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17) 1967 CONVENTION: JULY 19,1967; 2 – 4-30 PM



by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley


Springfield, Ohio


recorded by Burbank Mitchell on reel to reel recording

transferred to 1 90 minute audio cassette


transcribed by Geraldine Rothstein

first proofreading: Michael Rothstein


second proofreading: International Public Relations Committee

approved by the International Public Relations Committee: 1997



1. … indicates that Dr. Kinley ended a word or a sentence without verbally completing it.

2. Audience comments are included only if more than one person responded or if Dr. Kinley was speaking directly to a specific person.

3. Unless emphasized by Dr. Kinley pause words have been left out of the transcript for the sake of ease in readability and comprehension (ah, see, you see, you see what I mean, you follow, is that right.)

4. ____ indicates an inaudible word or syllable

5. WORDS IN CAPITAL LETTERS are comments of the transcriber

First Speaker:  Dr. Carl F. Gross (California)

Second Speaker:  Willie Jones (Alabama)

Moderator:  At this time I would like to introduce to you the next speaker this afternoon.  The next speaker this afternoon will be the founder and dean of this institute, Dr. Henry C. Kinley, who’s also the author of the book, God, the Archetype, Original Pattern of the Universe.  Dr. Henry C. Kinley from Los Angeles, California.

Dr. Kinley:  Greetings in the bonds of peace.  I’m happy to be here and always to impart to you some spiritual knowledge, some profound knowledge, irrefutable knowledge of God.  Now I want.., now I’ve got a surprise for you.  And I wanna tell you what it is.  Now every time you turn around we are laboring, always laboring, getting out of this book and what not.  Now I want to tell you that the things that we want to tell you about and I refuse to try to tell you about it and having ____ and what not and it makes no difference whether you set out ____ over here or over there, why this is all a jumbled up mess.  Now what I want to tell you about is not a jumbled up mess.  And I do want you to hear, I want you to understand what I’m talking about.  Now here’s why.  First of all because I know that you haven’t heard nothing about it.  And I know that you don’t know nothing about it.  Somebody said, ‘who me?’  Yeah you. (DR. KINLEY AND STUDENT BODY LAUGH) I’ve asked that ____ up here.  Well now listen, listen close now.  Now I’m not gonna worry with those and you know that we got about a half hour or something like that.  So now I’m gonna give you some time this afternoon to go home and get your dinner or your supper and get it over with, and get back here and please come on back.

I’m warning you now, and I’m telling you now and you obey me this trip.  Get all of that done and face and all washed, and come right back, and come back.  Now we wanna go into some of those deep things that we have been talking about that we are going to do to seal you in your forehead.  And I don’t mean that some cherub sitting up on the side of your head.  That’s not what I’m talking about.  That’s not what I’m taking about.  But now we’re gonna begin to wrestle to seal you in your forehead or in your mind, reveal unto you some of the great deep secrets that will have to come from the Holy Spirit.  Now they’ll just have to come and you haven’t heard too much and don’t think too much about it.  And I have not told you too much about it.  So then we’re gonna work with that tonight.  Now have I, you remember I told you last night when you left here that we would start tonight, not this afternoon, tonight.  So I’m not gonna start this afternoon.  I’m gonna start tonight.

Now Dr. Jones just got through telling you about the bellyache and first one thing and then another and alibis and excuses.  Now quite a few people have approached me since I have been here.  They read these articles in the paper and so forth and so on.  And they have been talking about the many healings that I have performed.  And some are interested in healing, divine healing so that they can get about and go on their work and all.  Now look, I’m wanna tell you something about that.  Everybody that’s walking around on earth, and I’m not interested in what you got, everybody, this is not the body.  This is not your body, and if you don’t think, if you don’t think that God, that I’m just been trying to tell you about, will, I didn’t say maybe, and I do mean everybody, not just some folks.  And I’m not interested in what it is you, that you got.  How ____ hurts, none of that.  I wanna tell you this in no uncertain terms:  that God has done healed everybody.  And if you don’t believe that, you haven’t been of this teaching.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  You don’t know nothing about it.  ____ ____ been going on.  Now you remember I said everybody.  Not interested in what you got.  Now we wanna tell you about that.  And we been talking about the Age of Immortality and all those kinda things.  And don’t you believe it yet?  People will run up here and say, ‘look,’ hunt me up for a ____, since I been here.  Corner me off and ask me about these things and tell me about their affliction and what not.  Well what do you think I been talking about?  That’s all I been talking about.  Been trying to persuade you to believe that it is coming for everybody that believes.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  Everybody.  Now then, if we’re not gonna talk about that to everybody we just might as well shut up and close the thing down and go on home and forget about it.  That’s right.  But now we are gonna stop, ____ ____ ____ ____, got the government got the thing a little bit better and that’s why ____ back there.  Moved around and sit over there.  It’s better than it was.  It could be better.  Tests and everybody in here hear what I say?  ____ ____ ____.  Does my voice echo and vibrate?  When I turn my head so you can hear on that side over there?  Back there?  When I turn my head over here, can you hear around this way.  Well I don’t wanna talk to myself.  Can you hear it in the back?

Student:  Can’t hear very well.

Dr. Kinley:  Not so good bad there?

Student:  When you turn your head that way doc, we don’t hear you too well.

Dr. Kinley:  When I turn my head this way?

Student:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  I heard that there’s some of you that ____ turn you head first one way, then another in all ____ and a lotta this thing that has been said has echoed and vibrated and I didn’t hear ‘em myself and I know you didn’t.  So we don’t want to waste this time.  And that’s the reason why I am ____ to show it to you.  Now you come back, we’ll see you, we’re gonna let you go now.  And come on back this evening, bring all your friends and enemies.  And you come on back.

But one more thing I want to say to you.  When this place is capacitated or filled up we have to ____ the vibration.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  We’ll have to.  And you will hear better when it’s filled.  Then what you can.., when there’s a lotta empty seats in the back, first one place and another.  So now you be here, bring all of your friends, fill it up.  And I’ve warned you to begin with, we wanna go into things that you know nothing about the lecture.  Bring a.., Sister Hogan, are you here? (AN AIRPLANE FLIES OVER HEARD) ____ ____ ____ ____.  Okay, well that’ll take care of it.  Get some kind of ____ so we can get up on the stage ____, cause we want everybody to see what we’re gonna do, what we’re gonna work with.  So come and bring your friends.  Now listen, we don’t intend to get off of the line of the Bible.  So bring your Bibles, and now here’s some Bibles up here.  We don’t care what kind they are- So if you don’t have one, you can have some of these, some of these Bibles here.  But listen, they cost money, please put ‘em back.  I’d don’t have no money to buy no Bible with.  And so these Bibles, they were there and they belong to the school.  Please put ‘em back.  If you don’t have one, you can have it.  And then you come tonight and try, if you brought a Bible, or get one from the book store tonight. ____ your Bible ____.  Bring it on with you, there’s always somebody want to say what that man says is not in the Bible.  So now you come and bring it, try to be on time and all like that.  And give us some time to tell you what we want to tell you.

Now if the seats is too hard or you got some complaint of some kind there and there are hard, bring a pillow or something else, cause I want the attention up here.  Get comfortable, now if it goes to hurting then ____ ____.  Try to get as comfortable as you can so that your attention can be focused on what we are going to tell you about because there are things that have not been revealed to the majority of the people in the world.  Now is that clear?  Are you all clear?  So then let us conclude being dismissed.  Doctor Harris has a statement to make there.

Dr. Harris:  Dr. Kinley I just wanted to….

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