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by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley

Los Angeles, California

recorded by Edna Law

2 90 minute audio cassettes


Catalog #:  75.0115


transcribed by Norman and Dawn Mook

first proofreading:  Debi Maneeley

second proofreading:  Michael Rothstein

third proofreading:  Gerry Rothstein


fourth proofreading:  International Public Relations Committee

approved by the International Public Relations Committee:  1997



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Dr. Kinley:  As all of you know the order of this service on Wednesday night has been dedicated to speaking and asking, asking and answering questions relegated to the teaching.

Now I’m sure there’s a lotta things that people would like to know something about, know more about, most particular about our heavenly Father.  Then there’s some things that we do have to call your attention to that you might be aware and that is that it is Yahweh’s responsibility to send you somebody and to make known unto you what His purpose really is.  And it is your indispensable duty to hear it.

I recall that Yahshua the Messiah made this statement.  And if you so choose, I’ll look it up and have it read.  He said to the Sanhedrin Council, ‘Why do you call me,’ it’s in your King James version of the Bible, ‘Lord and Master?  And do not the things that I say.  Why did you do that?’  In other words He was Yahweh incarnated in a physical body.  And naturally His father, He bore His Father’s name, Yahweh.  And He did many things that just an ordinary man couldn’t do.  He had to do that in order to prove that He was the Son of Yahweh.

Now the simple thing, just minor thing that you should know, people often overlook and just go on just any kinda which way.  For example:  now everybody in this building has a mother and a father.  And they have taken their father’s name, even their mother has taken the father’s name.  Now why should you be so stupid and so ignorant, so contrary and delinquent to accept the fact that Yahshua the Messiah come in His Father’s name.  And if He came in His Father’s name, it’s a, it’s a matter of absolute impossibility…  Now you just simply don’t need no sense, you don’t need no college education to understand what I’m talking about now.  This is, this is teaching.  That’s what we intend to do tonight.  We’re not gonna put our finger in our ear and rare back and groan and moan and carry on like that.  We want you to know something for sure.  You’ve been deceived all of your life, and there’s a time and a season for everything under the heavens.  Now it’s time for you to stop being fooled and learn yourself some sense.

Now getting back to my statement there.  Now everybody in this building, you don’t need no education, you don’t need no sense, you know the Lord, God and Jesus Christ…  Now there’s no relationship to that at all.  Now you know that.  And something else I wanted to mention here too.  These TV preachers, and these great evangelists like Billy Graham and others that are told what these true names are and they go right on talking about Lord, God and Jesus Christ.  They go right on, don’t, don’t pay no attention to it.  But now look here, get what I’m saying now, there is not one Jewish rabbi on earth today, not a one on Earth today that don’t know that the name is Yahweh of our heavenly Father, Elohim is a title, and Yahshua is His Son’s name.  All of them know Billy Graham is wrong.  They know Rex Humbard is wrong.  They know all of these regular and television preachers, they know they’re wrong.  And some more for your information.  The name Yahweh has never been out of the Masoretic text of the Bible.  It hasn’t never been out.  Lord, God and Jesus Christ have never been in there.  Now those people, they will not accept correction.  We have sent them our work.  We sent ‘em a Holy Name Bible.

I want you to know that the Holy Name Bible that we teach out of was written and revised by A. B. Traina.  He is, or rather was the late A.B. Traina I should say because he’s now deceased, he is an Italian Jew of the tribe Nepher.  And they all know it.  Now it ain’t gonna do you no good to be come up with some contraries.  And wanna tell you this:  Yahweh’s not gonna accept it.  Now if you’re here tonight for the first time and this is the first time that you ever heard this, from tonight forward you are responsible.  Yahweh’s not gonna accept Lord, God and Jesus Christ out of you no more, after tonight.  Now you may think that He will, but He won’t.  You may think I don’t know what I’m talking about.  You may go out and consult somebody else and if they told you anything different than what I’ve told you, they’ve lied to you.

Now, there’s something else I wanna tell you, too.  And that is this:  this work and this school is the result of a divine vision and revelation that come from Yahweh.  Now I’ve made some pretty hard statements on this floor and I want to call attention to one of ‘em.  One of them is this:  if I don’t do the works of Him that sent me, and do the work that no other man can do, don’t you believe me.  Now that oughta be fair.

Now I’d like to say this:  just running around in the Bible reading chapter and verse here and there and what not, people think that, ‘well that man certainly is a well read man, a Bible read man.’  Every time almost I come to school somebody hand me some paperwork from some preacher.  I have some there tonight.  I haven’t read it, Doctor Dennis Droulard gave it to me.  And he said, right from the same book the man set up a thing, then turn around and tore it down.  He don’t even realize he’s done it.  Billy Graham and all the rest of ‘em do the same thing.  They can’t tell a story straight.  They don’t know when they’re disputing themselves.

And Rex Humbard.., I just might as well tell you how it is.  TV preachers sending a brood all the time for money.  Want somebody to send them money that he might carry the Word of the Lord on.  And I saw him on TV, I’m talking about what I saw.  I saw him on TV up over in Jerusalem.  He had them moving pictures of him and it was shown on TV.  And he was supposed to be right around the tomb where Yahshua, whom the world calls Jesus Christ, is built.  And he was over there talking about Jesus Christ.  Sister Estelle Ellenberg wrote him a letter, she’s setting here I guess in the congregation.  Now hold up your hand if you’re in here.  She ain’t here?  She’s a Jew.  David was a Jew.  Dr. Gross is a Jew.  But she wrote him a letter and called his attention to those names and what not.  And he wrote back and this is what he said.  He said if I were in Jerusalem, that he was, first he said he was aware of the name in being Yahshua.  And if he were in Jerusalem he would use that name.  Now that’s what he said.  Now we had the letter and we still do have it.   Well now the man just emphatically lied, cause he was in Jerusalem when he was there and he was using Lord, God and Jesus Christ.  That’s before he received our letter.  Now they don’t mind lying. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) They don’t mind lying and people are not wise enough to catch them in their lies.

Now Billy Graham, I want to mention about him too.  We sent him a Bible, Holy Name Bible written by A.B. Traina just like we have here.  And we sent him one of our books.  The first one he kept.  We didn’t have a Holy Name Bible to send him when he sent it back because the Holy Name Bible had not yet been printed.  That was in 1961, and the Holy Name Bible came out in ’63.  And so by and by and by when we got the next edition in ’69 and I think, when was the other one?  ’71?  We sent him a Holy Name Bible and the next edition.  I don’t know whether it was ’69 or ’71.  Which was it, Dr. Gross?

Dr. Carl F. Gross:  ’69.

Dr. Kinley:  ’69?  He sent it back.  Did he send it back?

Student:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  We got it at home.  Now suppose everybody that he sent that trash that he writes people about, back to him.  How would he feel about it?  Now that’s an insult.  And that, that, that’s a very poor Christian.  That doesn’t show any respect at all.  A man like that hasn’t got no business preaching the gospel.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  I read the literature from an atheist or an agnostic, an infidel, a liar or a hypocrite, or a back bitter, just anybody.  And I tell you all to do the same.

Dr. Kinley:  So you know what’s going on in the world.  Right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now here he is.  He’s so righteous, that he sent our work back.  Insult.  And yet and still he’s got books he wants somebody to read and so forth and so on.

Now you have a Negro on TV, that goes along with this program.  He’s one of his right hand preachers.  And Dr. Gross sent him some literature about those names.  The Negro I’m talking about, not Billy Graham.  I don’t want you to get that mixed up.  And so the Negro he kept it.  And then this edition of the book ‘Decision,’ the name Yahweh Elohim is in the book.  Is that right?

Now folks, I said all of that, to say this:  to make you understand and make you become aware of the fact that you simply have to hear those that Yahweh has sent to, to, to teach you.  You have to hear ‘em.  Now we have had a lot of this.  Somebody comes along and I may say something up here and then they might go home and get a book or something or other was written by Life magazine or some theologian or something other like that.  And then they bring it back and show it to me where I’m mistaken in what I said.  Show me where I’m wrong in what I said.  Well now you don’t do it that way.  Now you don’t, you just don’t do it that way, because I know how to prove what I say, they don’t.  And listen here, let me tell you something.  What I say and what I tell you, remember I told you I had a vision and a revelation don’t forget that.  And I communicate and I talk with Yahweh.  I don’t have to see nobody about nothing, I don’t care a thing about your education.  I have respect for everybody that has an education.  I think you should go to school and learn all that you can, both ways.  Nothing wrong with that, but you can’t take a college education or a university education and come down, come down here and correct Yahweh.  You can’t do that.  Now we’re not trying to be in harmony with none of ‘em.

We went a fishing today.  Doctor Gross, Doctor Harris and Joe Crockran, back there and Clarence Keyes.  We went fishing.  And we went out on the seven o’clock boat, that means that we have to be out there before that boat at seven o’clock.  And the sun was just peaking up, looked like it was coming up out of the water.  And we have seen it rise out there many times when we go a fishing.  And I said, ‘You see that sunrise over there today?  Today, do you see the sun rising over there?’  He said, ‘Yes, we certainly do.’  Now you just stop and think how many people at the age of accountability and that can recognize the sun and other objects, have seen the sun rise out there and all of their lives they never know why.  They don’t know a thing about why it does that.  You never heard nobody say nothing about it until you come in this school.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  You just never heard nothing like that.  Now how about that?  Now you see how simple that is?  Now you want somebody to come along and correct me on that?  You look in your paper and you see sunrise at such and such a so and so and sunset at such and such a time.  Now I brought that up, because…  Now what we wanna do in this school is to teach you in simplicity, so that you can understand some things.  Now that’s a very common thing, wouldn’t you say so?  There isn’t anybody in this building that has reached the age of accountability but what hasn’t seen the sun rise.  Surely seen it set.  But they don’t, you never heard nobody in your life say why it did that.  For the most part, the most of you never even thought nothing about it. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right.  Never even had a remote notion or an imagination about in your life.  Now how about that?  That’s something to think about.

Did you know it?  Look here.  Now you read the story in the Bible about Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.  Anybody, Billy Graham or Rex Humbard or anybody can read that.  Suppose we try to find it in the book of…  Let’s look it up and see.  And when Adam committed the sin, Yahweh drove him out of the Garden.  Now what time of day, for the most part don’t mean nothing to the folks.  And some of ‘em have the nerve to say that He drove the women out.  They’re think it’s true, but that’s not so.  Bible doesn’t teach that.  Possibilities are you’ve heard a preacher say that He drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden.  How about that?  The Bible does not say it.  Well why didn’t He drive her out of the Garden?  You never heard nobody say nothing about that either?  There’s just so many simple things that you never heard nothing about, nobody said nothing about.  They are important.  Now the reason why Yahweh didn’t drive the woman out of the Garden was because when He put the man in the Garden the woman was in him.  So when He drove the man out, the woman, she went on out too.  She went on out with him because she was with him when he went in there.

My goodness.  Alright.  Read.  What happened?  I’m talking about, first, before you read that, look at the third chapter of Luke and the last verse.  I wanna show you… (SOMEONE IS COUGHING) Bless you.  ____ ____ ____ ____ you’ve heard some smart aleck wanna show how smart he was.  He said he talked about the pre-­Adamic Earth.  He said the Earth was inhabited before Adam.  Human beings.  Pre-­Adamic human beings.  That’s not so.  Yes, there was some created creatures before Adam:  the Angels.  Won’t deny that.  But now this is what I want you to see.  I want you to see there that in the third chapter of Luke that this man Adam back here is the Son of Yahweh.  Would you mind?

Dr. Harris:  Which was the son of Enos

Dr. Kinley:  Which was the son of Enos.

Dr. Harris:  Which was the son Seth

Dr. Kinley:  Which was the son of Seth.

Dr. Harris:  Which was the son Adam

Dr. Kinley:  Which was the son of Adam.

Dr. Harris:  Which was the son of Elohim.

Dr. Kinley:  Which was the Son of Elohim.  Now that, those are pedigrees and genealogies.  Now he was a son of Elohim.  In your King James version it says that he was the Son of God.  Now you see He’s the Son of God?  Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Alright.  Now if He’s a son of God…  Now we wannna know.., this is all important, but the average preacher he don’t realize it’s important.  He don’t know nothing about it.  Millions upon top of millions of Roman Catholics and Protestants, they don’t know nothing about it.  And yet and still they read it out of the Bible.  Now I’ll tell what I talking about there.  When Yahshua, when this Passover was ate down in Egypt, it was dark down there.  Now just to show you the simplicity and the stupidity, the Roman Catholics they’ll have a mass on Sunday morning.  They ain’t paying no attention to what the conditions are, whether it’s dark or what not.  When you setting up there you don’t know.  You ain’t got no business eating no Lord’s Supper.  First place you haven’t got no business eating one now, as an ordinance.  The reason why I said that, tacked that on, was because if you eat anything at all it’s the Lord’s. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) ____ ____ you should be offended. (DR. KINLEY AND STUDENT BODY LAUGH) if you gonna get into something, let me ____ anyhow.  ____ ____ ____, understand what we’re talking about.  They’re showing you the simplicity of it and the ignorance and stupidity of man.

Now I want you to read here, what happens here when Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden and what time of the day or when did He drive him out of the Garden.  Now you’ve already found out that he was a son of Yahweh.  Alright.

Reader:  Therefore Yahweh sent him forth from the garden of Eden to till the ground from where he was taken.

Dr. Kinley:  Yes.

Reader:  So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the Garden of Eden cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way of the tree of life.

Dr. Kinley:  I want what time of day it is

Dr. Harris:  Genesis 3:8.

Dr. Kinley:  The eight verse and the third chapter.

Dr. Harris:  And they heard the voice of Yahweh Elohim as they were walking in the garden in the cool of the day.

Dr. Kinley:  Um Hum.  In the cool of the day.  Read on Dr. Harris.

Dr. Harris:  And the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of Yahweh Elohim amongst the trees of the garden.

Dr. Kinley:  Um Hum.  Now it reads on down there and it’ll tell everybody He’s driving him out.  Now did you notice it was the cool of the day?  Now it ain’t a prea…  ____ ____.  It don’t mean a thing to him.  Well God said it, the Bible said it, ‘so what.’  It don’t mean a thing to him.  Just like the evening Passover.  Now you can’t deny,  you can’t argue about that.  In the first place you don’t have no business eating it like that.  And if they was gonna eat the Passover lamb like this, like the Jews did.  And get this one straight now, get this one straight.  Wasn’t anyone in the history of the world supposed to eat it, but the Hebrews or the Jews.  No Gentiles at no time.  Listen now.  He wasn’t invited to the first Passover that was down in Egypt.  If it had been, then the Egyptians would have been eating it too.  Now pay attention, he wasn’t invited to the first one, then if Yahshua is gonna fulfill it when He comes in, he can’t be invited to the last one.  Now they haven’t stopped yet, they’re continuing on.  And Yahshua the Messiah said he wasn’t gonna eat no more with them.  So said, ‘well, we’ll just eat it by ourselves.’ (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) That’s right.  ‘And if He ain’t gonna be there to break the bread and break the wine and all I’ll just do it myself.’  How about that?  He said, He wasn’t gonna be there.  Is that what He said?

Student Body:  That’s right, that’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  And if you don’t think He said that, I’ll read.  And if you look at the 26th chapter of Matthew, you’ll find wasn’t anyone there but His disciples in the upper room.  And all the Jews all over Palestine and all over the place, they ate it.  And they’re out among the other nations, as they were scattered abroad, they ate their Passover outta the ____, the Jews I said.  No, never no Gentiles.  Now look folks, you can see by that, what we’ve just said.  First he doesn’t have any business eating it at all, the Jew don’t have no business eating it that way now.  Then, if that be the case…  And then he don’t know what, he forgets all about He ate at night.  He forgets who is supposed to be administering it, ordinance.  And at night, nobody but the Jews, this is the first one, listen, that’s the only Passover that the Jews ate.  All of the rest of ‘em was memorials of this one back here.

Now folks that’s a something to think about.  Now when you commence to sit down, I’m showing you the reality of Yahweh and His purpose and how far away men are, just how, how really far away they are.  It says that in everybody’s Bible that the Israelites was supposed…  Told Moses to speak to the Children of Israel, and take that lamb out on the tenth and offer it up on the fourteenth.  Is that right?  And that night they was to eat that Passover with their staff in their hands and ready to depart out of the land of Egypt.  Is that right?

Student Body:  That’s right…  In haste.

Dr. Kinley:  In haste.  That is right.  Now look folks, nobody but the Jews.  Now doesn’t that indict a lotta people?  And at that last Passover when Yahshua the Messiah was.., ministered that Last Supper.  That’s the last one.  Nobody but the Jews was there present.  And your pastor gets up and says this that Jesus said as often as we eat this bread and drink of this cup, we show forth His death and suffering til He come.  Now then if that be the case.  Now what he talked like, he talked like that Yahshua didn’t rise from the dead and he’s still just laying out there in the ground, but He did raise from the dead, and went right back up there, in the same place and Didymus or Thomas wasn’t there.  And he said he won’t believe that He resurrected from the dead until he sees for himself.  Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  And Yahshua the Messiah just appeared there, and told him to stick his hands and his fingers in the nail prints and see that it is I Myself.  Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now he didn’t stick his fingers in there or his hands in the nail prints, but when he looked at Him, he recognized Him.  And a lotta people, they haven’t even known anything about that.  They don’t know why that was or nothing.  It was a fulfillment of prophecy, saying the prophecy said, He shall be called, somebody says, ‘wonderful counsel.’  No.  He ain’t right.  He shall be called Wonderful.  He shall be called Counselor, the Prince of Peace, the mighty Elohim.  Is that right?

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  I tell you.  And yet and still you come down here and sit up down here.  And somebody tell you about it, and you get up and run up yonder somewhere else.  Wasted your time and paying some hypocrite preacher.  You’re just going right on to heaven any how.  Yes sir, you’re going right on anyhow.  We tell you about things you shouldn’t do; go ahead on and do it anyhow.

Now look folks.  At this present time in the conclusion or the end of this age, now there are those that say that they have been sent in by Yahweh:  Herbert Armstrong for one.  And Sun Myang Moon too, Bauhia, course he’s dead now.  That’s of the Baha faith.  That guru that was over here.  And none of ‘em know straight up.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s right.  ____ ____ ____  Now let me get back on this subject.  Now you remember I told you that we stood and we seen the sunrise out there this morning.  And it looked like it was coming up out of the Pacific Ocean, didn’t it, Doctor Harris?  And as it peeked up over the horizon, you could look at it, even without sunglasses.  And it rose on up in the sky, reached it’s zenith, that is to height in the sky directly over head.  And then next it begin to go down.  It rose in the east and then it set down, or sun down in the west, but when it sun rose, that was day.  The light Yahweh called day, the darkness He called night.  Now that son rising out there in the sky, listen folks, that showed the resurrection of the Messiah.  Now how many of you knew that before you come to school down here.  Stand up.  You have to help me a little. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) How many of you knew that?  Now somebody might say, ‘well now look, where does the Bible say that?’  Well now look, we read there in the Book where He sent the angel that drove the man out in the cool of the day.  And the angel had a flaming sword to keep that way so that man couldn’t go back in that way and take of the Tree of Life.  Now if you look at that flaming sword and the angel’s a ministering spirit, then you got up on this spirit line.  That what you done.  You got right up on this spirit line.  Now the sun in the sky, in the ethereal heavens, when it’s going down, Yahweh shows this man is going on to the grave.  He was instantaneously condemned in his conscience or dead.

Now what I’m trying, now what I’m trying to do.  I’m trying to show you how that Yahweh will judge the world in righteousness.  And how simple and how easy it is for you to understand when somebody comes along that Yahweh has, has sent to you.  There’s no problem to explain.  Now you don’t get this by going to college.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  Alright.  Now the man, the sun is going down here in the sky.  And the son, S U N and S O N are together here.  They’re coming down.  And they come out here to work in the sweat of his face.  And then he goes on down to lose his life or to death, ____, the life of the flesh.  Now then you got blood, water, and spirit.  Now follow, follow.  Now, the reason why I’m telling you this, now I’m just telling you things that’s in your Bible and that you never heard the preacher say nothing about in your life.

Now, this is the Garden of Eden.  Now we come over here.  This is the Garden of Gethsemane.  One thing has to correlate with the other.  It has to operate that way.  For what reason?  To prove the divine authenticity, listen, the unerring accuracy, the absolute infallibility, and the eternal existence of our heavenly Father, Yahweh.  Read Romans 1:18, 19, and 20.  Now I’m showing you why they operate like this.  And I expect to show you something here before I get off of this floor.  Simple things that your great academically trained, philosophical and psychological minded theologians of today don’t know the first thing about it, and stand up and look at it every day.  They don’t know why a man is made up like he is.  And if you ask him, say, ‘why did Yahweh make a man like he is?’  ‘Well,’ he said, ‘He made in, in His likeness and in His image, after the inner man.’  Yet, they don’t know nothing about the outer one.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now how’s he gonna know something about the inner man?  I’m telling you it makes me sore sometimes.  I really get sore about it, this stupidity.  And you trying, the loved ones, you’re trying to rescue them because you realize the wrath of Yahweh.  You’re trying to pull ‘em out of the fire, and they just keep going on anyhow.  ‘Well I’m going on, if I’m lost, I’m gonna have plenty of company going to the lake.’  Yeah, you’re gonna have plenty company going both ways, but that’s no justifiable reason or excuse for you to go to the Lake.  And I’ll promise you, you won’t be so happy about it either.  They got these canned answers.  ‘When did God create the heaven and earth?’  ‘Genesis 1:1, in the beginning.’  That’s the catechism, catechism.

Oh my goodness.  And Jesus, He’s coming back.  I’ll put, I’ll put it this way.  Sun Myan Moon said this and Jehovah’s Witnesses are saying this:  in 1975, this year I don’t know how many of you are looking for it, say this year that Christ shall come back to earth again and set up His kingdom on the earth and then He’ll clean this world up and straighten it out.


Dr. Kinley:  And you that are saints will reign with Him one thousand years.  Now that’s what you call the pre millennium.  And then some say, ‘no, He’ll come only part of the way down,’ that’s the fourth chapter of first Thessalonians and the sixteenth verse, for the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with the voice of an archangel and the trump of God:  and the dead in Christ shall rise first.  And they which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air.  He don’t come all the way down to the earth.  Now some got Him coming all the way down to the ground and ruling down here for a thousand years and some got Him caught up in the sky.  Then they went on back to heaven with the righteous folk and left the wicked dead laying out there in the cemetery.  And then a thousand years after they come back and resurrect the dead, the wicked dead. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) And then there goes the living.  I’ll tell you a carnal minded is a…  Now there ain’t nothing like that in no Bible.  All that’s wrong.  Okay read.

Dr. Harris:  For the wrath of Yahweh is revealed from heaven

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen, even tonight the news talked about an earthquake.  Now all of these earthquakes, do you know what they represent?  Do you know why they are?  They signify what?  The removal, now don’t ____ ____ ____, I will read it, signifies the removing of the…  Don’t pay no attention to nothing…  I don’t care who it is.  We just gonna go on our way about it…  Now you are right down in the last prophetic moments of this age and it definitely will ____.  Alright read.

Dr. Harris:  For the wrath of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  For the wrath of Yahweh.  Listen we are always talking unity.  I’ll put it this way.  There’s a school called unity.  They are always talking about God so, John 3:16, God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  The love of God, of God surpasseth all understanding.  All the love, but listen here folks, the wrath is as great as His love.  You can’t take it.  Yes indeed, the wrath is as great as His love.  It won’t be funny then.  And listen let me tell you something else.  Now you pay attention.  While you’re going on with your stubbornness and your hard head…  And I want you to know this too.  Everybody in this building, don’t make no difference who you are and where you come from.  And everybody outside of the building, that oughta be.., and all over the world has to be changed, changed from a mortal to an immortal.  Now there is no such thing as you gonna fry and sizzle and burn in this physical body forever.  That ain’t gonna happen.  It wouldn’t last that long.  Now everybody in the building talking about, and it concerns you, the wrath of Yahweh is revealed from heaven against what?

Dr. Harris:  Against all impiety

Dr. Kinley:  Against all the unrighteousness.  And what else?

Dr. Harris:  Against all impiety and unrighteousness of man

Dr. Kinley:  And unrighteous of Billy Graham.

Dr. Harris:  No, of men.

Dr. Kinley:  and others.  Of man.  Therefore

Dr. Harris:  Who hold the truth in unrighteousness

Dr. Kinley:  You can tell ‘em what it’s all about and they’ll go right on just the same.  You ever heard of that?  And Yahweh’s revealing His wrath from heaven against it.  And there’s something else here I’d like to say about this and don’t you forget it.  Don’t you ever forget this, as long as you live and breath:  Yahweh raised up a people of the seed of Abraham, the Jews.  You don’t read nothing in your Bible about no Gentiles having no visions and revelations.  Now how about that?  So now the reason why I brought that up is to try to show you that the.., all the covenants, the doctrines and everything of Yahweh was given to the Jewish people to give to the Gentiles.  Don’t you forget that.  And He raised ‘em up specifically for that purpose.  Now here comes every Gentile along, he knows more about God than a Jew or anybody else ____.  He’s around trying to convert the Jew.  That’s right.  Trying to tell the Gentiles, the Jews, the Gentiles are trying to tell the Jews and Lord, God, and Jesus Christ ain’t right.  The wrath of Yahweh is revealed from heaven against all impiety or unrighteousness of men.  They oppose the truth in unrighteousness.  Read on.

Dr. Harris:  Because that which may be known of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  Because that which may be known of Yahweh.

Dr. Harris:  Is manifest in them

Dr. Kinley:  Is manifested in them.

Dr. Harris:  For Yahweh has showed it unto

Dr. Kinley:  Now I just got through telling you.  Yahweh has revealed it to the Jews.  Now if you want me to read over here in the tenth chapter of Romans about that, I can do it.  It’s in there.  And they will tell what they saw in the visions and the revelations.  The Holy Spirit was poured out on them on the day of Pentecost.  And they were told to go in all the world and go to the Gentiles and preached unto the Gentiles.  And seven years later came in to Cornelius’ household.  The Holy Spirit was poured out on them.  Now listen, then the Gentiles was adopted into the family of Yahweh.  Now wait a minute, I don’t want you to misunderstand me, cause it is easy to misunderstand me.  You didn’t have the faith tonight you ain’t been adopted in, in the.., and neither was the Jews.  Now Paul says, put it this way, fifteenth chapter of first Corinthians fiftieth verse.  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of Yahweh; you understand that?  Now your flesh and blood.  And now if Jesus was supposed to come back and set up His kingdom on earth, then it would be an earthly kingdom, and then flesh and blood couldn’t enter.

Student Body:  Um em

Dr. Kinley:  Now that means neither the Jew or the Gentile.  Now how about that?  I’ll tell you the devil is a dilly, you know that?  And look here Jehovah’s Witness going around building Kingdom halls too.  Now ain’t the something?  Maybe even some of you might not think that that’s in the Bible as I tell you, read it Dr. Harris and then come back were you started at.  First Corinthians 15:50 I think it is.  I told you about Pope Pious the twelfth, what he said.  Alright read it.

Dr. Harris:  1 Corinthians 15:50

Dr. Kinley:  1 Corinthians 15:50.

Dr. Harris:  Now this I say brethren….

Dr. Kinley:  Now that’s Paul talking.  And.  Now this I say brethren.

Dr. Harris:  That flesh and blood.

Dr. Kinley:  That flesh and blood.

Dr. Harris:  Cannot inherit the kingdom of Yahweh.

Dr. Kinley:  That the flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of Yahweh.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  Neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Dr. Kinley:  Neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.  That’s the reason why I told all you about these changes and it’s our inner man that enters into the Kingdom, not the physical, not flesh and blood.  Now when you stop and look into that mystery, then you come with some surprises again.  Now here’s the surprises that you come with.  You got the black folks out there, they’re talking about black supremacy.  And here the white folks out there talking about white supremacy.  But I’ll have you to understand there ain’t no black folks in the kingdom and there ain’t no white folks in the kingdom.  Now how about that?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now don’t go away, don’t go away telling you didn’t learn something tonight. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) No, don’t do that.  No don’t do that.  Now just let me tell you something else.  Now you know good and well you learned something already.  ____ ____.  Yes indeed. (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS) Alright.

Don’t forget the subject now, we’re talking about sunrise and sunset.  And they telling you how the wrath of Yahweh is revealed from heaven.  Hey, don’t you know the sun is a planet out there in heavens and the moon and the stars, the elements.  How about that?  And Yahweh created them.  And we told you many times they are controlled by universal spirit law.  And Yahweh made ‘m that way to manifest and reveal Himself.  And the ____ to reveal His purpose, and mankind setting around there looking at it all of their life and he ain’t had even a good imagination about it.  Read on Dr. Harris.

Dr. Harris:  For the invisible things of him.

Dr. Kinley:  Now look, you can’t see this, for the invisible things of Him.

Dr. Harris:   From the creation of the world.

Dr. Kinley:  Now clear on back to the creation of the world

Dr. Harris:  Are clearly seen.

Dr. Kinley:  Now you can see invisible things.  If you have somebody to show it to you.  If you don’t have nobody to show it to you, you can’t see it.  How about that?  Matter of fact just like I just got through telling you, you saw the sunrise and set all of your life, you didn’t have no idea why.

And listen here.  We have a convention coming up.  And you have heard Dr. Mitchell.  Now the way they was doing in New York, see I’m gonna bring this up, just to show you some of the errors and mistakes and how you can miss the boat setting right up here in the church, just right up here in school, in church, you got what… (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) This is a school, ain’t it?  Now, they’re going in and set around til they saw everybody was there and then they start off to preaching and teaching, they didn’t have no songs and prayers or nothing like that.  ____ ____ ____, why what’s wrong here?  They do it in all the rest of the schools.  ‘Why don’t you do it over there?’  ‘Well, we just cut out that and get right into the teaching.’  ‘Well, say fella, this is part of the teaching.’  Now to show you that it is part of the teaching, when the high priest offered up this sacrifice, this is a daily thing too.  ‘And another thing,’ they said, ‘well listen, we’re, we’re just trying to get away from repetition.  Yahshua said don’t use vain repetition.’  Now does the sunrise in the east and set in the west everyday?  Is that a vain repetition?

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  Don’t the seasons of the year come around all the time?

Student Body:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  Is that vain repetition?

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  The high priest was told to offer up the sacrifice and go in there every day at the same time:  nine o’clock in the morning, 12 at noon, and also at three o’clock in the afternoon, burn that incense on there.  That was called the hour of prayer and the rest of ‘em was out there around the tabernacle praying.  ____ ____, they didn’t have the Holy Spirit.  Now was that a vain repetition?

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  Not that was the service.  Now what we are doing and the reason why we do them things is because of this.  So they said, they were getting right into the teaching, ____ ____ ____, missing the boat all together, this is a part of the teaching.  ‘Well,’ said, ‘well we don’t do this this way.’  ____ ____ ____, we don’t burn no incense and while they was praying around the outside of the tent and having prayers nine o’clock, and 12, and three in the afternoon.  Paul said pray without ceasing.  Now how about that?  ____ told to live in that attitude.  This is a type and a shadow and it’s a reality ____ ____.  Oh, you can miss the boat so bad.  Alright read on Dr. Harris.

Dr. Harris:  For the invisible things of Him

Dr. Kinley:  For the invisible things of Yahweh.

Dr. Harris:  From the creation of the world.

Dr. Kinley:  Now look here now, all the way on back to the creation.  Now this is what I’m trying to tell you now.  I talked about the sun rising out there.  And I talked about the sun reaching it’s zenith in the sky and I talked about the sun setting.  And then I, what I’m trying to show you is this, the purpose of Yahweh is making the thing doing His job.  And there make ‘em great smart preachers.  Eternal power and, or supernal nature, or the godhead as you have in the King James version of the Bible.  So that you can look right at it and see it.  The sun’s out there rising and setting and you looking right straight at it.  And them evangelical preacher he’s up there preaching and walking and slapping and moaning and groaning and stomping and hollering, kicking and screaming and carrying on.  And you, haven’t even no, no idea about the godhead.  That’s right.  The wrath of Yahweh is shaking up the world.  And he’s getting ready ____ ____, right on right on, ____ one thing just like the other one.  ____ ____.  Alright.  Now the invisible things of him are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made.  Man in his likeness and image.  So you wouldn’t have no excuse.  That’s the internal and external.  Alright.  So that you wouldn’t have no excuse.  Now listen, Why don’t you try to take some of these words home.  Now it won’t do for you to go up in Yahweh’s face, like the devil and say, ‘well listen Yahweh, I didn’t know.’  He went and did all these things so you won’t have no excuse.  You see that now?  Removed your excuse.  One said, ‘well, I’m a Jew.  I, I, I.’  Somebody else said, ‘well, I’m a Jehovah’s Witness or I’m a whatever, I’m a Roman Catholic.’  Don’t make no difference what you are, these invisible things and you can understand these invisible things by the thing that Yahweh has made.  That’s gonna judge the rest in righteousness.  And you ain’t gonna have no excuse, ain’t gonna accept no excuse.  Somebody said, ‘well, I don’t think that Dr. Kinley is sent of God,‘  That ain’t gonna excuse you.  That ain’t gonna help you one bit.  I didn’t put that sun out there in the sky, Yahweh did that.  And Yahweh’s gonna accept this body and he can get in it, if he wants to.  Now wait a minute, now let’s get this thing straight.  Now it’s gonna be one or the other Yahweh or the devil gonna be.  Now you can’t talk.  Now you can know that.  This is His house and He can dwell in it or else the other boy does.  How about that?  And no hanging on the fence.  Alright, read on Dr. Harris.  For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Yahhead, Godhead.  Now look, now, now I’m through with that, I’m through with that.

Now look over there in, I think in Malachi, Freddie you grab that ____, said the contrite ____ ____.  And so when Yahshua the Messiah was crucified out there on the cross.  Malachi

Fred Allen, Jr.:  4 and 3.

Dr. Kinley:  Now what I’m telling you now is:  this sunrise…  Now somebody get the 27th chapter of Matthew I think it is were that Yahshua the Messiah was crucified.  Now pay attention, pay attention.  And those men down at the tomb, these men at the tomb.  They went up to the Sanhedrin Council and told them that He had resurrected from the dead just like He said He would do.  And they told them, said, ‘now look, we don’t want this report to get out, because if this report gets out, then our the last error will be worse than the first.’  They crucified Him.  And when they crucified Him, the earth trembled and shook.  Now I’ll have you know that the earth is moving around the sun, they think.., there’s been some question about it.  The earth moves around the sun, out there in Joseph’s new tomb.  Yes, it shook, it shook.  Twice it did that.  When He was crucified and then those men that crucified Him out there, Roman soldiers, they looked at Him and they said that He has, certainly He was the Son.  And they said, ‘truly He was the S O N and the ____.  Alright read.

Reader:  Malachi 4:2.

Dr. Kinley:  Malachi 4:2.  Now this is what we’re talking about?  We’re talking about the sun in the sky in the ethereal heavens, or this is over here if you see it.  We’re talking about the sun in the ethereal heavens and the Son hanging out there on the cross.  That’s two sons.  We’re talking about the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the visible things; in other words these two are operating together.  Remember, when he was driven out of the Garden the sun was going down.  At His death, has been crucified for our sins or the sins or the whole world.  I’m talking about the Adamic Transgression back there, that caught us all under sin.  And then it starts to turn dark over the face of the earth from the sixth to the ninth hour.  Well why did it turn dark over…  Don’t you see, He’s coming outside of the Garden and the sun’s going down, don’t you see the blood running out of His body and the sun, both of ‘em going down together.  Now if they’re going down together, they got to come up together.  Read Malachi.

Dr. Harris:  But unto you that revere my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings.

Dr. Kinley:  Spell that sun.

Dr. Harris:  S U N.

Dr. Kinley:  The Jew that revered His name, shall the sun S U N of righteousness rise.  Sunrise.  You heard me, you ain’t blind.  Son rise with healing in His wings.  Yes, we’ll roll the stone up to door and we’ll make the sepulchre sure because that deceiver said that He was gonna rise from the dead on the third day.  And he’ll take a little change.  Why?  To tell the thing out there that the, is that His disciples come and stole Him away.  Well look here fella, don’t you see that that Sun is risen in the sky out there?  That’s too hot.  Far too hot for them to handle or come and steal away.  So then they’re.., both of ‘em are hooked together, if you can’t steal one, you can’t steal the other.  How about that?

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now of course your Pastor told you all about that.

Student Body: (LAUGHS) No Way!

Dr. Kinley: (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS) He seen the sun rise too, but he didn’t know a thing about it.  He don’t know nothing about what it’s all about.  Now if His disciples come and stole Him, they said there in the 27th chapter, I believe it was.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  28th chapter.

Dr. Kinley:  28th chapter.

Dr. Harris:  Starting at the 12th verse.

Dr. Kinley:  Starting at the 12th verse.

Dr. Harris:  And when they were assembled with the elders and had taken counsel they gave large money unto the solders, saying say ye His disciples came by night and stole him away while we slept.

Dr. Kinley:  Um-hum.

Dr. Harris:  And if this come to the governors ears

Dr. Kinley:  And if this comes to the governors ears

Dr. Harris:  We will persuade him and secure you.

Dr. Kinley:  See that.  See that needling thing in there.  We’ll go persuade him for say your security or for your protection.  And then what happens?

Dr. Harris:  So they took the money

Dr. Kinley:  So they took the money.  That’s what they been doing all along, taking your money. (DR. KINLEY AND STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) They ain’t told you nothing about, no ain’t told you nothing about that.  Don’t know a damn thing about it. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Alright read on.

Dr. Harris:  So they took the money and did as they were told.

Dr. Kinley:  And they did as they told.  Now you down here to the college and the seminary, and then you come back and do as you were told.  And they don’t know down in the college what’s going on, and neither do you.  And then here you are just doing what you were told, how to raise money.  First one thing and then the other, doing as you’re told.  Alright read on.

Dr. Harris:  And this thing is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

Dr. Kinley:  Now see.  Now this thing is commonly reported among the Jews til this day.  Now if you would ask the Pope of Rome, Jehovah’s Witnesses, or the Baptists or the Methodists how they would prove the resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah.  You know what they would do?  What they would do, they’d run in here with these verses.  Said, ‘the Bible says so.’  That ain’t gonna get it.  That ain’t gonna get it.  So they ____, ‘I don’t believe the Bible.’  Now read on there.  And that thing was reported and is commonly believed among the Jews until that day.  Is that what it said there?  Alright, so read it.

Dr. Harris:  So they took the money and did as they were taught

Dr. Kinley:  And did as they were taught.

Dr. Harris:  And this thing is commonly reported among the Jews until this day

Dr. Kinley:  Now until that day that that was written.  Now they been standing out there and clear on up until this day, standing out there looking at the sun rise and the sun set.  And didn’t know a thing about why it did that.  That’s my present.  How about that?  You see that?  How’m I doing?  Am I doing alright.  Now that’s bringing the thing up to date.  Now that.., the thing has to be brought up to date for your protection.

You got to know how this thing works.  Show me.  Listen here, I believe it’s the tenth chapter of Romans and about the 15th verse.  It says something like this.  Faith comes by hearing, and that by the Word of Elohim.  Now if you never heard that before and you’ve been preached to all your life, you don’t know why the sun rose and set.  Now when He tarried on earth forty days after His resurrection.  You You don’t know, they don’t know nothing about why He tarried on earth for forty days before He ascended.  Then somebody said, ‘Well He just tarried on earth forty days and forty night.  Your Bible says it.’  And we had a debate with the Church of Christ down there.  And they said that, I said that the Holiness tarried on earth forty days and He ascended into heaven and the Holy Spirit was poured out ten days after.  And they said that was wrong.  And Reverend Hogan come back and said, ‘I beg your pardon, you was right about that.’  See they don’t know a thing, they ain’t got no idea about nothing.

Now listen here folks.  Every little jot and every little tittle, we know what it’s all about.  When ever Yahweh puts one of them things on you, they all can’t touch ‘em.  And he’ll bring out some new things to you that you knew nothing what so ever about it.  So now Yahweh’s, just proving the Resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah.

Now let me tell you this.  Now listen close.  Now when the apostles went around in the synagogues and preached the resurrection of the dead, did you know that’s one of the places they had the most of their problems.  And not only that, did you know that we had a look at the house Shonefeld wrote saying this; that the Messiah was doped as He hung out there on the cross.  And that He was so doped or drugged heavy and then after that dope wore off then He come out of the tomb.  And look, he had the nerve to say that he isn’t in heaven, like a lotta people think He is.  And He was running around on the earth there, and got to be a ripe old age.  Now you see how that Yahweh’s made him, calling Him a liar everyday?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Do you see that?  The sun rose, the Son rose out of the tomb in the day, rose from the dead.  He ascended from the Mount of Olives.  And those two men stood by.  Why standed the two men by?  It’s because of the two cherubims of glory here.  And He said He would dwell between the wings of the cherubim.  So then now here He is, He’s got to come out here in the mount, the mountain in the high place.  Here in the Most Holy Place is as a eye in the most elevated state.  So now here He comes out here and He ascends from the Mount of Olives.  Raised up His head.  Now the Mount of Olives is taller than Jerusalem.  I stood on it myself.  I stood…  Were you, were you there with me, Doctor Harris?  Doctor Harris and Doctor Mitchell and Wilbur Traynham.  We took two pictures of it.  They stood there and I raised up my hands.  And they took pictures of it over Jerusalem.  Now the Mount of Olives is up there taller than Mount Moriah.

Dr. Harris:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  So these two, their feet, they stood on the Mount of Olives. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) I tell you folks.  Now have you gotten anything at all.

Student Body:  Oh yeah.

Dr. Kinley:  Do you see that?  You see that everyday.  Yahweh called these folks a liar.  And did you notice that the Jews, they believe until the day that Matthew, which is about 20 years later, wrote that epistle.  They said that was written that His disciples come and stole Him away; which means that they didn’t understand.  Why Yahweh had put them things out there in the sky.  And the sun rise.  And then it ascended, that’s the reason, went on up to it’s zenith, and then after that, I wouldn’t miss this for nothing, He ascended on into Heaven and sit down at the right hand of the Father.  Whence we look for Him again.  Is that what the Book said?

Student Body: Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Ascended on in there and sit down at the right hand of the Father.  And now you didn’t understand that, you didn’t understand the sun rise, sun at zenith, and sun down, and here it’s out there every day.  Do you see what it means?  This same day.  That’s what this means folks.  And now, one these days, one of these days, there’s gonna be a some changes made, and you’re gonna have to come face to face with the thing just like I just now told you.  And you’re gonna be surprised how stupid your preacher was and how little you knew about it.  He don’t know the why’s of the this that and the other.  And all ofem are guilty, they’re all guilty.

Now I realize that, and then I’m through trying to teach.  I realize it looks bad for me to stand up and say that I’m the man that Yahweh sent in the world in the close of this age to tell you people the truth.  I, I realize it.  I know it looks bad, and I want you to realize something else.  Do you realize that I said, and the tenth chapter of Romans says so.  Maybe you better look at it, and let’s show it that those adopted and those covenants were given to the Jews.  Now people look at me, say, ‘well you’re a Gentile, you’re not a Jew.  So then how is it that you’re gonna have a vision or revelation.  You said all the visions and the revelations were given to the Jews back there.’  I did say that too.  Yes sir.  The Book says so.  How about that?  Well it said, somebody said, ‘well that knocked you out.’  No.  No.  Here’s where the generations cease at.  There ain’t no more flesh after that at, I thought I told that flesh and blood wouldn’t inherit the kingdom.  You forgot that.  We ain’t walking after the flesh no more.  We don’t know no man after the flesh.  We don’t even know Yahshua the Messiah after the flesh to say nothing about you.  How about that?  So then Yahweh is justified in giving me, you say a Gentile.  Now how about that? (DR. KINLEY AND STUDENT BODY LAUGH) On this side of the cross.  Yes indeed.  It’s wonderful ain’t it?

Student Body:  Yes.

Dr. Kinley:  Then not only that.


Dr. Kinley:  Then what are we?  Alright read.  Read what we are first.

Dr. Harris:  First John fourth chapter.

Dr. Kinley:  First John fourth chapter.  Read what we are.  Now look folks, your pastor can get out that and read the Bible and he’s gonna read the same thing and then talk about you being a ____.


Dr. Kinley:  A saint is one that’s canonized in the Roman Catholic Church.  A Christian is the one that believes in Christ and we don’t.  Third chapter.

Dr. Harris:  Behold what matter of love the Father hath bestowed upon us.

Dr. Kinley:  What matter of love is this the father has bestowed upon on us.

Dr. Harris:  That we should be called the sons of Yahweh

Dr. Kinley:  That we should called Zionists.

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  Roman Catholics.

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  Presbyterians.

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  Saints.

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  Christians

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  How about that?  I told you not to go ahead and say that you didn’t learn something.  See that now?  Ain’t no saints going no whereAin’t no Christians going no whereAin’t now flesh and blood going no where.  There ain’t no ____ in no ____.  How about that?  Now you see what that really will do that would knock the Black Muslims out, the Klu Klux Klan.  And say listen for information we’ve got some Black Muslims in this organization, in this school.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  I don’t mean they’re that now, but they were when they came in.

And look, down home too, I mean down South, in Birmingham we have some Klu Klux Klan in the class. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) How about that?  Wouldn’t that stagger your imagination? (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Yes indeed.  The Klu Klux Klan is sitting up there preaching the gospel.  Why then ____ ____. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Yes indeed.  Yahweh reaching over there and getting up a Klu Klux Klan member, reach over here and get a Jew, get a Gentile, reach over here and get a Black Muslim, and reach over there and get a Black Panther. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Just anything.  ____ ____ preach the gospel with corn bread sent down from heaven.  And they all speak the same thing.

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  All perfectly joined together in the same mind and the same ____.  The ____ ____.  And listen folks, and on top of all that, listen at me, what I’m gonna say now.  All of ‘em got Yahweh written, not, not the Lord God.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Got Yahweh, Yahshua wrote right up there in his forehead, and in his hand.  Every last one, and all called by the same name, both families in.., angels, oh boy.  What would it look like when a angel.., picking him up and dunking him in some water down there.  Talking like that is stupid.  You know that?  I’ll tell you.  No, but all is right in that same family.

And all preach the same thing, all perfectly joined together by the same mind and the same spirit, but we got some of everything in this school.  Yes indeed.  This gospel will really straighten you out.  It’ll straighten you up.  Yes indeed.  And if you obey, listen folks, if you’ll obey the gospel, you will be happy, but as long as you’re fooling around and rejecting and going on your our stubborn way, there’s no way under the sun for you to be happy and your conscience to be clear.  There is such a thing as being saved and there is such a thing as being lost.  Now what you have to do:  you have..,  it says this, husbands.., we’re fixing to get in trouble now, husbands love your wives, even as Yahshua the Messiah also, that’s the fifth chapter in Ephesians in the 25th, 24th, 22nd verse I think it is, husbands love your wives…  Now we’re fixing to get in trouble.  Said, ‘you have done alright up until now.  Now you’re fixing to make a mess out it.’  Husbands love your wives even as Yahshua the Messiah also loved the church, and gave Himself for it; that He might sanctify and cleanse it by the washing of the water by the Word.  Are you looking in your Bibles?  I know know what’s in there.  That He might present it unto Himself a glorious church, all wrinkled up and full of holes.

Student Body: (LAUGH) No.

Dr. Kinley: (LAUGHS) Read on Dr. Harris.

Dr. Harris:  not having spot, or wrinkle

Dr. Kinley:  not having spot, or wrinkle

Dr. Harris:  or any such thing

Dr. Kinley:  or any such thing

Dr. Harris:  but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Dr. Kinley:  But that it should be holy and without blemish.  Read on.

Dr. Harris:  So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies.

Dr. Kinley:  So ought to, he didn’t say they did, He said they ought to. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) And if they don’t they ought to, said, love your own wife too. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Don’t get that messed up.  Don’t be loving somebody else’s wife.  So ought men to love his own wife, just like Yahshua the Messiah loved His own church or His own wife.  Read.

Dr. Harris:  He the loveth his wife, loveth himself.

Dr. Kinley:  Now, he that loveth his wife, loveth himself.  Read on Doc.

Dr. Harris:  For no man ever yet hated his own flesh.

Dr. Kinley:  Now no man ever yet hated his own flesh.

Dr. Harris:  but nourisheth and cherisheth it,

Dr. Kinley:  but nourisheth and cherisheth it,

Dr. Harris:  Even as Yahshua the Assembly.

Dr. Kinley:  Even as Yahshua the Assembly.

Dr. Harris:  For we are members of his body

Dr. Kinley:  For we are members of his body

Dr. Harris:  For this cause shall a man leave his father

Dr. Kinley:  For this cause, that’s way back over there in Genesis folks, for this cause or for this reason or on the account of this (STUDENT BODY LAUGH) We can use some words up here too.  How about that?  For this cause.

Dr. Harris:  Shall a man leave his father and mother.

Dr. Kinley:  Shall a man leave his father and mother.

Dr. Harris:  And shall be joined unto his wife.

Dr. Kinley:  And shall be joined unto his wife.

Dr. Harris:  And they two shall be one flesh.

Dr. Kinley:  And they two or twain shall be one flesh.

Dr. Harris:  This is a great mystery.

Dr. Kinley:  Now wait just a minute.  Just take it easy doc.  Take it easy, take it easy, take it easy, cause this is a little bitty mystery.

Student Body:  No

Dr. Kinley:  It’s a self conceited hallucination. (DR. KINLEY LAUGHS)

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  It’s a imagination.

Student Body:  No

Dr. Kinley:  Ain’t none of that.

Student Body:  No.

Dr. Kinley:  This is a Great Mystery.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Read on doc.

Dr. Harris:  But I speak concerning the Messiah and the

Dr. Kinley:  But I’m talking about the Messiah and the Assembly or the Church.  That’s a Great mystery.  Now husbands you ought to love your wives.  And it says right there up above.  Wives, see that you reverence your husband.  You’re not exempt from this thing.  Oh I tell you.  Now I, I’m through teaching.

Now, are there any questions? (THERE IS SILENCE) Now look folks.  If your pastor don’t teach like this and bring things out like this, why then you better come on back down here.  ‘I’d like to.’  He’s had all this time to bring these things out and he just brought out ____ ____.  It’s my advice to you, you come on back down here.  Now there is one more reason why I could do.  And I’ll tell what it is too.  How m…, what time is it?  Seven minutes to.  Well then alright take this then.  Isaiah 28:19, 28:9 and 10, probably 11.  Now I’m gonna try and correlate it, since nobody ain’t got no questions.  Has anybody got any …


Dr. Kinley:  Alright, read.

Dr. Harris:  Whom shall he teach knowledge.

Dr. Kinley:  Now look folks, now this is where your pastor’s involved.  Now whom shall he teach knowledge.  Now we’ve heard all about knowledge and wisdom shall be the stability of the time.  Now we wanna know now who is Yahweh gonna teach knowledge, who’s He gonna teach some things, who’s He gonna do that to?  Alright.

Dr. Harris:  And whom shall he make to understand doctrine.

Dr. Kinley:  Now who shall he make to understand doctrine.  Alright read.

Dr. Harris:  Them that are weaned from the milk.

Dr. Kinley:  Now listen here, you have to go here to the law and the prophets.  Now they were given as a schoolmaster to bring us to the Messiah.  That’s what the law and the prophets does.  Now for you to understand and to have profound knowledge of what all these types and shadows were pointing to, clearly, then you have to have some knowledge of what the meaning of it.  Remember how we talked about the sun going down, and very early in the morning, here’s a picture, very early in the morning as the, as you see the sun rising and you see the son here rising.  They went down together, they went down together there, so they’re going, they’re coming up together here.  And then we talked about it reaching its zenith in the sky, so we showed Him here ascending on a cloud.  Then the sun sets, sits down at the right hand of the Father.  Now it says whom shall He teach knowledge.  And what else?

Dr. Harris:  And whom shall He make to understand doctrine.

Dr. Kinley:  Now who’s He gonna make to understand doctrine?  Now look folks, you just might as well, just might as well admit it.  You just might as well admit it now.  If you don’t ____, pay for it now, why you can just go ahead and ____  for yourself.  Your pastor has never been able to put this thing together like this.  Read on Doc.

Dr. Harris:  Them that are weaned from the milk.

Dr. Kinley:  Them that are weaned from the milk.

Dr. Harris:  And drawn from the breast

Dr. Kinley:  And drawn from the breast.

Dr. Harris:  For precept must be upon precept

Dr. Kinley:  For precept must be upon precept.

Dr. Harris:  Precept upon precept.

Dr. Kinley:  Precept upon precept.

Dr. Harris:  Line upon line

Dr. Kinley:  Line upon, listen you got to have the blood line.  The water line.  The spirit line.  And then you got to come on back in here before it rained 40 days and 40 nights and in the wilderness 40 years.  Tabernacle stood out there 40 years.  Yahshua the Messiah was in the Garden Gethsemane one hour which is equivalent to about the 41 years which was the same time that Yahshua’s.., that Adam was in the Garden of Gethsemane.  Then you come on down here and He’s resurrected from the dead and how long did He stay here?  40 days, 40 nights.  What’s He doing?  He’s fulfilling all of this.  Now what your pastor and them out there teaching is that He was instituting.  So then he hadn’t taught him any knowledge, he don’t know nothing.

Student Body:  Right.  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  He says He’s instituting, instituting Christian water baptism, instituting Lord’s Suppers, instituting foot washing and so forth and so on.  Is that right?  I wanna know whether that’s right or not?

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  That’s what they’re doing down there in the church.  Now whom shall He teach knowledge.  Them that’s weaned, in his understanding.  Then line must be upon line.  The blood line.

Then you must come down here beside this pattern.  Now that makes me say this, just to show you.  Now we have there a convention, 75:  the Learning Tree.  Now I just had to come right, right straight on out and tell ‘em, said, ‘now look, we ain’t, as much as we’ve been teaching about this pattern.  That’s covers everything.  Teach the pattern.’  What is the pattern?  The pattern is Elohim Himself.  And then you go to the animate and inanimate things.  But get the pattern.  We don’t want nothing about no tree.  Learning tree.  When you think of a learning tree, this man right here learned something about a tree. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Is that right?

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now we’re gonna have this thing our way and that’s all there is to it.  And we’re gonna have.., we’re gonna go by this Pattern, and we know what the Pattern is; it’s Elohim, or Yahweh, Elohim Himself.  That’s what we’re gonna go by.  And then, listen here, everything in the universe, it doesn’t make any difference what it is, it points to that.  Now don’t you try to be smart.  And run on up ahead and hatch up something.  You following me on this?  Hey look buster, let me tell you something, maybe you don’t know.  I’m as smart and wise as they make ‘em.

Student Body:  Right.

Dr. Kinley:  Now I make that boast in Yahweh.  Now as a man, I’m just like you are.  Ain’t nobody can teach me nothing.  So you just might as well quit trying, trying to surprise me.  I can’t even tell my own self nothing, well I did tell myself a whole lotta things, then I had to take ‘em back, they were wrong.  I had to confess that they was wrong too.

Now I didn’t mean this to say that Henry Clifford Kinley.., I don’t mean that.  I don’t mean it that way, that I’m smart.  But I, what I do really mean is this:  Yahweh does have a purpose for everything.  He had a purpose for it raining 40 days and 40 nights, He has a purpose for him staying out there in the wilderness 40 years.  Had a purpose for the blood, the water, the spirit and 40.  The blood, the water, the spirit and then the 40.  Blood, water, spirit, 40.  It’s the blood, water, don’t block it.  But these folks haven’t learned a thing about it.  Why would you waste your time, fooling around out there.  Why would you wanna waste your time for?  Well he won’t accept it.  I don’t think anybody there is justified in paying to go to the Lake or go to Hell.  But no, some of you are too cowardly to go up and say, ‘look reverend I’m through with you.’  What do you mean you’re through with me?  ‘I mean I’m putting you down.’  ‘What are you putting me down?’  ‘Cause you don’t know nothing.’ (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) So the blind lead the blind, we’ll all fall in the ditch together.  You don’t, you don’t see what.., you don’t know nothing.  What did Yahweh make a man like He made for?  ‘I don’t know.’ (BELL RINGS) When did God create the heavens and the earth?  ‘in the beginning.’  He don’t know nothing.  He don’t know a thing.  So you just might as well come on down here and learn something.  Ain’t that right?

Student Body:  That’s right.

Dr. Kinley:  And then you could be happy.

Another thing you ought to do, the thing that Yahweh teaches you that is right, by all means you ought to be a partaker of it and put it within your life.  And then you can be happy and you will not be happy until you do do it.  And if you continue on in your stubbornness and in your rebellion you will certainly will go to the Lake.  Now that’s the way it is, folks.  Thank you for your patience.


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