinley:  Is that right Dr. Zeals?

Dr. Zeals:  That is correct.

Dr. Kinley:  Sure?

Dr. Zeals:  It’s correct.

Dr. Kinley:  All right there. 

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  Now if, if I get off, if I get off on the wrong foot here you all let me know about it, call my attention to it.  Now that’s what I taught the school ever since I’ve been teaching, 41 years.  Now if I say something you don’t understand you have a right to know something about it.  We want you to know otherwise it wouldn’t be no sense in you being down here if you didn’t come to learn.  And then another thing, expect to be told something you didn’t know.

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now you, there ain’t need of you coming down here and expecting me to agree with you and your concepts.  That ain’t what you come down here for.  My job is teaching you something you didn’t know.  And I told you if I, if I wasn’t capable and able to do that then I don’t have no business trying to be no dean or teacher of the school.  And I’ll let you know now what I meant when I said that, that the teacher was Yahweh Elohim through Yahshua the Messiah being in you or the Holy Spirit in you is the teacher, not me as a man, not Dr. Harris.  Now is that clear to everybody?  Now you ought not to stumble over that no more.  Now you should know Him, the Father, and Elohim is a title not a name for the Father in shape and form.  And Yahshua is the Son of Yahweh.  Now you should, you should get that, get that learned.  Now because, ain’t no need of you praying to nothing else.  And let me tell you this:  the Holy Spirit in you will not pray to the Lord.

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  It will not pray to God.  That’s stubborn, that’s a hard thing to swallow.  It will not pray to Jesus Christ because (now listen, are you listening now?)

Audience:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  Now the Holy Spirit in you Bishop (now get this straight now) will make intercessions for you according to the will and purpose of Yahweh not according to your carnal concepts.  That’s the reason why you don’t get no answers because you don’t pray, or the Holy Spirit don’t make the prayer or the intercession for you; therefore you don’t get no response, not from Yahweh.  Now you’ll get a whole lot of responses from the Devil.  That’s what’s exactly right.  Now then you oughta know Him first:  Yahweh, Elohim, and Yahshua.  Now that’s number one.,  Number two, put this down too Dr. Harris.  We should know the purpose of Yahweh.  Know what His purpose is.  Next to that we should know something about the dispensations and ages, how he’s carrying the purpose out.  Now really what I’m talking to you about now is the contents of the Bible, dispensations and ages.  Is there anything else we oughta know you think? 

Audience:  Know what the New Testament is.

Dr. Kinley:  Put that down.  First you oughta know what the old one is.

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  If you don’t know what the old one is then you don’t, you don’t know the difference.  Now this is how the Devil messes us all up because of, can anybody think of anything else we ought to know?  Huh?

Audience:  The mystery of Iniquity.

Dr. Kinley:  Yes.  The Mystery of Iniquity.  Well there ain’t no way for you to know Yahweh without knowing that. 

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  Now he says the Mystery of Iniquity, that’s Satan and his imps.  Now while he’s doing that somebody find over there in Exodus where Yahweh said, `I will be what I will be.’  Ayah asher ayah.

Reader:  Exodus 3:14

Dr. Kinley:  Well read it.  Now be still and be quiet everybody cause when we do take off here then we’ll be right back into this.  And we’re going to try to put this Bible together so it’ll make some sense to you.  And I mean from Genesis on to Revelation yet tonight.  How about that?  Where you find that at in the Bible?

Reader:  2 Thessalonians 2nd chapter

Dr. Kinley:  2 Thessalonians 2nd chapter.  Now that’s the mystery, ayah asher ayah, I will be what I will to be.  That’s what Yahweh said, is that right?  Now we want one, we want to put one right by that which is, which is, which is.., now here’s how you get fooled.  Now here’s how you get fooled.  Now Isaiah 14:14 and 15 I think.

Reader:  For thou has said in thine heart

Dr. Kinley:  For thou has said in thine heart

Reader:  I will ascend into heaven

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  I will exalt my throne above the stars of El

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north.

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  I will be like the Most High

Dr. Kinley:  Now hold it.  Hold it.  Now you hold this thing.  Have you got a hold of it now?  Yahweh said I will be.  Yahweh said I will be what I will to be.  What did you say the Devil said?

Reader:  I will be like the Most High.

Dr. Kinley:  Then if he’s going to have anything, he’s going to imitate.  Said I will be.  He can’t be what he wills to be so he said I will be like the most high.  Leviticus 16:2

Reader:  And Yahweh said unto Moses

Dr. Kinley:  And Yahweh said unto Moses

Reader:  Speak unto Aaron thy brother

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  that he come not at all times into the Holy Place within the veil

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  before the mercy seat

Dr. Kinley:  now listen

Reader:  which is upon the ark that he die not:  for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat

Dr. Kinley:  Now hold.., now he said now I will appear, now I will appear in the cloud above upon the mercy seat.  Now if you caught on Freddie what you read over there in Isaiah, now he said I’m gonna ascend above the clouds.  Now Yahweh said I will dwell in the cloud between the wings of the cheribims.  Now he’s gonna, Satan, he’s gonna ascend on up above.  He’s gonna exalt himself on up above.  That’s what Paul is talking about in the 2nd chapter of Thessalonians.  Now he’s a slick.  He fooled you, he deceived you.  Now that’s what he’s doing all over the world not just in one place.  Now we’re straight now.  We’re pretty well straight now.  You see that don’t you?  Satan is going to mock.  He’s a mocker.  He’s a deceiver and he tried to be just.., just exalts himself on above Yahweh.  Yahweh dwells in a cloud.  He goes on up above it.  And he is that anointed cherub that covereth and that boy is something else (that’s right) setting over there in Rome too, the spirit I’m talking about.

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Not over there in Rome.  He is in the tabernacle, he was in the tabernacle or the temple was in the Devil.  The temple of his body in, in the Saint Peter’s over there.  I been talking about his throne, there he’s setting up there with 666 wrote all over him.  He’s ruling the earth.  Christ, He’s gone on off.  And he’s taken his place, he’s ruling now.  Protestantism come out of Judaism, Roman Catholicism come out of Judaism and Judaism a, Catholicism come out of Judaism.  So now he’s taken over.  A murderer right from the very beginning.  Now that’ll do for that.  Now I want you to pay attention now.  Now here’s what we’re gonna try to do.  We’re going to try to put this book together in such a way that you will know what we’re talking about and understand.  Now I want you to get the 24th chapter of Exodus and read the first two verses and then skip on down.

Reader:  And he said unto Moses.

Dr. Kinley:  And Yahweh Elohim said unto Moses.  Dr. Harris I don’t want to keep you standing, get a chair.

Reader:  Come up unto Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  come up unto Yahweh

Reader:  thou and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu


Dr. Kinley:  Now listen to what he’s saying now.  Come up unto Yahweh.  Thou

Reader:  Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu and seventy of the elders of Israel

Dr. Kinley:  and seventy of the elders of Israel

Reader:  and worship ye afar off.

Dr. Kinley:  And worship ye afar off.

Reader:  And Moses alone shall come near Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  And Moses alone shall come near Yahweh

Reader:  but they shall not come nigh

Dr. Kinley:  They shall not come nigh

Reader:  neither shall the people go up with thee.

Dr. Kinley:  Neither shall the people go up with thee.  Now skip on down there in Exodus.

Reader:  Do you want 9 and 10?

Dr. Kinley:  Yes

Reader:  Then went up Moses, Aaron, Nadab and Abihu

Dr. Kinley:  Now I want you to pay attention to this.  Now this is what is happening.  They have come up out of Egypt.  The cloud leads them.  They put the blood on each side of the door and up over the door post and it’s dark down there.  A lot of times I hear them speak about this but they don’t mention about the darkness.  Down in Egypt, now I’m talking about when the pascal lamb was slain and the Israelites was down there.  Now when the Lamb of Yahweh that takes away the sins of the world.  See how it comes right on over, right on the same line?  When He’s slain over there, there’s got to be four points of blood:  one, two, three, and the one down at the bottom.  One, two, three, one down at the bottom.  And He’s pierced in the side and while He’s on the cross His life is draining out and it turns dark over the face of the earth from the 6th to the 9th hour.  Now what that is is a fulfillment of this.  Now this is the 10th plague, that death, plague of death prior to and they came out by that cloud.  Now, out of Egypt into the wilderness, tarrying in here 40 years.  And while they were in here Yahweh gathered them up around the mount.  That’s what you, that’s what she’s reading about now.  He gave them the commandments from the mountain.  And they pitched their tents in there.  And you read this too.  Now look, listen to what I’m saying.  Now I’m trying to put it together now you’re going to have to be still, you’re going to have to try to follow me and I’m trying to find words to explain things to you.  So now when they come up out of here and gather up around this mountain and He spoke to ‘em, Moses wrote the commandments and then, that He spoke from the mountain.  Then he went up into the mountain.  Now what He told him to come up into the mountain was for, was to get the tables of stone.  Didn’t say anything to him about the creation.  He told him to come up and get the tables, He’d give him tables of stone.  Is that right?

Audience:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  It was written with the finger.  While he was up there, He showed him the creation.  Now follow close.  And He told him also to build, speak to the children of Israel and tell them to build Him a tabernacle that He might dwell among them.  Now I want to explain something here about that too because that’s often overlooked in the.., right straight on.  Because when they went, when they come up out of Egypt they had that tent.  And they had their tents, they were what you might call tent dwellers.  They brought those tents out of there.  They didn’t make them out there in the wilderness but they did make the, the tabernacle out there in the wilderness and the, that material that they robbed, they took from the Egyptians (the gold and silver and linen and, and stuff like that) that they brought up, that was used in the building of this tabernacle.  Now listen, He said now you build me a sanctuary that I might dwell among them.  Well now if you say that Yahshua is come up here out of Egypt with them and now if He’s along with them, why is He telling them to gather this material and build Him a sanctuary that He might dwell among them.  Well here’s the reason why He did.., just taken plain and literal now, He didn’t, He didn’t stay over here.  Their tent was over here.  And His was pitched over yonder on the back side of the mountain.  So He told them to gather up the material and build one that He might dwell among them.  So when they did build the tabernacle and there was 3 tribes on each side of it.  The 12 tribes on each side of it and the tabernacle was in the middle.  And the shechinah or the incorporeal entered into this tabernacle and dwelt between the wings of the cherubim.  Now look what I’ve said to you.  Look what I said to you.  Then, then, then we’re, then we’re going to start, then we’re going to start to try to put the thing together so you can see.  I had to say this to you here about this passover down in Egypt, about them coming through the parted waters of the Red Sea and on into the wilderness and then Him speaking from the mountain and Moses writing it down.  Him going up in the mountain, Moses, Yahweh called him, Moses up into the mountain and 70 elders up into the mountain.  And He said Moses alone shall come near.  Now listen folks.  Always bear this in mind, never lose sight of this one thing.  And that’s this:  Now all these elders, Aaron was not up there, Nadab was not up here in the cloud, Moses alone went up into that cloud and was the only man that saw that vision.  Wasn’t another one of them along with him that entered into the midst of that cloud and saw that vision.  Now if you could just take and translate that into the facts that Yahweh.., He don’t show visions and revelations like that to every Tom, Dick, and Harry.  Now He had a problem, Moses when he come back down and Yahweh told him to build a tabernacle like he’d seen up there in the cloud.  Here’s Aaron down here with them.  They done left up the top of the plateau of the mount and went back down and built the golden calf.  And when he gets back down Abiram, Dathan, and Korah, they tell Moses that the way he’s talking about building this tabernacle won’t do.  Now they did ___ up there and that’s what Judas talked about.  ___ ___ ___ ___.  Now when he gets up here, now he didn’t come right down, he’s up there 40 days and 40 nights.  While he’s up there Yahweh showed him a vision of the creation of heaven and earth.  I want you to get that there in your Book now.  Right in the 24th chapter where you’re reading.

Reader:  24:16

Dr. Kinley:  24:16

Reader:  And the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai

Dr. Kinley:  Now you’re at the 24th chapter and the 16th verse.  And the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai.

Reader:  and the cloud covered it 6 days:

Dr. Kinley:  Now the cloud covered it 6 days.  Is that right?

Audience:  That’s right

Dr. Kinley:  Now wait just a minute.  Pay attention now.  Everybody pay attention.  Now I’m giving you, this is what I’m doing now, I’m giving you, I’m telling you how Yahweh showed me as He did Moses.  Now that’s what I’m trying to tell you about.  And I’m trying to show you that I do know and that I was there.  Now I’m not saying as a man or a physical man, I don’t mean that that way.  No sir, I was not there like that.  Now is that clear to you?

Audience:  Yes

Dr. Kinley:  You understand that don’t you?

Audience:  Yes

Dr. Kinley:  All right. Now the cloud covered it 6 days.  Finish what you was reading.

Reader:  And the 7th day He called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.

Dr. Kinley:  Now it don’t say a thing about what happened during those 6 days does it?

Audience:  No

Dr. Kinley:  Now here I am I asked Brother Farley to read the 20th chapter, the 21st and the 22nd chapter of Revelation.  I didn’t say anything to him about the rest of it.  Now what you have there in those 6 days, what happened during those 6 days?  Let me show you the, the, the markings too.  Get some markings out here.  Now you pay attention to this.  Now here’s why I’m telling you to pay attention to this.  Now Yahshua the Messiah said that every jot or every yod and every tittle of the law should be fulfilled.  Now we’re after yods and tittles.  Now here’s a mark that you got there, 6 days.  You see that mark?

Audience:  Yes

Dr. Kinley:  Now where is that at? 

Reader:  In 24:16.  After 6 days.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s 24:16, Exodus 24:16 and on the 7th day.  It don’t say that, does it?  Now look.  Listen.  Revelation 10:4.  Turn over there.

Reader:  And when the 7 thunders

Dr. Kinley:  Now what did you say?

Reader:  And when the 7 thunders had uttered their voices

Dr. Kinley:  Now when the 7 thunders had uttered their voices

Reader:  I was about to write

Dr. Kinley:  I was about to write.  Now if you looked over there in the 1st chapter and all, it told him what he saw to write it in a book and what was to do with it.  Send it to the Vatican.  No.  Sent it to the 7 churches which are in Asia.  Is that right?

Audience:  Right

Dr. Kinley:  You see what I’m talking about?  Now he said I was about to write and what happened?

Reader:  I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  seal up those things

Dr. Kinley:  Now seal up, now we’re trying to unwrap ‘em.  Seal up those things

Reader:  which the 7 thunders uttered

Dr. Kinley:  which the 7 thunders uttered

Reader:  and write them not.

Dr. Kinley:  and don’t write ‘em.  Why not?  Read.

Reader:  And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven. 

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  And sware by Him that liveth forever and ever,

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  who created heaven and the light and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are,

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and the sea,

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and the things which are therein

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  that there should be time no longer:

Dr. Kinley:  should be time

Reader:  no longer

Dr. Kinley:  No longer.  See that now?  Time no longer.  Now listen folks.  Look up here at me and listen at what I’m saying to you.  This physical creation did not take place in the realm of time.  It took place in the realm of eternity, not in time.  Then what you should say to me then (since you don’t understand) you should say to me then I understand that here in the 20th chapter of Exodus, remember the sabbath day to keep it holy for in 6 days Yahweh created the heavens and the earth.  Now you’re calling my attention back.  I said it didn’t take place in the realm of time.  Now that looks like I have been stupid.  You follow now?  That looks like I have been stupid.  But time no more because now what has happened is He’s creating this in the realm of eternity.  Now look folks, so I can make it real clean and clear to you now.  You’ll remember that Adam in the Garden of Eden, he’s driven out of the Garden of Eden.  Here’s the flood and the end of that age and end of that world.  And here comes Abraham, this is Noah.  And then here comes Abraham.  And now you’re way over here in another dispensation and another age.  Now Moses is up in this mountain as you see him here.  Then he’s carried on back when there was nothing at all in the realm of eternity.  Do you recall that I said to you to begin with (now listen to what I’m saying) you have to have a creator, and if you don’t have a creator you cannot have a creation.

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  So now we have to find a creator.  And He called Moses up into this mountain within this cloud which is symbolical of eternity.  Now it’s on the mountain here so you can see the mountain is there, so you know the creation has already done taken place but He’s carrying Moses back in a vision and showing him before the creation took place.  Now listen, listen to what I’m saying now.  Then the sun was rising and setting and 6 settings, risings and settings of this sun way over in the middle of the dispensation and age or way after the flood or in another world.  He’s showing Moses, carrying him on in the realm of eternity and showed him how that He created here in the realm of time.  Moses looked right at everything that happened while that sun was rising and setting and Israel was down here at the bottom of the mount. 

Audience:  All right, yes.

Dr. Kinley:  And 6 times that sun in the etherial heavens was rising and setting.  Those are the 6 days that, that took him to see, to show him that vision and that revelation in an age after, way after the flood, after Abraham.  Here’s way over here, showing, carrying him on back in the realm of eternity.  Now Dr. Harris is showing you the dispensations and ages.  Now these things, these jackass preachers they don’t know nothing about it.  Now my job is making you understand the thing.  And I’m telling you I was there.  Now each one of these days, now, now listen, get this straight now.  He is the pattern Himself.  And every day of that creation has got to be a complete cycle:  Most Holy Place, the Holy Place and the Outer Court.  Each and every, each one of those days He’s creating by Himself and He is the pattern.  Now this is taking place in the realm of eternity not in time.  Now note:  while I just got through telling you that the sun was rising and setting, now in the vision he don’t see the sun appear until the 4th day.  Is that right?

Audience:  Right

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen closer.  You have to have a sun and a moon.  You have to have day and night.  Did you know that Dr. Farley read to you over there in Revelations there was no night there.  They would have to be in the realm of eternity and not in time.  Those are the instruments, the sun and the moon and the planets by which time is calculated.  But now you see in these first 3 days up here in this vision he don’t have no sun, yet he does. It sounds like, you say, `I thought you just..,’ yea the sun was there.  That’s where you made your mistake.  Here’s the sun right here.  Now that’s why science say they can’t understand and disagree with the Mosaic account of the creation because in the Mosaic account you didn’t have the sun to give light.  And you can’t have vegetation without cosmic light or the light of the sun.  Is that right?

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now therefore they disagree with it but you see the sun, real sun, physical sun here in the sky is a type of the Son here.  So the Son was first.  And it was the Son that created everything.  What do you mean by that?  I mean Yahweh is pure spirit and He takes on a shape and form.  He existed this way first and since He existed this way first anything that appears afterwards will have to be a Son because it’s Father first and then Son.  How about that?  Are you following me now?  And that’s why Isaiah said He’s the sun of righteousness rise with healing in His wings.  See the Son is first, and each and every day…  Now this is what you’re gonna have to do now.  Go on back to Genesis.  Now you got in Exodus, got 24:16 there, is that right?  And you got them 6 days there.  Is that right?  Now I’m gonna tell you what happened in the six days.  Now there’s, here’s the vision, that Moses put it over here in the beginning of your Bible, now we’re back to Genesis folks.  The vision that he had in the mountain at this time (BANGS ON THE CHART) in here, he put it in the first part of the Book.  Now he’s saying what happened to him in 6 days.  Now read.

Reader:  In the beginning

Dr. Kinley:  Now in the beginning…  Now what’d, just a minute, got something else here.  Now you’ve been all messed up all your life.  Now somebody said `well, that’s in the beginning.’  Read John 1:1 and Revelations 3:14.  I just want to show you or a person that don’t know what it is all about, ain’t no way under the sun they can understand it, and unless Yahweh reveals it to you you’ll never understand.  You wanna never take your carnal mind and run in this Book and try to understand it.  Ain’t no need, ain’t no need of you running out and trying to play smarter than anybody else either.  How about that?  Ain’t no need of you trying to figure it out cause you can’t figure it out.  No you can’t figure it out, God’s gonna have to reveal it to you.  This doesn’t come by figuring it out, this comes by revelation.  Now he said in the beginning.  Read Revelation 3:14 first.

Reader:  And unto the messenger of the assembly of

Dr. Kinley:  And to the messenger, now this is what He’s telling John out here on the Isle of Patmos.  Read.  To the messenger of the assembly.

Reader:  of the Laodiceans

Dr. Kinley:  of the Laodiceans

Reader:  these things saith the I am

Dr. Kinley:  These things saith the I am

Reader:  the faithful and true witness

Dr. Kinley:  the faithful and true witness.  Now just a minute.  Just hold that right there.  Hold it right tight, right there for just a second.  Now read John 1:1.

Reader:  In the beginning was the Word

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and the Word was with Yahweh.

Dr. Kinley:  He’s right with Him therefore He’s a witness.  How about that?  Is that all right now.  In the beginning.  All right.  Now you got that one?  All right now, now we’re talking about the creation now.  Read on.

Reader:  The beginning of the creation of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  Now you see?  He is the beginning.  Look folks. Look, look right at me.  Him taking on a shape and form, incorporeal or a spiritual embodiment, that is the beginning of the creation.  What is that?  That is Yahweh Elohim.  Elohim is a title of the Father in shape and form – that is the organization of the attributes of love and wisdom and knowledge and intelligence into an embodiment.  Now you can only see that in a vision.  And when it took on all those, that shape and form then that is the beginning of the creation.  Now listen closely.  Right there is where Yahweh went out of business.  And it was that shape and that form (that’s Yahweh in shape and form, don’t misunderstand me there) and He’s creating everything. Now did you remember that you read over there a while ago in Revelation 10:4 when the 7 thunders uttered their voices.  Is that what you read?

Audience:  right.

Dr. Kinley:  And, now it said 7 thunders.  Is that right?  Now here comes a thunder right back now in the first chapter of Genesis.

Reader:  In the beginning Elohim created

Dr. Kinley:  Now he’s reading in the beginning of that vision which Yahweh is showing to Moses.  Moses alone and by himself was in that cloud which symbolized him being in the realm of eternity.

Audience:  right.

Dr. Kinley:  Wasn’t nobody else up there with him.  I mean there wasn’t any of the children of Israel, just alone and by himself.  Now I’m telling you, now this is what I’m trying to tell you:  I could not explain this if it had not been revealed to me.

Audience:  Right, alright.

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen here.  Nothing you say has no effect on me.  You can argue and dispute that all you please but I was there so you don’t shake my confidence at all.  I, I, I will go out of here just like I come in.  Yahweh showed me what I’m talking to you about.  And you are no smarter than Yahweh, nobody in here.  And I don’t think there’s a man living, and I don’t think he breathes breath walking around, on, on this earth, on, on the face of the earth that knows any more about it than Yahweh showed me.  I don’t believe he’s alive.

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  And you around trying to dispute me, all you’re doing is making an ass out of your own self.  That’s all you’re doing but you don’t know that.  As long as you don’t know that why you go ahead on and inflate the ego.  Now I, I, I don’t mean to be impudent.  I’m just trying to tell you the.., see time for foolishness is out.  Now we got to get down to business.  Now did you follow that?  Now here’s, here’s, the, the sign of tones of thunder.  In the first chapter of Genesis, 10th chapter of Revelation.  Now in the 10th chapter of Revelation in the 4th verse.  Doc, do something about that.  Now you open your Bible and get this verse.  Open it right where I just called.

Reader:  And when the 7 thunders had uttered their voices

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  I was about to write:

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me,

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  seal up those things which the 7 thunders uttered,

Dr. Kinley:  um hum

Reader:  and write them not.

Dr. Kinley:  All right now I want you, I want you to get the punctuation.

Reader:  And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write, colon.

Dr. Kinley:  Colon.  Now you know what I’m doing now?  I’m showing you that colon here in Revelation, I mean in Genesis or in Exodus, in Exodus 24.  I’m showing you that colon there them 6 days and I’m showing you the same colon right back here in Revelation.  Now I told you when we started out with you we take the Revelations and Genesis and turn, turn that whole book up together.  That’s what I told you.  Tied it together.  Now when the 7 thunders uttered their voices, he was about to write.  Now John had wrote what happened.  Now you’re over here in Exodus, over here in Genesis reading what happened.  Read.

Reader:  In the beginning

Dr. Kinley:  In the beginning.  In the beginning of what?  No you can’t say in the beginning of the creation.  You can’t say that.  So you just forget that.  That won’t work there buster cause that’s not the beginning of the creation.  Well then what is the beginning of the creation?  You read it in Revelations 3:14.  You wanna argue?  Anybody want to start a argument?  That’s what the beginning of the creation was:  when Yahweh took on this shape and form; it’s the assembling of His attributes or organized into a physical body or, or, or a spiritual embodiment.  Now listen folks, then after that (listen now closely to what I’m saying) after that then He comes on down and takes on a physical form, or a physical body in the person of, of Joshua as you call Him, which it isn’t, it’s, it’s erroneous.  Now watch while we’re on this Freddie, now I want you to catch this one too.  Now you make sure you got this one.  Don’t let this one get away cause if you let this one get away then you’ve messed it all up.  Now here, where you’re reading here about him in Exodus, now you got over in Genesis you said in the beginning Elohim created.  So Elohim has to be up in that mountain with Moses.

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  How about that?  Can you see what I’m talking about?  Now who is Elohim?  Now you find out who that is, John 5:19 and 20.  Read it.  I’m, I’m going to prove to you I do know what I’m talking about.  I was there.  Yahweh Elohim or Yahshua the Messiah or the Holy Spirit is incarnated in this black body (you don’t have to believe that, that’s right) and in you too. 

Audience:  Right, that’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  So don’t, don’t get all stirred up.  No don’t get, don’t, don’t get all stirred up.  That ain’t none of your body.  You ain’t got no body.  This body belongs to Him.  Then what’s the difference?  I’m conscious of it and you’re not that’s the only difference.  And when that ___ comes in there the other boy’s ruling.  Say would you believe that Yahweh speaks out of all nature?  That’s right.  That’s His testimony.  You don’t, you don’t believe that?  19th division of Psalms.  The heavens declare.  They’ll preach it too.  They declare the glory of El.  Isn’t that right?

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Read John 5 and 20.  And you seen that Joshua went up here with Moses and you seen that El created.  Is that right?  Now you see, see that mountain.  All right.

Reader:  And we know that we are

Dr. Kinley:  Now wait a minute.  Now watch what we’re trying to find out.  We’re trying to find out something about El.  Who in the world is El?  Now you got there in Genesis 1:1 that El created.  Now we want to know who that is.  All right read.

Reader:  And we know that we are of Yahweh.

Dr. Kinley:  Now we know that we are of Yahweh.  Read.

Reader:  And the whole world lieth in wickedness.

Dr. Kinley:  Now the whole world lieth in wickedness.  Read on.

Reader: And we know that the Son of Yah

Dr. Kinley:  Now look, we’re not talking about no speculating; we’re talking about what we know.  You may not know it but we do the apostles are saying.  All right read.

Reader:  And we know that the Son of Yahweh has come.

Dr. Kinley:  Now we know that the Son of Yahweh is gonna come.

Audience:  No

Dr. Kinley:  And set up his kingdom

Audience:  No.  Is come.

Dr. Kinley:  Is come.  We know that He is come.  And what?

Reader:  and hath given us an understanding

Dr. Kinley:  What we’re telling you about is He’s given us an understanding.  That’s what the apostles are saying that we understand what we’re talking about.  All right.

Reader:  that we may know Him that is true

Dr. Kinley:  Now you see that’s what we tell you all the time.  Your only reason for coming down here is to know Yahweh as, not Henry C., not Bob Harris, not Carl F. Gross, not Hobbs or some of the rest of you.  That ain’t why we come down here for, come down here…  And there ain’t nobody so cute and so important that we have to make all this trip down here to just to see you.  We don’t care nothing about you.  And let me tell you this, about this, the thing going around about the black folks and the white folks and all like that.  There ain’t no black folks and white folks going anywhere other than right where you are.  One thing isn’t much better than the other one.  Look here.  You see in this transfiguration, here in this vision, He outshone the noon day sun.  His garments was white as the light.  Have you ever seen a white man shine like that?  You never seen a shine shine like that.

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  I’m just giving it to you straight now.  And Paul tells us in Philippians that when He doth appear we will appear, that He will change our vile bodies like unto His.  Now what business have you got walking around here talking about black folks and white folks and all, the black folks they going to heaven,  see Allah and all that kind of jiv jiving stuff. Red folks, white folks.  Satan’s just got you messed up so bad and deceived.  And I’d started to say something, you mind if I go ahead and say it.

Audience:  Yes.  Say it.

Dr. Kinley:  Go on and say it?

Audience:  Yes. 

Dr. Kinley:  We’re trying to be like what we thought Jesus was, Jesus of Nazareth.  There was a reason He was called a Nazarene because He had to shave His hair off and He couldn’t put no razor on it no more before He went down to John the Baptist to fulfill that vow of the Nazarene.  And He had long hair and long whiskers.  And we’re trying to look like Jesus Christ, long hair and nappy chin. 

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  You know what the apostle said about that?  Said if a man has long hair – what about it?

Audience:  It’s a shame.

Dr. Kinley:  Disgrace to him.  He was disgraced out there on the cross.  His beard, they pulled his beard out.  He was made a spectacle and a shame for all of us.  Disgraced.  But a woman’s hair was given her – for what?

Audience:  Glory.

Dr. Kinley:  Now she’s done gone and chopped hers off.

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  And then snap a little old wig up on top. 

Audience:  (LAUGHS)

Dr. Kinley:  Now I’m, I’m just showing you how people are messing up the thing, just messing up the thing.  Now, now, now I didn’t (AUDIENCE IS LAUGHING) ____ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ but go ahead on.  Read on.  Read on.

Reader:  And we know that the Son of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  Now we know that the Son of Yahweh

Reader:  is come

Dr. Kinley:  is come

Reader:  and has given us an understanding.

Dr. Kinley:  And has given us an understanding.

Reader:  that we may know Him that is true.

Dr. Kinley:  Now this is what we’re talking about.  We wanna know Him that is true.

Reader:  and we are in Him that

Dr. Kinley:  and we are in Him that is true

Reader:  even in His Son

Dr. Kinley:  even in Yahweh’s Son

Reader:  Yahshua the Messiah.

Dr. Kinley:  Yahshua the Messiah.  Now who is He?  Read.

Reader:  This is the true Elohim

Dr. Kinley:  Now this is the true, in the beginning Elohim created the heavens and earth.  That’s the true Elohim.

Reader:  and the eternal life

Dr. Kinley:  And the eternal life.  Now how about that?  Now can you fix that?  There won’t be no repair work done on that brother.  Now do you see who created?  Now we’re over there in Genesis.  Is that right?  Now let’s get the, these 7 thunders or these 7 voices. 

Reader:  And I

Dr. Kinley:  Now here’s the 7 thunders.  Now you have to go back to Genesis for that.

Reader:  In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth and the earth became without form and void

Dr. Kinley:  without form and void

Reader:  and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

Dr. Kinley:  Darkness was upon the face of the deep.

Reader:  And the spirit of Elohim

Dr. Kinley:  and the spirit of Elohim

Reader:  moved upon the face of the waters

Dr. Kinley:  moved upon the face of the waters

Reader:  And Elohim said

Dr. Kinley:  Elohim said

Reader:  Let there be light.

Dr. Kinley:  let there be light.

Reader:  and there was light.

Dr. Kinley:  And there was light.  Now here’s what I wanna show you there.  Thundered His voice:  and Elohim said, `Let there be light’, thunder, and there was light.  Thunder, the next day, his voice – thunder.  Somebody says, `I don’t believe that.’  Well when He spoke from this mountain up there, did it shake?

Audience:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  Didn’t it shake:  Moses said I’m a.., I’m afraid.  Thunder.  And they saw the lightening and the thunder.  Now it went on through them 6, 7, 6 days.  And on the 7th day, now right down in the 2nd chapter of Genesis you got that about the 3rd and the 4th verse in the King James Version of the Bible and then you got that same thing that you read over here in Exodus.  Now look folks.  Look folks.  Repeat your 1st verse.  Now, now I want you, don’t, don’t, I don’t want you to mess up now.  This is what I’m after now.  I’m after showing you from Genesis to Revelation.  That’s what I’m after, and how to put this Bible together.  You haven’t forgot that have you? 

Audience:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  All right.  Now, repeat.

Reader:  in the beginning

Dr. Kinley:  In the beginning

Reader:  Elohim created the heavens and the earth

Dr. Kinley:  The heavens and the earth.  Now look. Look.  Now here’s the beginning of the migration – them coming up out of Egypt.  It’s dark down here.  It’s dark down here.  Now here’s what I’m going to do with this.  I’m going to take this and put it right on over here with this in the beginning of his vision.  See that darkness there?  And He was the Lamb slain from the foundations.  See that darkness there?  He ___ ___ ___ blood.  See the blood?  See the waters here?  The waters that covered the face of the earth.  You see that?  You follow now?

Audience:  All right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now look.  Be careful now.  Be careful.  Now you see Moses is in this mountain seeing this vision.  John called out on the Isle of Patmos.  An island is a body of land surrounded by water.  Moses is bringing you in this way.  John is looking back and he sees the surrounding, he’s out there surrounded by water, couldn’t see it no where else, only on out on the Isle of Patmos and looked back here and confirm what Moses had seen. Now you see I’m in Genesis, I’m in Revelation.  I’ve got the waters.  I’m also down here in Exodus, coming out here.  I’m also in the 1st verse of the 1st chapter in Genesis coming on down.  You follow now? 

Audience:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  And I’m also here down in the Genesis, the book of Genesis.  I’m in the book of Exodus and I’m in the book of Leviticus.  I should say the Levitical priesthood because that’s what they’re carrying on and John is looking back here and he’s seeing every bit of it.  That’s why we say go back here and then to the law, to the law and to the prophets.  Now what Yahshua the Messiah is doing, He’s fulfilling this.  Now since He’s fulfilling, if He was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, when He’s.., and this is explained down here, it’s got to be dark down here, so when He’s hanging out on the cross out here in your, what you call your New Testament, darkness has got to be over the face of the earth from the 6th to the 9th hour.  Therefore He fulfills this and shows He is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world and there’s darkness there.  I’m everywhere there is to be in the Bible.  Now let’s do it this way.  Now you watch now.  Watch now, while I do it another way.  I’ll show you that, the same thing another way.  Now I want you to read.  Now that was the 10th chapter and the, and the 4th verse that you read there about ___ ___ forth in the Genesis.  Right?  Now, then I want you to do this.  I’ll have to cut this up.  I know the time is getting short and please ring the bell on me.  (BELL RINGS)  Well, the bell is rung (AUDIENCE LAUGHS).  But now I, I’ll just stick with this but I have to get these 2 verses read because I have to read them in order to make the connection.  Now this is what I’m doing:  there is a Lamb slain, they went through the Red Sea, they went into the wilderness and they built the tabernacle and been there 40 years and, and they went through River Jordan and went to Patmos, Canaan’s Land.  Is that right?

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now you went through.., the lamb slain here, they went through the water here and were in here 40 years, and then they come here, and they stayed here and passed through here and then resurrected.  Is that right?  Now I want the 21st chapter of Revelation read.

Reader:  And I saw a new heaven and a new earth.

Dr. Kinley:  Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth

Reader:  for the first heaven and the first earth

Dr. Kinley:  for the first heaven and the first earth

Reader:  were passed away.

Dr. Kinley:  were passed away.  Now look up here.  Now look, look right up here.  That’s what these charts are for.  She’s reading the Bible, you listen to her.  Read again.

Reader:  And I saw a new heaven and a new earth

Dr. Kinley:  Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth

Reader:  For the first heaven

Dr. Kinley:  For the first heaven

Reader:  and first earth

Dr. Kinley:  and first earth

Reader:  were passed away,

Dr. Kinley:  were passed away

Reader:  and there was no more sea.

Dr. Kinley:  Now you see and now there was no more sea, which means that, that, this is passed away down here, now they’re on this side, and there was no more sea.  I mean it, it’s written there – no more sea.  For the first heaven and the first earth was passed away and there was no more sea.  Now what happened there?  Now this is what I told you happened.  I told you after they got over here then Moses built that tabernacle in the wilderness.  Did I tell you that?

Audience:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  Is that what is says over there in Exodus

Audience:  Yes

Dr. Kinley:  Is, is that what it says?  I want to know?

Audience:  Yes

Dr. Kinley:  So, so, so I can get the thing straightened out.  Now if you can see what I am talking about, you can see these jackasses out there that don’t know anything about it.  Alright read.

Reader:  And I John saw the Holy City

Dr. Kinley:  And I John saw the Holy City

Reader:  New Jerusalem

Dr. Kinley:  New Jerusalem

Reader:  coming down

Dr. Kinley:  coming down

Reader:  out of heaven

Dr. Kinley:  Yahweh out of heaven

Reader:  prepared as a bride

Dr. Kinley:  prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.  Now this is what I have tried my best to tell you, that Joshua come down out of this mountain with Moses and he had seen that tabernacle and Moses had that tabernacle in his mind.  He saw it in that vision up there in that mountain and he was coming down out of that mountain, and that cloud covered, he’s coming down out with that tabernacle in his mind.  And Yahshua the Messiah was right along side with him in the person of Joshua.  Alright, read on.

Reader:  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying

Dr. Kinley:  And I heard a great voice out of heaven

Reader:  Behold the tabernacle of Yahweh is with men

Dr. Kinley:  Now look here Freddie.  Don’t you see Revelation is going forth right along here in Genesis.  Can’t you see that?  Are you so damn dumb you can’t see that?  The first heaven and the first earth were passed away and there’s no more sea and I saw, he heard the voice, and he saw, behold the tabernacle, it was on the other side of the Red Sea, there in the wilderness.  Is that right?


Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Is that almost right? 

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  John, all he’s doing is that, just setting out there looking back at the whole thing confirming.  Yahshua the Messiah comes along and that’s all He’s doing is confirming by fulfilling.  Now you got the Red Sea, it was no more sea.  He said he saw, I heard a voice out of heaven saying behold the tabernacle of Elohim is with men.  Is that right?

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Is that what he said.  Here in the wilderness beyond the Red Sea.  Now then, you’ve got to come up out of here and you’ve got to go through a river.  And you’ve got to go into Palestine.  All right, read the 22nd chapter

Reader:  And he showed me a pure river of water of life

Dr. Kinley:  he showed me a river of pure water

Reader:  of life

Dr. Kinley:  of life

Reader:  clear as crystal

Dr. Kinley:  clear as a crystal

Reader:  proceeding out of the throne of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  proceeding out of the throne of Yahweh

Reader:  and of the Lamb

Dr. Kinley:  and of the Lamb

Reader:  in the midst of the street of it

Dr. Kinley:  in the midst of the street of it

Reader:  and on either side of the river

Dr. Kinley:  and on either side of the river

Reader:  was the tree of life

Dr. Kinley:  was the tree of life.  Wait a minute folks.  Hold it.  Here in this tabernacle I got here walking around in and I’m this tired but I’m in the flesh as they were.  Yahweh dwelled, Elohim dwelled in this tabernacle.  And they crossed over the River Jordan, on either side of the river, was the tree of life.  Is that right? 

Audience:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Do you understand on either side of the river, the river Jordan and the Red Sea.  I’m, do you all understand how to put this Bible together, or anything at all about it?  Now that’s why Yahshua the Messiah when He came along, that’s what He was doing, was fulfilling.  Now listen folks, we are no more in the natural, we’re in the spirit.  We are walking in the spirit.  We’re not participating and fooling with no carnal ordinances.  We ain’t gonna wash nobody’s feet, you wash your own dirty feet.  And we ain’t going to be floating around out there in the polluted and contaminated waters of no river try to baptize you.  And we ain’t gonna be setting up smacking our jaws and drinking grape juice and eating crackers and think we’re eating the Lord’s Supper.  The Lord ain’t never said nothing to you about nothing like that.  It ain’t in the Book, I asked you to read it and as many folks as there are here, they oughta find it.  Now this is spiritual.  Now listen, let me say this to you and in conclusion.  You take the natural, you take the natural man, the natural make up, just like you said there, you saw the river of water of life flowing down from the throne clear as a crystal.  Isn’t that right?  Now look.  There’s a man right there folks, right there, there’s a body.  Did you ever hear tell of spinal fluid?  It flows down in your spinal column from your brain on down into your spinal column and it divides between one side and the other.  And on this side you have 12 and on the other side you have 12 ribs.  And that’s the 24 elders or the 12 tribes on each side is 24 elders.  And that you have 33 vertebrae, that’s one year, a vertebrae for each year that the Messiah walked around upright, then He was crucified and resurrected and raised from the dead.  And you walk around talking about, `I don’t know whether that story all about Jesus who resurrected from the dead and buried at night.’  And they said there the disciples came and stole Him away while they slept.  Okay and here you are every morning you get up and see the sunrise, and you see it set.  And you ain’t got sense enough to realize that that’s taking place showing you the resurrection.  Here’s the farmer out here just ___  ___ ___ ___ ___ planting a seed.  Now it’s plain to see if he didn’t think they was going to resurrect, he wouldn’t be out there doing that.  You have to know what’s going on.  ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ and all the speculation and everything is gone.  Now then you’ve got a, and you’ve got a 1, 2, 3.  1, 2, 3.  1, 2, 3.  1, 2, 3.  Well, just like that ark, Noah’s ark – got 3 stories ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ but it’s got 3 stories in it.  Now take an atom:  proton, neutron, electron.  Take a cell:  a nucleus, a nucleolus, a cell body.  Take you, you’re soul, body, and spirit.  Everything in the universe points to Yahweh our Elohim.  Everything points to Him.  And what He made it that way for is to blot out my and your ignorance and my superstition about things that we might arrive at a profound knowledge.  And Yahweh be thanked and bless you that He gave me a knowledge of the vision and the revelation that I might come along and show it to you.  I don’t have anything to boast of and I’m no smarter than nobody else and I wouldn’t have you to think that but I’ll say our Father that He’s smarter than all of you put together.  It’s not my will.  It’s not my intelligence and I hope you’ve gotten something out of it and Yahweh bless you.

Audience:  (APPLAUDS)


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